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Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« on: February 12, 2018, 07:17:23 pm »
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I offer here the state of our football team's personnel, given the current official roster and our 2018 signees, and some thoughts. I listed players in terms of eligibility remaining rather than school year. Because we tend to redshirt as many players as possible, I listed freshmen in that way rather than under "first year," though of course some freshmen will play next year.

For fun, I also included trivia questions under each position group.

Tomorrow or the next day I will post defense.

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Key
  • Bold = likely starter
  • Italics = non-scholarship (walk on)

Quarterback
  • Fourth Year: Keller Chryst
  • Third Year: None
  • Second Year: KJC, Jack Richardson
  • First Year: Davis Mills
  • Redshirt: Jack West
Chryst will be resurrected with another school, but I put him here because he is still on the roster. With Tanner McKee preliminarily committed, we have high-level recruits almost every year.

Trivia: Besides Jim Plunkett and Guy Benjamin, what other Stanford QB won the Voit Trophy?

Running Back
  • Fourth Year: Bryce Love
  • Third Year: Cameron Scarlett
  • Second Year: Trevor Speights, Dorian Maddox
  • First Year: None
  • Redshirt: Justus Woods, Cameron McFarlane
Hopefully Scarlett and Speights will continue to develop to provide some depth; Scarlett did pretty well spelling Love last year. But unless Woods exceeds expectation, we’ll need some continued work in recruiting here.

Trivia: What former Stanford RB was also on the rugby team? (I’m guessing there are multiple answers to this question.)

Fullback
  • Fourth Year: None
  • Third Year: Reagan Williams, Ben Snyder
  • Second Year: None
  • First Year: Houston Heimuli, Hannes Bohning
  • Redshirt: Jay Symonds
Snyder was an in-season move from TE to FB. We tend to have a good recruiting pipeline here as one of the top-flight programs that uses its FB extensively.

Trivia: What Stanford player had touchdowns in five different seasons?

Tight End
  • Fourth Year: None
  • Third Year: None
  • Second Year: Kaden Smith, Colby Parkinson, Scooter Harrington
  • First Year: Tucker Fisk, Kyle McCombs
  • Redshirt: Tae Le
This is also a solid pipeline, though we did not recruit any high-level TEs this past year. Given our offense and that we did not redshirt Parkinson, we’ll need to recruit a high level pass-catching TE this next year.

Trivia: Stanford has had a lot of TEs play in the NFL. Among them, there have been Stanford TEs selected in the third round at some point in each of the last four decades. Can you name them?

Wide Receiver
  • Fourth Year: Trent Irwin, IBS
  • Third Year: JJAW, Donald Stewart, Jay Tyler, Sidhart Krishnamurthi
  • Second Year: Connor Wedington, Harry Schwartz
  • First Year: OSB, Cameron Buzzell
  • Redshirt: Michael Wilson, Simi Fehoko
I didn’t think IBS would come back for a fifth year, but he’s a ST contributor. I think we’re OK here in terms of pipeline. We generally have three producing WRs since we use our TEs and backs so much. Provided Wedington stays at WR, we’re good for a while, but will need another high-level WR in the next year or two. Hopefully that is Wilson or Fehoko.

Trivia: What all-conference receiver was recruited to Stanford as an all-state quarterback?

Offensive Tackle
  • Fourth Year: A.T. Hall
  • Third Year: Jack Dreyer
  • Second Year: Walker Little, Devery Hamilton, Foster Sarell, Henry Hattis
  • First Year: None
  • Redshirt: Grant Pease
This is where I am worried, Pt. 1. I know this year and next we’re good, but I think there is a greater than 50% chance that one or both of Little and Sarell go pro after 2019; if both do, things could get ugly. We need to recruit multiple tackles next year. But right now, we have four good ones. Maybe Sarell or Hamilton starts at RT and someone moves inside.

Trivia: What equine tackle played every down in three Rose Bowls for Stanford?

Offensive Guard
  • Fourth Year: Brandon Fanaika
  • Third Year: Nate HeBIG, Nick Wilson, Austin Maihen
  • Second Year: Dylan Powell
  • First Year: None
  • Redshirt: Trey Stratford
This is where I am worried, Pt. 2. Again, we are good here this year, though next year will be dicey if HeBIG declares, which I put at 50/50 at this point; he goes if named AA. If he does, who plays guard in 2019? Powell or Maihen? I'm somewhat worried about our guard play for 2019, but I’m really worried about our interior line play after 2019. Another reason we may get a position switch from tackle (Stratford was a center in HS, is now listed as “Guard/Tackle”). For 2018: Fanaika may still decide to retire. In the end, I am not sure he starts, even if he does stay. Wilson could start, and/or we may get a position switch: Hamilton or Hall. But, again, we need to recruit multiple guards this next year.

Trivia: What Stanford all-American guard played linebacker in the NFL?

Center
  • Fourth Year: Jesse Burkett
  • Third Year: Brian Chaffin
  • Second Year: None
  • First Year: Drew Dalman
  • Redshirt: None
Depends on how Dalman develops. Three centers on the roster is good, but our centers are critical, making key protection identifications and audibles. Freshman center Stratford was recruited to play guard, perhaps because we already have three. But I would guess that we would have to get one next year.

Trivia: On October 6, 1979, Stanford blocked a UCLA FG attempt with a little over a minute remaining in a tie game. Elway, a freshman, drove Stanford the length of the field and Stanford kicked a game winning FG as time expired. Who was the center that snapped the ball on that field goal?
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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 08:07:03 pm »
1 Bobby Garrett, Don Bunce
2 Bill Tarr
3 Guy Benjamin
4 Chris Dressel, Greg Baty, Smith, Zach Ertz
5 Gene Washington
6 Bob "Horse"Reynolds
7 Jack Chappell
8 Mike Teevus

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 08:14:10 pm »
Edit, the center had to be John Macaulay.

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 08:32:38 pm »
Rugby RB - JJ Lasley. If you know JJ, he looks ready now to go back out on the football field or the rugby pitch.
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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 08:46:13 pm »
Chapple played in the days of two way players but was a great LBer at Stanford and with the 49ers. He died very young

Gene Washington one of several. But my first thought

Fun trivia but I can’t beat Phogge

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 08:52:04 pm »
Langdude,
This is fantastic! Thank you for putting this together.

I am looking forward to seeing the defense, but with some concern and even dread.

Ed

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 10:22:18 pm »
Langdude, agreed! Thank you for putting this together!

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 11:35:45 pm »
Stratford played LT this past season. I doubt he’s ever taken a snap in a game.

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 06:55:29 am »
Third round tight ends: Dressel, Clark, Smith, Hooper.

Many football players have also played on the rugby team but J.J. Lasley made it to the US National team.

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 08:06:15 am »
Great job!

Oviously the RS are dependent on them actually redshirting; some may play snaps. Might be better to organize by the number of years of eligibility remaining (which you largely have done by doing away with the RS Senior, RS Junior, and RS sophomore designations).

Here's an assessment of needs for the class of 2019 (numbers are bare minimum and recommended):
QB: 1/1 - if 2014 taught us anything it's that we need a QB in every class
RB: 1/2 (can take two given that we took 0 in 2017)
FB: 0/1 two fullbacks every three years is fine
TE: 1/2 (should take two given that we didn't take any in 2018)
WR: 1/2 (decent shape here since we have two in last year's class)
OT: 2/3 (I suppose we could survive with 2 if we also take 2 next year, but yuck)
OG: 2/3 (two is a bare minimum; three would be better)
OC: 1/2 (we need two over the next two years)

As surmised, we have major needs in the offensive line.  We will not be in good shape unless we can pick up a full line (5 OL this year), and would be better with 6 or 7 linemen, given the two year gap.

BC

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 08:25:45 am »
There might be some flexibility between FB and TE to allow for H-Back types (Hewitt being an obvious recent example and Symonds being touted that way this year)

Great job!

Oviously the RS are dependent on them actually redshirting; some may play snaps. Might be better to organize by the number of years of eligibility remaining (which you largely have done by doing away with the RS Senior, RS Junior, and RS sophomore designations).

Here's an assessment of needs for the class of 2019 (numbers are bare minimum and recommended):
QB: 1/1 - if 2014 taught us anything it's that we need a QB in every class
RB: 1/2 (can take two given that we took 0 in 2017)
FB: 0/1 two fullbacks every three years is fine
TE: 1/2 (should take two given that we didn't take any in 2018)
WR: 1/2 (decent shape here since we have two in last year's class)
OT: 2/3 (I suppose we could survive with 2 if we also take 2 next year, but yuck)
OG: 2/3 (two is a bare minimum; three would be better)
OC: 1/2 (we need two over the next two years)

As surmised, we have major needs in the offensive line.  We will not be in good shape unless we can pick up a full line (5 OL this year), and would be better with 6 or 7 linemen, given the two year gap.

BC

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 08:48:54 am »
Great job!

Oviously the RS are dependent on them actually redshirting; some may play snaps. Might be better to organize by the number of years of eligibility remaining (which you largely have done by doing away with the RS Senior, RS Junior, and RS sophomore designations).

Here's an assessment of needs for the class of 2019 (numbers are bare minimum and recommended):
QB: 1/1 - if 2014 taught us anything it's that we need a QB in every class
RB: 1/2 (can take two given that we took 0 in 2017)
FB: 0/1 two fullbacks every three years is fine
TE: 1/2 (should take two given that we didn't take any in 2018)
WR: 1/2 (decent shape here since we have two in last year's class)
OT: 2/3 (I suppose we could survive with 2 if we also take 2 next year, but yuck)
OG: 2/3 (two is a bare minimum; three would be better)
OC: 1/2 (we need two over the next two years)

As surmised, we have major needs in the offensive line.  We will not be in good shape unless we can pick up a full line (5 OL this year), and would be better with 6 or 7 linemen, given the two year gap.

BC

so that's 16 recommended on offense, what about the defense :)
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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 09:03:54 am »
Great job!

Oviously the RS are dependent on them actually redshirting; some may play snaps. Might be better to organize by the number of years of eligibility remaining (which you largely have done by doing away with the RS Senior, RS Junior, and RS sophomore designations).

Here's an assessment of needs for the class of 2019 (numbers are bare minimum and recommended):
QB: 1/1 - if 2014 taught us anything it's that we need a QB in every class
RB: 1/2 (can take two given that we took 0 in 2017)
FB: 0/1 two fullbacks every three years is fine
TE: 1/2 (should take two given that we didn't take any in 2018)
WR: 1/2 (decent shape here since we have two in last year's class)
OT: 2/3 (I suppose we could survive with 2 if we also take 2 next year, but yuck)
OG: 2/3 (two is a bare minimum; three would be better)
OC: 1/2 (we need two over the next two years)

As surmised, we have major needs in the offensive line.  We will not be in good shape unless we can pick up a full line (5 OL this year), and would be better with 6 or 7 linemen, given the two year gap.

BC

so that's 16 recommended on offense, what about the defense :)

We can get those in free agency... :P
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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2018, 10:46:24 am »
Stratford played LT this past season. I doubt he’s ever taken a snap in a game.

Interesting. But he is listed on 247 as a center recruit. He is listed on the roster as "guard/tackle." I'm putting him at guard for now as that seems to be our greater dearth. We'll see.

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Re: Roster Pipeline 2018: Offense
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2018, 10:49:23 am »
Great job!

Oviously the RS are dependent on them actually redshirting; some may play snaps. Might be better to organize by the number of years of eligibility remaining (which you largely have done by doing away with the RS Senior, RS Junior, and RS sophomore designations).

Thanks, BC.

I actually originally had both FR and RS FR under "first year." But, given that Shaw spreads out recruiting over five seasons rather than for (i.e., he redshirts almost the entire freshman class), I think this is a better way to look at our recruiting pipeline. Though, of course, some true freshmen will play. But that deliberation has not yet been made, at least not wholly.

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