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RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - martyup - 10-23-2019

(10-23-2019, 10:11 AM)oldalum Wrote:  

Giannulli wrote: “Good news my daughter … is in [U]SC … bad is I had to work cheat the system,” [/quote]

there I fixed it for him
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Fixed again.

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - qwerty49 - 10-23-2019

(10-23-2019, 10:21 AM)CowboyIndian Wrote:  
(10-23-2019, 10:04 AM)martyup Wrote:  , Giannulli wrote: “Good news my daughter … is in [U]SC … bad is I had to work the system,” [/size][/color]

Am I alone in noticing his name is very nearly an anagram for Giuliani?
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LOL, sadly, you probably are not.

The popcorn-munching proletarian in me can't wait to see Mossi and Aunt Becky behind bars.

I think I read somewhere that Mossi's "designer label" is/was with.....Target.  You can't make this stuff up.

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - oldalum - 10-23-2019

Why do these two think they have even the slightest chance of being acquitted by a jury? Maybe the plan is just to try to get Lori off completely by throwing her husband under the bus at trial, with his willing participation??

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - 82lsju - 10-23-2019

Quote:Jane Buckingham sentenced to three weeks in prison

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-23/college-admissions-scandal-jane-buckingham-sentenced

the scoreboard

Parents

sentenced
coming soon 

(plea agreements here https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme , not all with sentencing date have plea agreements posted)
plea of not guilty
Non-parents

sentenced
coming soon
Plea of not guilty


RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - 82lsju - 10-31-2019

Quote:Bizzack received his final punishment Wednesday, when U.S. District Judge Douglas P. Woodlock sentenced the 59-year-old to two months in prison. He must also pay a $250,000 fine, remain on supervised release for three years after leaving prison, and perform 300 hours of community service.

...

But Bizzack’s case is unique: He was not among the 33 parents arrested in the March 12 takedown of Singer’s scam. Overcome with shame, Bizzack’s lawyers said in a sentencing memorandum, he contacted federal prosecutors in Boston soon after, offering to turn himself in and provide whatever information he could. At a meeting with prosecutors and agents in May, Bizzack “engaged in a truthful, complete and candid discussion of his actions,” his memo says.



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-30/college-admissions-scandal-surfing-executive-bizzack-sentenced

the scoreboard

Parents

sentenced
coming soon 

(plea agreements here https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme , not all with sentencing date have plea agreements posted)
plea of not guilty
Non-parents

sentenced
coming soon


Plea of not guilty


RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - 82lsju - 11-13-2019

Quote:A California man [Toby MacFarlane] was sentenced to six months in jail for paying $450,000 in bribes to get his two kids into the University of Southern California, claiming falsely that his 5-foot-5-inch son was a 6-foot-1 basketball recruit and that his daughter was a top-flight soccer player.


https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/california-man-gets-6-months-in-harshest-penalty-in-college-case-1.1347579

the scoreboard

Parents

sentenced
coming soon 

(plea agreements here https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/investigations-college-admissions-and-testing-bribery-scheme , not all with sentencing date have plea agreements posted)
plea of not guilty
Non-parents

sentenced
coming soon

Plea of not guilty


RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - cardcrimson - 12-09-2019

Apparently, not just admissions, graduation too. This kid has just lost his Georgetown degree cuz mom paid Singer to have someone take his class for him.

"In April 2018, Singer's company sent her an invoice for $3,000. She responded that she thought she'd be given a "discount" because the "grade [Key associate 1 earned] was a C and the experience was a nightmare!" according to the criminal information."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/09/us/college-scam-georgetown-test/index.html

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - 82lsju - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 03:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Apparently, not just admissions, graduation too. This kid has just lost his Georgetown degree cuz mom paid Singer to have someone take his class for him.

"In April 2018, Singer's company sent her an invoice for $3,000. She responded that she thought she'd be given a "discount" because the "grade [Key associate 1 earned] was a C and the experience was a nightmare!" according to the criminal information."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/09/us/college-scam-georgetown-test/index.html

I'd guess she gets probation as she has only 7 points (same as Sartorio who got probation)

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/page/file/1224566/download

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - cardcrimson - 12-09-2019

Yes, probably probation for her, but her son will be paying for it the rest of his life. Seeya diploma!

(12-09-2019, 04:09 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 03:44 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Apparently, not just admissions, graduation too. This kid has just lost his Georgetown degree cuz mom paid Singer to have someone take his class for him.

"In April 2018, Singer's company sent her an invoice for $3,000. She responded that she thought she'd be given a "discount" because the "grade [Key associate 1 earned] was a C and the experience was a nightmare!" according to the criminal information."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/09/us/college-scam-georgetown-test/index.html

I'd guess she gets probation as she has only 7 points (same as Sartorio who got probation)

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/page/file/1224566/download


RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - 82lsju - 12-10-2019

(12-09-2019, 05:25 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Yes, probably probation for her, but her son will be paying for it the rest of his life. Seeya diploma!

it will be interesting to see what Georgetown does given from your link

Quote:In addition, Georgetown indicated that the charge against Littlefair could impact her son's degree.

"When the University learns of a potential serious violation of the Honor System after a student has graduated, the Honor Council will investigate and adjudicate the case and may recommend sanctions up to and including the revocation of the student's degree," Georgetown said.

it seems unlikely in this case that the student could be completely unaware of what was going on

do they revoke his degree for cheating?  Void the classes and let him take classes to get his degree?  something else?

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - teejers1 - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 09:44 AM)82lsju Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 05:25 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Yes, probably probation for her, but her son will be paying for it the rest of his life. Seeya diploma!

it will be interesting to see what Georgetown does given from your link

Quote:In addition, Georgetown indicated that the charge against Littlefair could impact her son's degree.

"When the University learns of a potential serious violation of the Honor System after a student has graduated, the Honor Council will investigate and adjudicate the case and may recommend sanctions up to and including the revocation of the student's degree," Georgetown said.

it seems unlikely in this case that the student could be completely unaware of what was going on

do they revoke his degree for cheating?  Void the classes and let him take classes to get his degree?  something else?

Dang . . . I thought I was obsessed with Stanford's deficient offense.  
And these scorecards/updates remind me of the woman with the bell who followed Cersei on her Walk of Atonement.

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - qwerty49 - 12-10-2019

Cmon Teejers surely you’ve figured out that the sweet spot of this subject is the starring role played by the University of Spoiled Children. 

If we were talking about Bama admissions the yawning would have been over before it started.

(12-10-2019, 12:12 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  
(12-10-2019, 09:44 AM)82lsju Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 05:25 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Yes, probably probation for her, but her son will be paying for it the rest of his life. Seeya diploma!

it will be interesting to see what Georgetown does given from your link

Quote:In addition, Georgetown indicated that the charge against Littlefair could impact her son's degree.

"When the University learns of a potential serious violation of the Honor System after a student has graduated, the Honor Council will investigate and adjudicate the case and may recommend sanctions up to and including the revocation of the student's degree," Georgetown said.

it seems unlikely in this case that the student could be completely unaware of what was going on

do they revoke his degree for cheating?  Void the classes and let him take classes to get his degree?  something else?

Dang . . . I thought I was obsessed with Stanford's deficient offense.  
And these scorecards/updates remind me of the woman with the bell who followed Cersei on her Walk of Atonement.


RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - teejers1 - 12-11-2019

(12-10-2019, 06:45 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  Cmon Teejers surely you’ve figured out that the sweet spot of this subject is the starring role played by the University of Spoiled Children. 

If we were talking about Bama admissions the yawning would have been over before it started.

Ah . . . Bach!

That makes some sense.  (I actually breeze over the updates, so didn't appreciate the SC connection).

More generally, I'm sure folks here view the updates as edifying and appreciate them.  

I've just never been big on enjoying others' pains/embarrassment/what-have-you.  I have no doubt they (and their families) are suffering duly for their misconduct.

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - BostonCard - 02-08-2020

Longest prison sentence handed out in the college admissions scandal to date, to the former CEO of Pimco.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-07/douglas-hodge-ex-pimco-chief-sentenced-to-in-admissions-scandal

BC

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - cardcrimson - 02-11-2020

Olivia Jade: "highly talented"

here's her fake recruiting profile.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - M T - 02-11-2020

(02-08-2020, 01:28 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Longest prison sentence handed out in the college admissions scandal to date, to the former CEO of Pimco.



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-07/douglas-hodge-ex-pimco-chief-sentenced-to-in-admissions-scandal



BC

What is the prognosis of jail time for the criminal mastermind behind all this -- the one who enticed all these people into doing something they had no way of knowing how to do, even had they thought of trying it before he approached them ?   This isn't even like a pimp turning in all the Johns.  This guy seemingly had a monopoly, and sought out the people with money that might fall for his schemes.

Does he wind up getting credit (shorter sentence) from the DoJ for being so successful at his criminal exploits that he has lots of Johns to turn in?  Or, does his sentence get longer the more of them there are?

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - oldalum - 02-11-2020

(12-11-2019, 01:09 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  I've just never been big on enjoying others' pains/embarrassment/what-have-you.  
For me, enjoying is not the right word. More like satisfaction at seeing justice done, which is somewhat reassuring when it seems like so many injustices in the world--small and large--are not rectified.

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - M T - 02-12-2020

(02-11-2020, 04:47 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Olivia Jade: "highly talented"
here's her fake recruiting profile.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html

Calling it "her fake recruiting profile'" seems as accurate as calling a forged check on someone's account as "his bad check".   Certainly someone clueless about the sport wasn't the one to know the names of those rowing events. 

To me, this just is a sign of how brazen Singer & one of the USC insiders were, and how weak or corrupt the USC review process was.  It was really quite easy for me to determine that the first two race claims are false, and I know next to nothing about that sport.  And, of course, the statement about her sister should have been easily known or found to be false by anyone at the school.  Just whose are the 3 sets of initials (possibly "MY", "[T/F/J]AB", "[U/W]B") in that box labeled "SUBCO Comment/Interview"? 

Does the prosecution's public release of this document suggest that they feel the need to influence the public before this goes to trial?  I certainly don't know.  I don't know whether the reported indignant tone of the prosecutor's filing (in response to a defense filing) is typical.   I will say that the redaction of the first name seems to be grandstanding to me, but perhaps it was technically required.

But the public is doing what the prosecution probably expected.  They're saying it is "HER fake profile" and deriding how outlandish it is just as though she wrote it.   Clearly the outlandish content must prove her parents' guilt, right?.   Anyone else feel this profile was way over the top to get a coxswain into non-scholarship-athlete consideration?  Couldn't respectable finishes in races that don't have their history documented on the Internet have worked as well?   Hmmm...

Reportedly, Singer claimed he provided 761 "side doors".   So, we've got less than 10% of those families charged.  You can't fit that many applicants onto all the sports teams we currently know about, even spread over 8 years. 

I wonder what his exit strategy was?  Could he have been setting up these hundreds of families all along?   I doubt he was looking at making money later in life by writing a book....

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - Mick - 02-12-2020

I'm curious to hear what happened to Morrie Tobin, the financial fraudster who owned virtually all of the stock in two companies in a classic pump-and-dump scheme.  Here's the complaint:
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2019/comp24583.pdf

He pled guilty and identified Rick Singer as demanding the $450k bribe to get his daughter into Yale, leading to charges against 33 parents who participated in Singer's schemes

Does anyone know how much of a sentence reduction Tobin enjoyed by fingering Singer? I know he had to forfeit $4 million and they recommended 36 months of supervised release, but how does that compare with what me might have been sentenced?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/morrie-tobin-college-admissions-scam

RE: Alleged large-scale test-cheating ring to get athletes into Stanford, other schools - qwerty49 - 02-12-2020

(02-11-2020, 06:36 PM)oldalum Wrote:  
(12-11-2019, 01:09 PM)teejers1 Wrote:  I've just never been big on enjoying others' pains/embarrassment/what-have-you.  
For me, enjoying is not the right word. More like satisfaction at seeing justice done, which is somewhat reassuring when it seems like so many injustices in the world--small and large--are not rectified.

Oh, I'm enjoying this, all right.  We all know how hard it is to get into a good academic university these days.  And at the end of the day, these entitled brats basically took the places of truly deserving students who worked hard and were denied.  

The fat-cat parents deserve to be prosecuted fully.  This doesn't counterbalance the more serious abuses of our legal and judicial system, but it works for me.  I guess maybe this is one of my "OK boomer" moments.