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Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-01-2014
I did not see the original Hulk thread, but didn't see my kind of music in the BC thread. Here is some different stuff, from my daughter's collection. She is a trumpet player, as is readily apparent:
Red Clay by Freddie Hubbard. Her favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA1ZelIbUfI
Hummel's Trumpet Concerto by Tine Helseth.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR8H8CSojis
52 minutes of Wynton Marsalis with an unbelievable combo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABM6VphQmJk
Flight of the Bumblebee by Canadian Brass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZO5KTJTwhE&list=PLAAB718A0CCE24C76&feature=c4-overview-vl
Night in Tunisia by akiddoc jr. Includes 2 choruses of improvisation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDk3VlmJG6s
Re: Another music thread - PrinceLightfoot - 03-01-2014
I have no clue what is in short supply on campus right now or if instrument choice would help in a favorable admissions decision, but I would say whatever instrument she enjoys playing - LSJUMB will take any instrument. ;)
I began learning on an organ (the poor man's piano - eventually became proficient but not expert) at age 5, moved to Trombone (the slide bothered me when I was young because I could not reach 5th position notes), moved to Baritone (not exciting enough for me), and settled in on Trumpet since my 6th grade band only had one at the time. I LOVED IT and it became one of my passions which I enjoyed professionally for 14 years. It is used in a wide variety of music - classical, jazz, polka, mariachi, etc. not to mention having most of the melody lines in the LSJUMB.
A great base for any instrument in my opinion is the piano. No other instrument leads a student of music to a clearer understanding of how chords and scales work together except possibly classical guitar or harp. At that point, learning other instruments only becomes about muscle memory since the knowledge of music already has its foundation.
Re: Another music thread - SUBuddha - 03-01-2014
Not to hijack, Akiddoc you have some great taste. I have listened to many of the songs others have posted, and much of it is great. I am afraid I am a bit of a musical troglodyte :( compared to many on this board. Then again, I was probably the only metal head in my dorm freshman year, so that makes sense. Much of my music collection consists of Heavy Metal (not hair metal though I have some of that too), Classic Rock, Grunge, and rap from the late 80's through early 2000's. There are other genres I listen to often, but those are really my go to materials when I just want to listen. My 5yo daughter has already learned to "throw up the horns" and was head banging to ACDC (she loves Thunder Struck) and Metallica's Master of Puppets with me in the car this morning.
Here is, perhaps, one of my all time favorite songs to listen to to get in the mood for my evening job.
http://youtu.be/pB6Fa_pJqRQ
A little Electronic/industrial
http://youtu.be/O5e4aY-_72g
Finally, one from freshman year I think.
http://youtu.be/N5BkZsXmJIQ
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-01-2014
(03-01-2014, 05:52 AM)Publius link Wrote:I'm starting to think about what instrument my daughter should play. My highest priority is maximizing her probability of getting into the world's greatest university. So what kind of musicians are in short supply at the Stanford Orchestra? Ideally it would also be band instrument so she could also be in the LSJUMB. Any thoughts out there?
She should play the instrument she wants to play. If she likes music. No one sticks with an instrument and maximizes their potential unless they love what they are doing. My daughter started on violin at age 6. She loved it but was average. She wanted to try more instruments, then had to decide between trumpet and flute at 8 years old when lessons were offered at her school. She was born with a congenital anomaly of the right hand, and could not spread her fingers far enough on the flute, so trumpet it was. She is a little limited by her hand issue when fingering the trumpet, but she works around it. She refused to write about the hand issue on her college application, but probably should have.
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-01-2014
(03-01-2014, 08:58 AM)PrinceLightfoot link Wrote:I have no clue what is in short supply on campus right now or if instrument choice would help in a favorable admissions decision, but I would say whatever instrument she enjoys playing - LSJUMB will take any instrument. ;)
I began learning on an organ (the poor man's piano - eventually became proficient but not expert) at age 5, moved to Trombone (the slide bothered me when I was young because I could not reach 5th position notes), moved to Baritone (not exciting enough for me), and settled in on Trumpet since my 6th grade band only had one at the time. I LOVED IT and it became one of my passions which I enjoyed professionally for 14 years. It is used in a wide variety of music - classical, jazz, polka, mariachi, etc. not to mention having most of the melody lines in the LSJUMB.
A great base for any instrument in my opinion is the piano. No other instrument leads a student of music to a clearer understanding of how chords and scales work together except possibly classical guitar or harp. At that point, learning other instruments only becomes about muscle memory since the knowledge of music already has its foundation.
I definitely need to hear more about this trumpet career. Hard to go on to a career in brass unless you can devote a brobdingnagian amount of time to practice and performance.
My daughter is semi-serious, but wants to have fun, not make a living at it. She did not put in the work required to get to conservatory level, but that was not her interest and she preferred to get good grades. The kids who are better in NorCal practice 3 to 4 hours a day. I don't know if you noticed that she uses a Harrison wedge mouthpiece from Canada. She had a lesson from Brandon Ridenour of Canadian Brass who had her try it (the guy on the far left in the bumble bee video). New technology. Wynton thought it was really odd when she got a lesson from him, but he did not tell her to change.
Re: Another music thread - BostonCard - 03-01-2014
Thank you akiddoc! I'm a big fan of jazz, so I definitely appreciated the links, especially the Wynton Marsalis, which is truly awesome. Surprised there was no Louis Armstrong in there.
WRT "Flight of the Bumblebees", the coolest rendition I've heard was by Lang Lang with the SF symphony, on an iPad!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhRSHvji140
By the way, in the other thread, I posted a video of Hiromi Uehara on the piano:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JfKY0K_NQk
Not trumpet, but hopefully you can appreciate her passion as she plays.
BC
Re: Another music thread - PrinceLightfoot - 03-01-2014
(03-01-2014, 03:08 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:I definitely need to hear more about this trumpet career. Hard to go on to a career in brass unless you can devote a brobdingnagian amount of time to practice and performance.
My daughter is semi-serious, but wants to have fun, not make a living at it. She did not put in the work required to get to conservatory level, but that was not her interest and she preferred to get good grades. The kids who are better in NorCal practice 3 to 4 hours a day. I don't know if you noticed that she uses a Harrison wedge mouthpiece from Canada. She had a lesson from Brandon Ridenour of Canadian Brass who had her try it (the guy on the far left in the bumble bee video). New technology. Wynton thought it was really odd when she got a lesson from him, but he did not tell her to change.
It sounds like she is receiving excellent instruction from some of the best available! Well done. She has a beautiful tone and good articulation for this style of blues. How long has she been playing?
The time commitment involved to reach certain levels at first is difficult, but once the muscle memory kicks in, less time is required to maintain. For example, practicing double or triple tonguing articulation exercises (there's a softball for commentary) for a few hours a day later becomes a half hour to an hour devotion. Slurring, long tones, and playing low-register notes must be a staple of daily exercises and cannot be avoided. Three to four hours at first is about right; it is a requirement of proficiency and muscle memory - using that really cool Harrison wedge mouthpiece should help on the endurance end because the width of the rim will provide more "cushion" instead of the pinching one can feel on thinner rims after hours of playing. I used a Rudy Muck mouthpiece because of the cushion and its ability to stabilize aggressive playing styles. Does Wynton still use a Monette mouthpiece these days?
Keeping the chops up at a professional level is not easy, but once one begins to gig more heavily, performance time can substitute for some practice time. If your daughter wants to perform even as a hobby, she'll have to become used to playing in front of others which can be unnerving at first. It doesn't matter what style of music; learning to open up one's sound in public is something that has to be learned on stage. I didn't even notice the audience after a few years...it was all about enjoying the production with my band.
I began gigging at age 15 and even left Stanford for 4 years after my sophomore year to fulfill my desire to perform with some excellent musicians full-time (6-8 hours practicing most days of the week). After returning to finish my degree, performing returned to hobby status but I still gigged heavily on the weekends (6-10 hours Saturdays, 4-5 hours Sundays) for a few more years. Fun times!
Re: Another music thread - PrinceLightfoot - 03-01-2014
For those wondering what double tongue articulation sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zXx0ReqOOI
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-01-2014
(03-01-2014, 09:28 PM)PrinceLightfoot link Wrote:[quote author=akiddoc link=topic=9612.msg84722#msg84722 date=1393711724]
I definitely need to hear more about this trumpet career. Hard to go on to a career in brass unless you can devote a brobdingnagian amount of time to practice and performance.
My daughter is semi-serious, but wants to have fun, not make a living at it. She did not put in the work required to get to conservatory level, but that was not her interest and she preferred to get good grades. The kids who are better in NorCal practice 3 to 4 hours a day. I don't know if you noticed that she uses a Harrison wedge mouthpiece from Canada. She had a lesson from Brandon Ridenour of Canadian Brass who had her try it (the guy on the far left in the bumble bee video). New technology. Wynton thought it was really odd when she got a lesson from him, but he did not tell her to change.
It sounds like she is receiving excellent instruction from some of the best available! Well done. She has a beautiful tone and good articulation for this style of blues. How long has she been playing?
The time commitment involved to reach certain levels at first is difficult, but once the muscle memory kicks in, less time is required to maintain. For example, practicing double or triple tonguing articulation exercises (there's a softball for commentary) for a few hours a day later becomes a half hour to an hour devotion. Slurring, long tones, and playing low-register notes must be a staple of daily exercises and cannot be avoided. Three to four hours at first is about right; it is a requirement of proficiency and muscle memory - using that really cool Harrison wedge mouthpiece should help on the endurance end because the width of the rim will provide more "cushion" instead of the pinching one can feel on thinner rims after hours of playing. I used a Rudy Muck mouthpiece because of the cushion and its ability to stabilize aggressive playing styles. Does Wynton still use a Monette mouthpiece these days?
Keeping the chops up at a professional level is not easy, but once one begins to gig more heavily, performance time can substitute for some practice time. If your daughter wants to perform even as a hobby, she'll have to become used to playing in front of others which can be unnerving at first. It doesn't matter what style of music; learning to open up one's sound in public is something that has to be learned on stage. I didn't even notice the audience after a few years...it was all about enjoying the production with my band.
I began gigging at age 15 and even left Stanford for 4 years after my sophomore year to fulfill my desire to perform with some excellent musicians full-time (6-8 hours practicing most days of the week). After returning to finish my degree, performing returned to hobby status but I still gigged heavily on the weekends (6-10 hours Saturdays, 4-5 hours Sundays) for a few more years. Fun times!
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Do you still play?
Yes, Wynton is still using a Monette.
She has been playing since she was 8. She is now 17. 9 1/2 years. She improves quite a bit every summer, when she actually puts in some time. She went to Interlochen the last 2 summers, which forced her to play a lot. She plays jazz primarily, although she does have both classical and jazz instructors. Working on Hummel now. The Wynton and Ridenour lessons were one time things, of course. No one gets them full time. I do have Wynton's cell number, though....
It was difficult to get her to play well for that video, which was actually her college arts supplement. She gets nervous when she is the center of attention and tightens her throat - a real no-no.
She is really good on the flugelhorn. Probably better than on the trumpet.
Re: Another music thread - PrinceLightfoot - 03-02-2014
(03-01-2014, 10:57 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:Do you still play?
Yes, Wynton is still using a Monette.
She has been playing since she was 8. She is now 17. 9 1/2 years. She improves quite a bit every summer, when she actually puts in some time. She went to Interlochen the last 2 summers, which forced her to play a lot. She plays jazz primarily, although she does have both classical and jazz instructors. Working on Hummel now. The Wynton and Ridenour lessons were one time things, of course. No one gets them full time. I do have Wynton's cell number, though....
It was difficult to get her to play well for that video, which was actually her college arts supplement. She gets nervous when she is the center of attention and tightens her throat - a real no-no.
She is really good on the flugelhorn. Probably better than on the trumpet.
I couldn't tell that she was nervous. She played very well! The nerves will eventually go away the more she is exposed to center stage.
I haven't performed in almost 10 years, but I still pop in a CD or pull up YouTube and play along from time to time. My endurance allows me to enjoy it for maybe an hour. The decision to stop playing wasn't difficult. I never wanted to become a full-time musician...that life is hard with its minimal, unstable income and unpredictable schedules. It made it extremely difficult to maintain relationships, too. What a relief it was to be able to relax on the weekend and enjoy a date on a Saturday night after a week of work at the office.
Re: Another music thread - Spiny_Norman - 03-03-2014
(03-01-2014, 10:57 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:She has been playing since she was 8. She is now 17. 9 1/2 years. She improves quite a bit every summer, when she actually puts in some time. She went to Interlochen the last 2 summers, which forced her to play a lot. She plays jazz primarily, although she does have both classical and jazz instructors. Working on Hummel now. The Wynton and Ridenour lessons were one time things, of course. No one gets them full time. I do have Wynton's cell number, though....
It was difficult to get her to play well for that video, which was actually her college arts supplement. She gets nervous when she is the center of attention and tightens her throat - a real no-no.
I really enjoyed listening to akiddoc jr. Thanks for posting that video, Proud Papa. Are you fans of Trombone Shorty as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzByl_lUOXQ
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-04-2014
Trombone Shorty is famous for his circular breathing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_breathing, which is fun. He is a Wynton protege, by the way. He isn't one of the highest level players but he puts on a good show.
Re: Another music thread - CTcard - 03-04-2014
(03-01-2014, 02:27 AM)akiddoc link Wrote:Â
Flight of the Bumblebee by Canadian Brass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZO5KTJTwhE&list=PLAAB718A0CCE24C76&feature=c4-overview-vl
My first thought was - wow, the Canadian Brass are sure looking young there.
That was a 2012 recording, with new members outside of Charles Dallenbach, the Tuba player. He was the founder of the Candian Brass (with Gene Watts - trombone). Dallenbach is around 69 now, so about 67 in that video. Still going pretty strong.
Of course he used to be featured doing Flight of the Bumblebee himself on tuba - which is much harder than on trumpet.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OO7sityUwE
Though my favorite virtuso/trick tuba performer was Roger Bobo, once upon a time of the LA Symphony now mostly retired I think. A video from Johnny Carson's tonight show inspired what was once upon a time my audition piece (only the first part).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJkyi0BKPk
P.S.
After years of lurking, this is my first post here. A chance to post about tubas knocked me over the edge.
I guess I will go over to the "Welcome new users" post and write something about myself.
P.P.S. - hope my links are working. That may take some adjusting.
Re: Another music thread - terry - 03-04-2014
Welcome, CTcard!
Yesterday was Doc Watson's birthday... - CowboyIndian - 03-04-2014
...but he's still giving us presents. Thanks for this one, Doc...my favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-1G6Wif8s&feature=kp
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-04-2014
Saw Canadian Brass about a year ago. Dallenbach still going strong.
The most pertinent question I have for CTCard: Could you play Carnival of Venice? Now or in the past? (CT was in the Stanford orchestra and LSJUMB playing .... the tuba).
More Trombone Shorty, at age 13, with Wynton's band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YUi3UhEPQ
Re: Another music thread - akiddoc - 03-04-2014
Saw Canadian Brass about a year ago. Dallenbach still going strong.
The most pertinent question I have for CTCard: Could you play Carnival of Venice? Now or in the past? (CT was in the Stanford orchestra and LSJUMB playing .... the tuba).
More Trombone Shorty, at age 13, with Wynton's band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YUi3UhEPQ
Re: Another music thread - CTcard - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 03:26 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:The most pertinent question I have for CTCard: Could you play Carnival of Venice? Now or in the past?
The answer is "in the past". At least the first section. I used it as an audition piece for a while.
Most certainly not now. Basically quit playing when I got married.
Re: Another music thread - CTcard - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 03:26 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:The most pertinent question I have for CTCard: Could you play Carnival of Venice? Now or in the past?
The answer is "in the past". At least the first section. I used it as an audition piece for a while.
Most certainly not now. Basically quit playing when I got married.
Re: Another music thread - TreeWeird - 03-04-2014
Perhaps join the Temple City Kazoo Orchestra. I bought this album at the Stanford Bookstore back in the day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXcBs9TMEM