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WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - 81alum - 11-13-2019

Preview:

Northern Colorado is a young team coached by Jenny Huth who is in her 2nd year after serving as an assistant coach at UCLA. She will know all about Stanford. Last year in her first year they went 21-11 and came in 2nd in the Big Sky conference. This year they are 0-2, having lost to USF at home 83-90, and to Colorado State 58-75. Their best player is a 5'7" junior guard Chapman who scores 19ppg, and so far has gone 8/19 from three point range. She shoots better from 3 than from inside. But like Stanford, a lot of freshmen are getting minutes. This will be their first game away from Colorado, they are inexperienced and have been losing at home. This has the potential to be another Eastern Washington, except that their coach probably knows a few tricks to help to keep them competitive. They did play USF close.

Overview:

Our defense blanketed Northern Colorado's top perimeter player, holding her to 1/12 shooting, and we got into the passing lanes with our length and quickness and forced 19 turnovers. Meanwhile it was Lacie Hull's turn to have a career night with 19 points, and we kept increasing the lead to the end.

Before the Game:

Tempie talked to the fans at the chalktalk and there were several important tidbits of news. She said she did not know what might be done with the 4th scholarship available after we announced 3 recruits for next year--whether we would have a late addition or carry it over. Notably she did not volunteer any information about a redshirt for Anna Wilson, although that specific question was not put to her. She had no timetable for Dodson's return, and mentioned that Jump was out tonight with a minor practice injury. Someone else mentioned she had a broken nose but I did not see that. Tempie noted that it was terrifically fun to coach this year, and let us know that Jones would be starting--no one is doing badly--the coaches are just trying out lots of different combinations.

Game Analysis:

It has been a few years since we fans regularly witnessed blowouts like this. It is a mark of our talent level and our depth that we can expand 20 point leads to 30 to 40 to 50, while playing 12.

But even in a blowout certain things are becoming clear. Lexie and Lacie are judged by Tara to be our best perimeter defenders. They were the two who were most often assigned to guard Chapman--the three point shooting star of Northern Colorado--and they held her to 1/11.

Tara let our defense get very much more aggressive that we are used to seeing it--getting into passing lanes and creating turnovers and steals. She realizes that against certain opponents we have the quickness and speed to make it work. In the past we played much more conservative defense. Perhaps this is just a function of who we were playing tonight--but it was startling to see in a Stanford team.

We ran the Princeton to perfection and scored most of our points on cuts to the basket. Three point shooting was not that big a factor--we made only 4 treys, and had a whopping 58 points in the paint. We ran them ragged.

Our weakest link--both offensively and defensively--is post play. This is probably to be expected with Smith graduated, Dodson injured, and Fingall not at 100%. While N Colorado did not score prolifically, they got a number of interior post points that a more experienced defense would not have permitted. On offense, it seems to me that Jones and Belibi have good moves and instincts under the basket but neither Prechtel nor Fingall nor Jerome seemed to have the killer instinct to twist and turn and put the ball in the basket reliably from in close. Jerome and Prechtel both have back to the basket moves, but in the traffic and confusion it was Belibi who seems reliable from inside. As the season wears on, I think we will have to rely on Belibi and Jones to score inside--and so they had better become competent inside defenders. Could one of them guard Hebard? Dodson, when she gets healthy, might have an important defensive role on this team.

Performances:

This was probably Lacie's best day in a Cardinal uniform. Not only did she play lock-down defense on the other team's best player, she led scoring with 22 on 8/11 shooting, not to mention a loaded up stat line in other ways too.

Haley Jones started and began to look a lot more like the nation's top recruit than she has in the earlier games. She had 11 points in 20 minutes, but also had 3 assists--a couple of which were spectacular. She had a couple of spectacular turnovers trying to get even more assists--but she was a lot of fun to watch play.

Carrington looked like a woman among girls for the mere 10 minutes that Tara played her. She nabbed 11 points on 5/6 shooting.

Lots of others had good games, including Lexie Hull, Belibi, and even Estella Moschkau. Brown and Wilson ran point competently, so did Williams who was 2/5. No one played more than 22 minutes so lots of players got lots of opportunity.

Conclusion:

Gonzaga may not be the same Gonzaga that beat us a year ago, but they will be a more athletic and talented team than Northern Colorado and so we should have a better test on Sunday. So far I have seen nothing that makes me think we are any closer to narrowing down a starting rotation. Just when Lacie was beginning to fade from memory she has a career game, and now Haley Jones is beginning to come on. I can see a rotation of 9-10 at this point. Maybe that is as narrow as it will go.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - BostonCard - 11-13-2019

I know we have a bunch of challenging preseason games and obviously the conference schedule has some brutal games on it...

But I wonder if scheduling cupcakes where there is this much of a talent disparity is useful. I wonder if beatable opponents that are a bit more than scrimmage quality might not do more for preparation than playing the little sisters of the poor. Like wouldn’t playing teams in the 50-100 range, wouldn’t let the team work on things they need to work on, but also provide more than token resistance to doing what we want to do.

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - JJJ - 11-13-2019

Available on Stanford live stream but sadly, not on my DVR. Hope to be done with work before the game ends.

https://pac-12.com/stanford/schedule/network/live-stream/20191113-20191213

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - 81alum - 11-14-2019

(11-13-2019, 10:29 AM)BostonCard Wrote: I know we have a bunch of challenging preseason games and obviously the conference schedule has some brutal games on it...

But I wonder if scheduling cupcakes where there is this much of a talent disparity is useful. I wonder if beatable opponents that are a bit more than scrimmage quality might not do more for preparation than playing the little sisters of the poor. Like wouldn’t playing teams in the 50-100 range, wouldn’t let the team work on things they need to work on, but also provide more than token resistance to doing what we want to do.

BC

Northern Colorado would not have looked like quite such a cupcake based on last season's record--I imagine they are pretty disappointed in the way they started. USF did give us an appropriate challenge, though, and Northern Colorado stayed close to USF so maybe tonight will be more competitive than it seems. And I think it is wise to play some games which give our frosh a chance to get a lot of minutes as they adjust to the college level.

I also think that sometimes they schedule to get experience against some unique aspect of a team--don't know if that is the case tonight. But they might schedule a team just to get experience playing against the Princeton, or just to work on perimeter defense, or just to test our zone offense, etc. Maybe Northern Colorado has some characteristic we want to practice against.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - StanFanFam13 - 11-14-2019

Haley Jones holding her own as a starter, but my standout so far is Anna Wilson. Love seeing how smart and aggressive her play has gotten! Also great to see Lacie back in her groove offensively and keeping pace with her sister.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - CompSci87 - 11-14-2019

43-14 and Northern Colorado is looking demoralized.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - 2006alum - 11-14-2019

Our defense is cooking like whoa and it's generating so many transition offense opportunities. It's kind of crazy how much all of our players are pushing the tempo on both defense AND offense - everyone can pass seamlessly to everyone, and everyone can score off those passes. There's just so much versatility - have we ever had such a versatile lineup before?

Also: loving all these old-school bounce passes in transition.

ETA: Uh-oh. Jump broke her nose in practice. Time for the Coffee zorro mask?

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - CompSci87 - 11-14-2019

I was wondering why Jump is out. Thanks. Yeah, I guess Alyssa will be passing the mask on to her. (Well, seriously, she'll get her own made to fit.)

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Northern Colorado 7pm Thursday - BostonCard - 11-14-2019

90-36 final. We held them to 3 points in the final quarter.

I think the name for that is “capitulation”

Gonzaga is next, which should be a better test.

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - 81alum - 11-14-2019

Write-up is posted at the top. Another fine game!

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - Baez87 - 11-15-2019

GoStanford.com has a new feature called GameDay, which was referenced on the FBC today. It is a welcomed addition to the Cardboard, FBC, and the usual WBB coverage on GoStanford. GameDay provides a comprehensive set of game-day scheduling, player profiles, video clips of key plays, and a host of other team and game references. It is professionally done and clearly a result of considerable labor. Let’s hope that this service can continue throughout the season. Someone is directing serious resources to provide this service.
https://admin.gostanford.com/gameday/women-s-basketball-vs-northern-colorado/wbball/1198/

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - M T - 11-15-2019

Regarding Gameday. I guess you haven't seen that at other schools (for instance, Texas). Nothing special for any school, and apparently nothing original.

Looking at what they have for last night's game (still up, nothing yet for Sunday's game), nothing seemed to be original content.
Noteables appears to be a (very small) subset of what was always in the press release for each game. The schools always did this; I will be disappointed if Gameday replaces the much fuller information that was in the press releases. Everything else is clearly automated, driven off other info the schools already present (roster, schedule, record, stats)

Hmmm... I wonder if Gameday is the cause of Stanford presenting only limited statistics. (They give only one page of stats currently; nothing at all like the several pages of stats we've had in previous years.) Whatever the reason, Boo!

A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT: Stanford Athletics continues to snub Stanford's KZSU. (["[KZSU] is owned by the Board of Trustees of Stanford University and is governed by a Board of Directors appointed by the President.") Not only do Stanford schedules (nor this Gameday) not list KZSU radio coverage with WBB, MBB, and FB, it doesn't list KZSU under WVB where there is no commercial radio covering it. (I didn't check the other sports KZSU covers.)

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - Viking_Guy - 11-15-2019

M T--

I noticed that several years ago. I'm wondering if it's part of the Pac-12 media deals, in which case it's another reason to dislike them.

Having done color commentary at a women's basketball game when I was one of about 50 people in attendance (Tara's first year), the lack of recognition, let alone support, is disappointing.

They also used to have KZSU commentators on soccer matches, fwiw.

VG

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - BobK - 11-15-2019

Kevin Danna did the WBB last night. Jimmy Garcia will tonight. You can listen if you wish

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - CompSci87 - 11-15-2019

(11-15-2019, 04:48 PM)BobK Wrote: Kevin Danna did the WBB last night. Jimmy Garcia will tonight. You can listen if you wish

That's an athletic department webcast, not KZSU radio, though. It's high quality but of course not done by students.

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - BobK - 11-16-2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/jimmyjg12/status/1195517825462333445

Seems like KZSU

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - WBB fan - 11-16-2019

(11-15-2019, 10:50 AM)Baez87 Wrote: GoStanford.com has a new feature called GameDay, which was referenced on the FBC today. It is a welcomed addition to the Cardboard, FBC, and the usual WBB coverage on GoStanford. GameDay provides a comprehensive set of game-day scheduling, player profiles, video clips of key plays, and a host of other team and game references. It is professionally done and clearly a result of considerable labor. Let’s hope that this service can continue throughout the season. Someone is directing serious resources to provide this service.
https://admin.gostanford.com/gameday/women-s-basketball-vs-northern-colorado/wbball/1198/

I find myself wondering if the dreadful attendance for a spectacular team is somehow linked to the drop-off in coach/player involvement with fans as well as the what, for me, is the deterioration in the Stanford women's BB site. This trend to go to a packaged product and adopt it, with its totally non-intuitive way to get information is not a good thing. We used to have a media guide. Then it went to on-line version only, but at least it was there and available. Now we don't even have that, with all the history easily available. Who's making these decisions to drop so much? Or is there something out there that's available that I've not found? If so, it's hard to find on the Stanford info sites, since I search pretty diligently. My solution has been to create my own history stats, update it from what I can unearth, and take it to the game with me. As for "Gameday," I'm not a fan of that.

And for me, another decision that Stanford has made that is a mistake -- not to have printed rosters available at games. Yes, it saves paper, and that's the reason given. You can just get it on your phone, they say. True, but I don't want to look at a tiny screen while I'm trying to watch a game. So I wind up printing out rosters and opponent stats at home before the game and taking them with me. Does this save paper? Nope. It just saves Stanford's paper. Stanford should be working to make the games welcoming, easy to come to an enjoy, rather than taking the easy way out for themselves.

I also still long for the days decades ago when the Fast Break Club was a real thing, with after game meetings after every game, players came out and talked to, with, fans, pre-season events with fans. . . And so on. The team that's doing the FBC website is doing a terrific job, but it can't replace the live interaction we used to have, that made fans feel really involved and encouraged to bring in new fans. I felt a part of things then, don't now, though I still love the team and never miss a game. I suspect that both Oregon and Oregon State have an approach to fans that is more like what we used to have, though I really don't know if that's the case -- they certainly have better attendance. For me, there's just a different atmosphere now than there was in the late 80s, early 90s, and it makes a difference. Those were the days when the stands were often full. Certainly no the case today.

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - Griffins78 - 11-16-2019

(11-16-2019, 11:21 AM)JoanBoothe Wrote: I suspect that both Oregon and Oregon State have an approach to fans that is more like what we used to have, though I really don't know if that's the case -- they certainly have better attendance. For me, there's just a different atmosphere now than there was in the late 80s, early 90s, and it makes a difference. Those were the days when the stands were often full. Certainly no the case today

I would like to see us rebuild that kind of following and feeling again too. How do we get started?

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - 76lsjumb - 11-16-2019

(11-16-2019, 01:03 PM)Griffins78 Wrote:
(11-16-2019, 11:21 AM)JoanBoothe Wrote: I suspect that both Oregon and Oregon State have an approach to fans that is more like what we used to have, though I really don't know if that's the case -- they certainly have better attendance. For me, there's just a different atmosphere now than there was in the late 80s, early 90s, and it makes a difference. Those were the days when the stands were often full. Certainly no the case today
I would like to see us rebuild that kind of following and feeling again too. How do we get started?

Simple. Win a National Championship.

RE: WBB: Stanford 90 Northern Colorado 36 - BobK - 11-16-2019

Somehow I don’t think either Oregon or Oregon State has won a national championship so that’s not how they are doing it