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RE: SF Giants 2025 - Giants - 04-15-2025

(04-15-2025, 09:48 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Okay, who had the Giants at 12 and 4, and still a game and a half out of first place in the west at this point. . . .

I had SF at 12-4, in third place, four games behind the undefeated Padres and Dodgers ; )

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-15-2025

(04-15-2025, 09:48 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Okay, who had the Giants at 12 and 4, and still a game and a half out of first place in the west at this point. . . .

Not me. I didn't think the Padres would be doing so well, though they are 11-0 at home and 3-3 on the road. I thought the Giants would be 8-8, hoped for 9-7, would have been ecstatic at 10-6. And I would have been particularly pleased if you'd told me they would go 8-2 on the road and 10-4 against teams over .500. I frankly wouldn't have believed it if you told me they would have the second-best record in MLB, and the third best run differential at +29 behind the Padres (+36) and the Cubs (+37).

I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd told me the Dodgers would be 12-6 and in 4th place in MLB...but I would have been shocked if you'd told me their run differential was a mere +2.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-24-2025

Fun facts about the Giants and the 2025 season:

1. Giants have improved their OPS+ rating to 13th in MLB (up from 17th), which has led to their #6 overall rating in runs per game at 4.92.
2. Giants are also #6 in strikeouts (223) and #7 in walks (96).
3. Giants are #17 in stolen bases, up from dead last, last year. Not bad.
4. Giants have a 10-6 road record, they're the first MLB team to have won 10 games on the road. They have also played more road games than any other team to date.
5. Giants are 16-9, tied with the Dodgers, one game behind the Padres. All three teams are 5-5 in their last 10 games. One big difference: Giants are 12-4 against teams with better than .500 record, the Padres are 8-7, Dodgers are 9-7.
6. Giants have the best fielding average in MLB at .990, with the fewest errors (9).
7. They are slightly below average Rtot at 1 (MLB average is 5) and the 9th most double plays.
8. Giant pitchers have the 8th best MLB ERA at 3.59; 7th most strikeouts (222).
9. On the not-great side, they have the 14th best WHIP (1.255) and have given up the 11th most walks.

Position-by-position WAR rankings. You can see the weaknesses:

3B T#1
2B #2
CF #2
RP #5
RF #10
DH #15 (Can't believe this one. Flores leads MLB in RBIs with 27).
SP #18
LF #20
1B #23
SS #29
C #29

I'm actually enthused by this. I think Adames and Bailey will both pick it up. I don't think Wade will, but there are other options. I think the starting pitching will settle in. We have budding stars at 2B, CF and an established star at 3B. Relief pitching is crushing it and Yaz is playing pretty well.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - BobK - 04-24-2025

Walker is being crushed. Thankfully we have Doval who was the savior last night

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-24-2025

(04-24-2025, 09:22 AM)BobK Wrote: Walker is being crushed. Thankfully we have Doval who was the savior last night

Also being crushed are four of our regular hitters, all batting below .200. Johnnie LeMaster batted below .200 during the month of April four times...but then, so did Jack Clark. So I'm not worried.

Giants won today, 6-5. Record is 17-9. Doval got the save, Rogers got the win. Erik Miller pitched 1 1/3rd uneventful innings. Rogers' ERA is 0.68. Chapman hit an HR on a 100.4 mph pitch, the fastest pitch off of which any Giants hitter has homered since they started measuring in 2008. Yaz also HR'd. Lee had a double and two walks.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Giants - 04-24-2025

(04-24-2025, 09:29 AM)Mick Wrote:
(04-24-2025, 09:22 AM)BobK Wrote: Walker is being crushed. Thankfully we have Doval who was the savior last night

Also being crushed are four of our regular hitters, all batting below .200. Johnnie LeMaster batted below .200 during the month of April four times...but then, so did Jack Clark. So I'm not worried.

Giants won today, 6-5. Record is 17-9. Doval got the save, Rogers got the win. Erik Miller pitched 1 1/3rd uneventful innings. Rogers' ERA is 0.68. Chapman hit an HR on a 100.4 mph pitch, the fastest pitch off of which any Giants hitter has homered since they started measuring in 2008. Yaz also HR'd. Lee had a double and two walks.

Doval is Brian Wilson redux. Every inning he pitches is an adventure but he is getting the job done.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - lex24 - 04-25-2025

17-9. In and of itself that’s impressive. In fact, it’s their best start since 2003. And the first time since 1974 that a Giant’s team without either Barry or Willie on it got off of to this fast a start.

But it’s even more so when you consider that they are now 14 games into a brutal 17 game stretch. 8-6. This was one of those stretches where they could’ve gone 4-13. The one good thing is it was in April and not August.

Then add the fact that their opponents to date, excluding games playing against the Giants, are playing at a .560 clip.

They also are a hell of a lot more fun to watch.

Also, Melvin has done a hell of a job protecting the bullpen. This could’ve been brutal in that regard. Instead, he’s managed to juggle things so that no one‘s overworked at this point. That could pay off in August and September.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Giants - 04-27-2025

It isn’t often one sees a Little League HR in the majors. To have it happen as the walk-off? Well, I have never seen nor heard of it happening. Wow! The Giants are living a charmed life right now. How long will it last?

RE: SF Giants 2025 - BobK - 04-27-2025

That was thrilling. Giants lead the NL West

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Leftcoast - 04-27-2025

(04-27-2025, 06:36 PM)Giants Wrote: It isn’t often one sees a Little League HR in the majors. To have it happen as the walk-off? Well, I have never seen nor heard of it happening. Wow! The Giants are living a charmed life right now. How long will it last?

The Rangers had 10 hits to the Giants' 5. Good defense offset some of that, capitalizing on Rangers errors also helped. It's also good to be lucky.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - qwerty49 - 04-28-2025

(04-27-2025, 10:07 PM)Leftcoast Wrote:
(04-27-2025, 06:36 PM)Giants Wrote: It isn’t often one sees a Little League HR in the majors. To have it happen as the walk-off? Well, I have never seen nor heard of it happening. Wow! The Giants are living a charmed life right now. How long will it last?

The Rangers had 10 hits to the Giants' 5. Good defense offset some of that, capitalizing on Rangers errors also helped. It's also good to be lucky.

Always better to be lucky than good!

I’m old enough to remember the June Swoons, LOL. Let’s see where we are in a couple of months.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-28-2025

Good news:
- Team has a day off, first one in 18 days.
- My new favorite player, Jung Hoo Lee, is leading the league in doubles with 11.
- Wilmer Flores is leading MLB in RBIs with 29.
- Chapman leads MLB in walks with 26.
- Nicest surprise: David Villar has a .804 OPS. Super sub.
- Not a surprise: Tyler Fitzgerald has a .289/.341/.447/.789 line.

Not-so-good-news:
- Robbie Ray also leads MLB in walks (by a pitcher) with 19.
- Our $182 million shortstop is in a massive offensive and defensive slump, hitting .542 (happily he is a slow starter), with a -3 Rtot. Of the team's 10 errors, he has three. David Schoenfeld of ESPN calls him the "most disappointing shortstop in MLB" so far this season.
- Bailey, Wade, Matos all hitting .164 or less.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - lex24 - 04-28-2025

(04-27-2025, 10:07 PM)Leftcoast Wrote:
(04-27-2025, 06:36 PM)Giants Wrote: It isn’t often one sees a Little League HR in the majors. To have it happen as the walk-off? Well, I have never seen nor heard of it happening. Wow! The Giants are living a charmed life right now. How long will it last?

The Rangers had 10 hits to the Giants' 5. Good defense offset some of that, capitalizing on Rangers errors also helped. It's also good to be lucky.

Tell that to LaMonte Wade. He had one of the most amazing AB’s I’ve ever seen. Bases loaded two outs first inning. Hits what had GS distance about 3 feet foul. Then hits a bullet off bottom of the right field wall about 4 inches foul. Then on 3-2 hits a McCoveyesque line drive that was caught by Semien née Richardson.

Anywhere from 2 to 4 runs lost on three swings in same AB. So, yeah, they were lucky late. Very unlucky early.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-28-2025

(04-28-2025, 04:46 PM)lex24 Wrote:
(04-27-2025, 10:07 PM)Leftcoast Wrote:
(04-27-2025, 06:36 PM)Giants Wrote: It isn’t often one sees a Little League HR in the majors. To have it happen as the walk-off? Well, I have never seen nor heard of it happening. Wow! The Giants are living a charmed life right now. How long will it last?

The Rangers had 10 hits to the Giants' 5. Good defense offset some of that, capitalizing on Rangers errors also helped. It's also good to be lucky.

Tell that to LaMonte Wade. He had one of the most amazing AB’s I’ve ever seen. Bases loaded two outs first inning. Hits what had GS distance about 3 feet foul. Then hits a bullet off bottom of your right field wall about 4 inches foul. Then on 3-2 hits a McCoveyesque line drive that was caught by Semien née Richardson.

Anywhere from 2 to 4 runs lost on three swings in same AB. So, yeah, they were lucky late. Very unlucky early.

Saw that. Man , I felt bad for that guy. Just striped the ball, only to get outs. Tough.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Giants - 04-28-2025

(04-28-2025, 04:44 PM)Mick Wrote: Good news:
- Team has a day off, first one in 18 days.
- My new favorite player, Jung Hoo Lee, is leading the league in doubles with 11.
- Wilmer Flores is leading MLB in RBIs with 29.
- Chapman leads MLB in walks with 26.
- Nicest surprise: David Villar has a .804 OPS. Super sub.
- Not a surprise: Tyler Fitzgerald has a .289/.341/.447/.789 line.

Not-so-good-news:
- Robbie Ray also leads MLB in walks (by a pitcher) with 19.
- Our $182 million shortstop is in a massive offensive and defensive slump, hitting .542 (happily he is a slow starter), with a -3 Rtot. Of the team's 10 errors, he has three. David Schoenfeld of ESPN calls him the "most disappointing shortstop in MLB" so far this season.
- Bailey, Wade, Matos all hitting .164 or less.

Villar is 2 for 7. As soon as Schmitt is healthy, Villar is back in the minors. He is nothing more than a 4A player.

The Super Sub on the Giants is Christian Koss. He has been a very pleasant surprise (and he is tied for with Brandon Crawford and Pablo Sandoval, two SF icons, for the best career ERA [0.00] in the San Francisco era).

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 04-30-2025

I notice that Blake Snell and his five year/$135 mms. contract has had two starts, nine innings pitched for the Dodgers this year. He's 1-0. He's giving up eight walks per nine innings.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - lex24 - 04-30-2025

(04-30-2025, 08:07 AM)Mick Wrote: I notice that Blake Snell and his five year/$135 mms. contract has had two starts, nine innings pitched for the Dodgers this year. He's 1-0. He's giving up eight walks per nine innings.

Hurt.

Dodgers don’t care. They just want him for his last couple months of the season and the playoffs. The Dodgers theory of pitching is like the Russians strategy in World War II. War of attrition.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Mick - 05-01-2025

Also noticed that Joey Bart is hitting .297/.416/.405/.821.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - Giants - 05-01-2025

(05-01-2025, 12:27 PM)Mick Wrote: Also noticed that Joey Bart is hitting .297/.416/.405/.821.

Would you start him over Bailey?

I wouldn’t.

RE: SF Giants 2025 - BostonCard - 05-01-2025

In other news, Soto just hit his first (two) home runs in Citi Field since becoming a Met.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/44955927/juan-soto-hits-first-2-homers-citi-field-joining-mets

BC