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Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - CowboyIndian - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 07:45 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
And civil suits are there for when the rules are misinterpreted.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - Roberton3 - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 07:45 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - Roberton3 - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 07:45 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - Roberton3 - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 07:45 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - martyup - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:44 AM)Roberton3 link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15811.msg173737#msg173737 date=1475160341]
The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
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While I am just a recovering attorney, I would love to put a blow-up of that instagram photo on an eisel in front of a civil jury during cross-examination of the Pac-12 official that ruled that there was no violation of the rule.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - martyup - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:44 AM)Roberton3 link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15811.msg173737#msg173737 date=1475160341]
The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
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While I am just a recovering attorney, I would love to put a blow-up of that instagram photo on an eisel in front of a civil jury during cross-examination of the Pac-12 official that ruled that there was no violation of the rule.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - martyup - 09-29-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:44 AM)Roberton3 link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15811.msg173737#msg173737 date=1475160341]
The rules are there to prevent the league from getting sued. The rules are there to mitigate injury while allowing for the excitement of big hits. The rules are there to allow leeway in official interpretation on the field, in the moment. They're there to be whatever the refs need them to be.
I was talking about this with a friend who's a lawyer. He said that in other contexts, having a rule and being lax in enforcement usually puts you in a worse legal position than having no rule at all. Do the lawyers here agree? If so, it seems like the Pac-12 might have some problems down the road.
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While I am just a recovering attorney, I would love to put a blow-up of that instagram photo on an eisel in front of a civil jury during cross-examination of the Pac-12 official that ruled that there was no violation of the rule.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - M T - 09-30-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:48 AM)martyup link Wrote:While I am just a recovering attorney...
Whoa, there. Do recovering attorneys have to do a 12-step program, including this
Quote:
- Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
- Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
? That's gotta be really challenging! (I don't normally use smileys. I tried to drag in the wink smiley, but it didn't work. Lawyer's have to be the most harassed class of people.)
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - M T - 09-30-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:48 AM)martyup link Wrote:While I am just a recovering attorney...
Whoa, there. Do recovering attorneys have to do a 12-step program, including this
Quote:
- Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
- Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
? That's gotta be really challenging! (I don't normally use smileys. I tried to drag in the wink smiley, but it didn't work. Lawyer's have to be the most harassed class of people.)
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit was LEGAL - M T - 09-30-2016
(09-29-2016, 10:48 AM)martyup link Wrote:While I am just a recovering attorney...
Whoa, there. Do recovering attorneys have to do a 12-step program, including this
Quote:
- Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
- Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
? That's gotta be really challenging! (I don't normally use smileys. I tried to drag in the wink smiley, but it didn't work. Lawyer's have to be the most harassed class of people.)
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - norcard - 09-30-2016
Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - norcard - 09-30-2016
Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - norcard - 09-30-2016
Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - admin - 09-30-2016
You don't drag the smileys (emoticons). You click on them. Or, if you know the keys, you can draw the smileys and create them.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - admin - 09-30-2016
You don't drag the smileys (emoticons). You click on them. Or, if you know the keys, you can draw the smileys and create them.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - admin - 09-30-2016
You don't drag the smileys (emoticons). You click on them. Or, if you know the keys, you can draw the smileys and create them.
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - OutsiderFan - 09-30-2016
(09-30-2016, 01:52 AM)norcard link Wrote:Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
I don't remember too many Stanford players making illegal hits. There was this Shayne Skov hit on Jared Goff in the helmet area a couple years ago, but I don't think he was concussed. Nevertheless, given today's rules, and what we are advocating against, it should have been flagged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWnGeY9gw4
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - OutsiderFan - 09-30-2016
(09-30-2016, 01:52 AM)norcard link Wrote:Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
I don't remember too many Stanford players making illegal hits. There was this Shayne Skov hit on Jared Goff in the helmet area a couple years ago, but I don't think he was concussed. Nevertheless, given today's rules, and what we are advocating against, it should have been flagged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWnGeY9gw4
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - OutsiderFan - 09-30-2016
(09-30-2016, 01:52 AM)norcard link Wrote:Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
I don't remember too many Stanford players making illegal hits. There was this Shayne Skov hit on Jared Goff in the helmet area a couple years ago, but I don't think he was concussed. Nevertheless, given today's rules, and what we are advocating against, it should have been flagged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWnGeY9gw4
Re: Pac-12 Says Goodman Hit on Owusu was LEGAL - FarmBoy - 09-30-2016
Quote:Are you guys this diligent when a stanford player lays out another player?
Have you ever seen a fanbase defend opponents as much as they defend players on their own team? Do you understand what being a fan is about?