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Re: Directors Cup - BigEasyCard - 12-18-2016

With their second national championship in a week, the Cardinal now have an unofficial total of 465 Cup points.  This includes the minimum of 25 for FB.  A convincing win could add another 25 points or more to the current total.

Geaux Cardinal!

Re: Directors Cup - BigEasyCard - 12-18-2016

With their second national championship in a week, the Cardinal now have an unofficial total of 465 Cup points.  This includes the minimum of 25 for FB.  A convincing win could add another 25 points or more to the current total.

Geaux Cardinal!

Re: Directors Cup - 81alum - 12-18-2016

Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

Re: Directors Cup - 81alum - 12-18-2016

Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

Re: Directors Cup - M T - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 11:20 AM)81alum link Wrote:Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

The scoring to this point is Field Hockey, Soccer (M&W), Cross-country (M&W), and Water Polo (M), just 6 of 37 scoring sports.  I wouldn't call that "everything".


Anyone else notice that during the WVB championship, the Other Cup's results shown in the broadcast did not include the championship from the previous week?    The two NC in group B (3x the points for popular sports + Lacrosse(??)) for Stanford will leave us well in the lead for both men's & women's Other Cup standings.

(FYI, if you haven't looked at a detail of the differences, the Other Cup splits Fencing, Rifle and Skiing into two scoring categories (M&W) instead of one (Co-ed), and adds beach volleyball, resulting in 41 vs 37 scoring categories.  The NCAA site seems to indicate that Rifle & Skiing are co-ed sports (only one championship listed).  The NCAA Championship site for fencing only shows a single championship over the past few years, but the ranking is listed by gender.)

Re: Directors Cup - M T - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 11:20 AM)81alum link Wrote:Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

The scoring to this point is Field Hockey, Soccer (M&W), Cross-country (M&W), and Water Polo (M), just 6 of 37 scoring sports.  I wouldn't call that "everything".


Anyone else notice that during the WVB championship, the Other Cup's results shown in the broadcast did not include the championship from the previous week?    The two NC in group B (3x the points for popular sports + Lacrosse(??)) for Stanford will leave us well in the lead for both men's & women's Other Cup standings.

(FYI, if you haven't looked at a detail of the differences, the Other Cup splits Fencing, Rifle and Skiing into two scoring categories (M&W) instead of one (Co-ed), and adds beach volleyball, resulting in 41 vs 37 scoring categories.  The NCAA site seems to indicate that Rifle & Skiing are co-ed sports (only one championship listed).  The NCAA Championship site for fencing only shows a single championship over the past few years, but the ranking is listed by gender.)

Re: Directors Cup - Spiny_Norman - 12-18-2016

MT, remember that the Other Cup does not award points for soccer and volleyball based on NCAA tournament results.  That would be too easy.  Points are determined by polls.

Soccer - NSCAA/Continental Tire NCAA Rankings
Volleyball - AVCA Coaches Poll

Fortunately, the final men's soccer poll did place Stanford #1 (although Wake Forest pulled in 3 votes for #1).
http://www.nscaa.com/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx

Final VB poll still to be published.

Re: Directors Cup - Spiny_Norman - 12-18-2016

MT, remember that the Other Cup does not award points for soccer and volleyball based on NCAA tournament results.  That would be too easy.  Points are determined by polls.

Soccer - NSCAA/Continental Tire NCAA Rankings
Volleyball - AVCA Coaches Poll

Fortunately, the final men's soccer poll did place Stanford #1 (although Wake Forest pulled in 3 votes for #1).
http://www.nscaa.com/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx

Final VB poll still to be published.

Re: Directors Cup - 2006alum - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 12:41 PM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:MT, remember that the Other Cup does not award points for soccer and volleyball based on NCAA tournament results.  That would be too easy.  Points are determined by polls.

Soccer - NSCAA/Continental Tire NCAA Rankings
Volleyball - AVCA Coaches Poll

Fortunately, the final men's soccer poll did place Stanford #1 (although Wake Forest pulled in 3 votes for #1).
http://www.nscaa.com/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx

Final VB poll still to be published.

Of course, this can redound to our advantage too. We finished sixth in women's soccer, for example, even though we finished tied for seventeenth in the tournament. Presumably our tremendous season outweighed one extremely flukey game in the minds of voters.

Re: Directors Cup - 2006alum - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 12:41 PM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:MT, remember that the Other Cup does not award points for soccer and volleyball based on NCAA tournament results.  That would be too easy.  Points are determined by polls.

Soccer - NSCAA/Continental Tire NCAA Rankings
Volleyball - AVCA Coaches Poll

Fortunately, the final men's soccer poll did place Stanford #1 (although Wake Forest pulled in 3 votes for #1).
http://www.nscaa.com/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DI_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DI_MEN.aspx

Final VB poll still to be published.

Of course, this can redound to our advantage too. We finished sixth in women's soccer, for example, even though we finished tied for seventeenth in the tournament. Presumably our tremendous season outweighed one extremely flukey game in the minds of voters.

Re: Directors Cup - DC 86 - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 11:20 AM)81alum link Wrote:Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).


Re: Directors Cup - DC 86 - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 11:20 AM)81alum link Wrote:Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).


Re: Directors Cup - 81alum - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 04:04 PM)DC 86 link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=16134.msg182890#msg182890 date=1482085235]
Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).
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OK I see my error.  My judgment was based on only the early returns. 

Re: Directors Cup - 81alum - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 04:04 PM)DC 86 link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=16134.msg182890#msg182890 date=1482085235]
Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).
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OK I see my error.  My judgment was based on only the early returns. 

Re: Directors Cup - larkinforever - 12-18-2016

Couple interesting items related to the final standings - Florida has finished in the top 10 every year (top 5 most years), and aside from Stanford and Florida, no other school has finished in the top 10 every year.

Re: Directors Cup - larkinforever - 12-18-2016

Couple interesting items related to the final standings - Florida has finished in the top 10 every year (top 5 most years), and aside from Stanford and Florida, no other school has finished in the top 10 every year.

Re: Directors Cup - stupac2 - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 04:04 PM)DC 86 link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=16134.msg182890#msg182890 date=1482085235]
Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).
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That's not that even because of differing number of teams. 7/12 is one hell of a lot more than 5/14.

Re: Directors Cup - stupac2 - 12-18-2016

(12-18-2016, 04:04 PM)DC 86 link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=16134.msg182890#msg182890 date=1482085235]
Interesting that the SEC has no one in the top 10 and only 3 in the top 30.  The Pac 12 and pretty much every other conference seems to do better than the SEC.  So is the SEC is a very narrow conference, not supporting many sports?  Or is it just bad at everything besides football?

It's misleading to make a judgment based on only the six early fall sports. Last year the top 25 finishers in the final directors cup represented four conferences and were distributed fairly evenly: Pac-12 (7), Big-X (7), ACC (6), SEC (5).

Four different SEC teams won national championships: Football (Alabama), Men's Track and Field (Florida), Women's Track and Field (Arkansas), Women's Swimming and Driving (Georgia).
[/quote]

That's not that even because of differing number of teams. 7/12 is one hell of a lot more than 5/14.

Re: Directors Cup - BigEasyCard - 12-22-2016

Stanford now leads the published standings with 440 points.  UCLA second with 348 and North Carolina is in third with 320. 

Current standings here:  http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/2016-17/misc_non_event/Dec22DIOverall.pdf

Press release here:  http://www.nacda.com/sports/directorscup/spec-rel/122216aaa.html

The Sun Bowl offers a chance to put more distance between us and the Tar Heels.  Stanford will score a minimum of 25 points with a loss and about 58 points with a win. 

Eight of the top 10 schools scored 50 points or more in WVB, making the national championship an important contributor to the lead over many of our closest competitors.

Geaux Cardinal!



Re: Directors Cup - BigEasyCard - 12-22-2016

Stanford now leads the published standings with 440 points.  UCLA second with 348 and North Carolina is in third with 320. 

Current standings here:  http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/2016-17/misc_non_event/Dec22DIOverall.pdf

Press release here:  http://www.nacda.com/sports/directorscup/spec-rel/122216aaa.html

The Sun Bowl offers a chance to put more distance between us and the Tar Heels.  Stanford will score a minimum of 25 points with a loss and about 58 points with a win. 

Eight of the top 10 schools scored 50 points or more in WVB, making the national championship an important contributor to the lead over many of our closest competitors.

Geaux Cardinal!