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Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - M T - 09-30-2016

In the TV broadcast of the Stanford@Cal match, the announcers say (before play starts) that Haley is "dealing with stress and inflammation in her lower legs and feet.  The only thing you can do is to rest and get healthy."

Inky may have learned a lot on the bench, but I hope Haley doesn't get that opportunity!

The Washington match was unusually streaky.  I felt our comebacks strengthen the view that we may really have a top team, even this year.  We have so many individually good players.

I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

I didn't see too many other calls that I disagreed with.  On the 5th point of set 3 (1:15 of broadcast), we hit a ball that bounced at the judge's feet and she called it long, but it was clearly in.    The second Washington setter #22 did a one-handed set well above the top of the net (4th set 7-9) when she was in the back row.  I thought that was illegal, but again I don't know the rules that well.  But all in all, a good officiating job I thought.

Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - cardfan77 - 09-30-2016

(09-30-2016, 12:46 AM)MT link Wrote:I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

I didn't see too many other calls that I disagreed with.  On the 5th point of set 3 (1:15 of broadcast), we hit a ball that bounced at the judge's feet and she called it long, but it was clearly in.    The second Washington setter #22 did a one-handed set well above the top of the net (4th set 7-9) when she was in the back row.  I thought that was illegal, but again I don't know the rules that well.  But all in all, a good officiating job I thought.

A back row setter can set the ball  above the net as long as the ball is on their side of the court.  The setter becomes a blocker or attacker if an opposing player touches the ball while the setter is attempting to set which then the setter becomes an illegal player. 

I am not too sure about the other two.  I believe the ball is consider out of play once it makes contact with an official. 

This team is definitely exciting to watch.  Lots of talent and potential.  The future looks bright for Stanford Womenʻs Vball.  Hopefully Haley is recovering well.

Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - cardfan77 - 09-30-2016

(09-30-2016, 12:46 AM)MT link Wrote:I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

I didn't see too many other calls that I disagreed with.  On the 5th point of set 3 (1:15 of broadcast), we hit a ball that bounced at the judge's feet and she called it long, but it was clearly in.    The second Washington setter #22 did a one-handed set well above the top of the net (4th set 7-9) when she was in the back row.  I thought that was illegal, but again I don't know the rules that well.  But all in all, a good officiating job I thought.

A back row setter can set the ball  above the net as long as the ball is on their side of the court.  The setter becomes a blocker or attacker if an opposing player touches the ball while the setter is attempting to set which then the setter becomes an illegal player. 

I am not too sure about the other two.  I believe the ball is consider out of play once it makes contact with an official. 

This team is definitely exciting to watch.  Lots of talent and potential.  The future looks bright for Stanford Womenʻs Vball.  Hopefully Haley is recovering well.

Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - cardfan77 - 09-30-2016

(09-30-2016, 12:46 AM)MT link Wrote:I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

I didn't see too many other calls that I disagreed with.  On the 5th point of set 3 (1:15 of broadcast), we hit a ball that bounced at the judge's feet and she called it long, but it was clearly in.    The second Washington setter #22 did a one-handed set well above the top of the net (4th set 7-9) when she was in the back row.  I thought that was illegal, but again I don't know the rules that well.  But all in all, a good officiating job I thought.

A back row setter can set the ball  above the net as long as the ball is on their side of the court.  The setter becomes a blocker or attacker if an opposing player touches the ball while the setter is attempting to set which then the setter becomes an illegal player. 

I am not too sure about the other two.  I believe the ball is consider out of play once it makes contact with an official. 

This team is definitely exciting to watch.  Lots of talent and potential.  The future looks bright for Stanford Womenʻs Vball.  Hopefully Haley is recovering well.

Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - M T - 10-01-2016

(09-30-2016, 12:46 AM)MT link Wrote:I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

NCAA rule books are again available.  The rules state:
Quote:13.1.3.6 At the moment the server contacts the ball for service or takes off for
a jump service, the server must not touch the court (end line included) or
the playing area outside the lines marking the width of the service zone.
It was clear this rule was not violated.  I don't see any of the other service-related rules that are violated.  In particular, I do not see a rule that prohibits the server from stepping out of the legal service region (such as into the court or to the sidelines) as long as the server is in the legal area at the time of contact.


Re: WVB - Round 1 of Stanford vs UW this week goes to the Cardinal - M T - 10-01-2016

(09-30-2016, 12:46 AM)MT link Wrote:I don't know the VB rules that well, but given that our server had only her left foot down (and clearly inside the side lines by at least 2 feet) when she contacted the ball, I'd be surprised if the ruling of the head referee, that she was beyond the side lines, was correct.  Yes, her right foot had been out of the side lines, last it was down, but it was clearly off the ground when she contacted the ball.  Anyone know the rule? (NCAA site is down at this moment, so I can't look them up.)

NCAA rule books are again available.  The rules state:
Quote:13.1.3.6 At the moment the server contacts the ball for service or takes off for
a jump service, the server must not touch the court (end line included) or
the playing area outside the lines marking the width of the service zone.
It was clear this rule was not violated.  I don't see any of the other service-related rules that are violated.  In particular, I do not see a rule that prohibits the server from stepping out of the legal service region (such as into the court or to the sidelines) as long as the server is in the legal area at the time of contact.