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Re: Class of 2014 - Bruce Wang - 07-02-2013
I live by the maxim: "Happy Wife. Happy Life." She does quibble about how much time I spend with you guys. ::) But she's very understanding that this place helps me live vicariously on the Farm. :-\
Re: Class of 2014 - Bruce Wang - 07-02-2013
(07-01-2013, 05:13 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Joey Alfieri one of the top 10 athletes at the Opening:
https://twitter.com/GCobbJr/status/351839321453629441
Article below details Alfieri's athleticism. Sounds like he's the best overall athlete among Stanford's remaining targets.
http://highschoolsports.oregonlive.com/news/article/-6523267161798236863/football-jesuits-joey-alfieri-shows-off-athleticism-at-the-opening/
This one has the video of him jumping higher than Blake Griffin.
http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2013/07/nikes_the_opening_coverage_und.html
Re: Class of 2014 - stupac2 - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 12:17 PM)Publius link Wrote:I hear the beer is amazing too. Will find out this weekend.
Vermont does have some great beer, but it depends a lot on what you're into. If you like hop-forward pale ales and IPAs, then you're golden. Hill Farmstead, Lawson's, and The Alchemist all make excellent versions of that style. Hill Farmstead also makes a number of good Saisons, if you're into that sort of thing.
Re: Class of 2014-SPARQ ratings - Bruce Wang - 07-02-2013
Got curious about this Nike SPARQ rating system. There are some familiar names on this list. I'm skeptical how relevant this given how different the positions are. Did notice that Keller's score is about the same as Tebow's was.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/7/1/4484646/full-nike-sparq-combine-results-the-opening-2013
Re: Class of 2014 - CompSci87 - 07-02-2013
(07-02-2013, 11:06 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:Quote:As Al Franken said at my sister's Harvard graduation, "You know I think there are people at their deathbed that thought to themselves. I should have worked harder in my 20s and 30s. My life would have turned out better."
In my experience, people who worked harder than their peers in their 20's and 30's end up working harder than their peers in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. Hard work begets more responsibility begets more hard work. I'm sure there's the occasional "I hit the dotcom jackpot and now I sit at home all day and play video games" but even those who hit the jackpot seem to go back to the well to see if they can hit it harder the next time. I personally can't fathom how Larry and Sergey can keep motivated with their personal wealth. But I guess that's part of what explains how they founded google and I joined the Fortune 500 after my first start up went bust.
Those who go back aren't necessarily looking for even more wealth; some are probably going back because it's what they like to do most. Larry and Sergey would probably be dreadfully bored sitting at home all day and playing video games, and maybe even more active endeavors like running sports teams, building America's Cup yachts, etc. don't appeal to them.
Re: Class of 2014 - rudruff - 07-02-2013
They are probably just playing the wrong video games
Re: Class of 2014 - yvonne - 07-03-2013
Look at who Harrison Philips is following:
https://twitter.com/horribleharry99/following
Re: Class of 2014 - FarmBoy - 07-03-2013
For those of us without Twitter accounts, what's so interesting about his "following" list?
Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 08:53 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:For those of us without Twitter accounts, what's so interesting about his "following" list?
He is following an unusual number of Stanford people.
Look, I'm a Stanford fan on Twitter, but following Michael Eubanks there is a level of interest even I don't have.
EDIT: also note that Solomon Thoomas's twitter follows are similarly concentrated: https://twitter.com/SollyThomas90/following
Re: Class of 2014 - FarmBoy - 07-03-2013
Apparently Chryst is not shining at the Elite 11 camp:
http://www.studentsports.com/blog/2013/07/03/10032/
I have no idea how you project from what happens at camp to "real" football. That's a pretty intense environment to be ranked real time by the coaches running the camp.
Re: Class of 2014 - OutsiderFan - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 10:06 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:I have no idea how you project from what happens at [the Elite 11] camp to "real" football.
You pretty much don't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_RISE_Elite_11
Re: Class of 2014 - OutsiderFan - 07-03-2013
Joey Alfieri - of the 133 SPARQ score - has Stanford in Top 3, with Oregon State and Washington.
I say he's Farm-bound.
Re: Class of 2014 - slide - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 10:06 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:Apparently Chryst is not shining at the Elite 11 camp:
http://www.studentsports.com/blog/2013/07/03/10032/
I have no idea how you project from what happens at camp to "real" football. That's a pretty intense environment to be ranked real time by the coaches running the camp.
a different view of Chryst from the same session?
http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1304697.html
Re: Class of 2014 - FarmBoy - 07-03-2013
Quote:You pretty much don't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_RISE_Elite_11
Wow, pretty amazing hit or miss. The kids at the camp either go first round (few) or undrafted (most.) The 2005 class was pretty monster though: Josh Freeman, Jake Locker, Matt Stafford, and Time Tebow all went in the 1st round in later drafts. (And of course the illustrious Kevin Riley.)
Re: Class of 2014 - FarmBoy - 07-03-2013
Quote:a different view of Chryst from the same session?
http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1304697.html
I don't have a Scout.com account, so can't read the article. I presume it was positive.
I don't know how official the link I sourced is in the ranking, though it implies it's created by the coaches running the camp.
Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 10:42 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:Wow, pretty amazing hit or miss. The kids at the camp either go first round (few) or undrafted (most.) The 2005 class was pretty monster though: Josh Freeman, Jake Locker, Matt Stafford, and Time Tebow all went in the 1st round in later drafts. (And of course the illustrious Kevin Riley.)
Well of course it's hit or miss. Predicting how kids will do in four years is an inherently difficult enterprise. It's often made more difficult by the fact that highly rated kids go to the same school. Given Matt Cassel's NFL career, is there much doubt he could've been at least a solid SC QB? I'm guessing no. We may discover the same happy fate if we hit the Rosen/Chryst/Burns trifecta.
I think I saw the stat that 33% of elite 11 QBs get drafted. That's not bad, but 44% of 5-star pro-style QBs and 21% of four-star pro-style QBs get drafted, so it doesn't appear elite 11 has any sort of assessment advantage on the scouting services.
(data from: http://www.sbnation.com/elite-11-quarterback-camp-recruit-football-college-qb/2013/6/27/4471748/finals-recruit-the-opening-2013
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/5-stars-first-rounders-predictably-uncertain-path-recruit-pro)
Re: Class of 2014 - FarmBoy - 07-03-2013
I wasn't commenting on the hit or miss nature of getting drafted or not (but thanks for the interesting stats on 5 star vs. elite 11), but the fact that they're either first round quality players or not drafted. That is a a surprise to me. Is the implication that if these guys got an opportunity to start, that they would be 1st round quality? I don't think so, but it seems like an odd dynamic nonetheless.
Re: Class of 2014 - Bruce Wang - 07-03-2013
Finishing at the top of Elite 11 means that you are the definitely the best of the best at these drills and probably going to be a pretty good college QB in real games. I'm reminded of something Han Solo once said about Luke Skywalker's light saber practice session: "Look, good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living? That's something else."
To me, stuff like this is like the recruiting stars, another data point that indicates probabilities. A good crystal ball, not an infallible oracle. And there's no way to predict/measure qualities that Stanford QBs are known for: leadership, smarts, grit, etc. For Stanford's recent QB experience here, this is the data. Luck was the runner-up to Blaine Gabbert for Elite 11 MVP. Kevin Hogan was not at Elite11, but his understudy Evan Crower was. Ryan Burns got an invite to the finals but it turned it down for a team camp instead. A statement of leadership.
Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 07-03-2013
This is a nice tweet for us:
https://twitter.com/Bobby_Okereke/status/352495950427725824
Okereke, by the way, was a recent offer recipient at camp. 3 star, but offered by SC and Oregon, so definitely a guy we'd like to have, I assume.
Re: Class of 2014 - oman - 07-03-2013
(07-03-2013, 10:44 AM)FarmBoy link Wrote:I don't have a Scout.com account, so can't read the article. I presume it was positive.
Basically says he was able to do the Kessel Drill in 12 parsecs.Â
(i.e., he's fast old man.)