OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE

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Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - johnnyo53 - 07-27-2017

(07-27-2017, 09:40 AM)stupac2 link Wrote:IIRC there's at least one neurologist on here, I'd like to see their take(s). My understanding is that these studies have so much selection bias that it's hard to know what to make of them, but it's possible that as the numbers pile up that's changing.

It's also worth noting that those guys didn't play today's game, football is a lot different now, even compared with the 90's.

LET ALONE THE PRACTICE PROTOCOLS AND PROHIBITIONS AT THE COLLEGE AND PRO LEVEL NOW THAT DIDN'T EXIST TO PROTECT US IN THE 70'S AND 80'S IF NOT EARLIER.Â THE HORROR!

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - 2006alum - 07-27-2017

Respectfully, for readability, would it be possible to dispense with the all caps? Thank you.

For mick and others who played, did you have a sense that seeing stars would be a lifelong chronic affliction at the time? I think anyone who's received a concussion feels tangible short term consequences, but my sense from recent CTE research is that you can experience chronic long term problems without serious short term ones as pre-incidents, and that even non-concussing activity may contribute to the incidence of CTE. My sense was until 5-10 years ago, a specific concussion incident wasn't expected to have lifelong consequences. Maybe I'm wrong about that?

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - DC 86 - 07-27-2017

(07-27-2017, 07:23 PM)2006alum link Wrote:My sense was until 5-10 years ago, a specific concussion incident wasn't expected to have lifelong consequences. Maybe I'm wrong about that?

I don't think that specific concussion incidents are expected to have lifelong consequences; both formal research and anecdotal claims revolve around repeated, high volume incidences of concussive and subconcussive trauma.

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - Mick - 07-27-2017

(07-27-2017, 07:23 PM)2006alum link Wrote:Respectfully, for readability, would it be possible to dispense with the all caps? Thank you.

For mick and others who played, did you have a sense that seeing stars would be a lifelong chronic affliction at the time? I think anyone who's received a concussion feels tangible short term consequences, but my sense from recent CTE research is that you can experience chronic long term problems without serious short term ones as pre-incidents, and that even non-concussing activity may contribute to the incidence of CTE. My sense was until 5-10 years ago, a specific concussion incident wasn't expected to have lifelong consequences. Maybe I'm wrong about that?

My sense was that I wanted as few of them as possible because I thought they led to permanent brain injury.Â Yes, even as a 16 year old high school jock.

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - gocard14 - 07-27-2017

(07-27-2017, 03:31 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=dabigv link=topic=17092.msg196104#msg196104 date=1501191073]
At this point, I think epidemiologic studies will be far more valuable than these sorts of pathologic studies we always read about.

What meaning do these pathologic changes have clinically? That's still not clear.

That's something I've been curious about, when they've shown pictures of the autopsied brains, they're very clearly different from healthy brains, including in size. Why isn't that visible on an MRI or some other scan? Is something about those pictures misleading?
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Size and overall atrophy of the brain is clearly visible on CT, but is a normal finding with aging or other forms of neurocognitive decline. The extra space inside the skull from an atrophied brain is one reason that the elderly have much higher rates of intracranial bleeds from minor trauma as the brain has more freedom of motion to shear attached vessels.

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - fullmetal - 07-28-2017

(07-27-2017, 07:23 PM)2006alum link Wrote:Respectfully, for readability, would it be possible to dispense with the all caps?

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - johnnyo53 - 07-28-2017

(07-28-2017, 07:24 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:[quote author=2006alum link=topic=17092.msg196136#msg196136 date=1501208598]
Respectfully, for readability, would it be possible to dispense with the all caps?

Ahh no...that is just how johnnyo operates.Â Not worth fighting over...Â ::)Â You can also imagine that he is actually yelling these things into cyberspace...and you would not be far from the truth ;)
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SCREAMING ACTUALLY, LOLÂ I WOULD SUGGEST SHE STAND FARTHER AWAY FROM HER MONITOR

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - BostonCard - 07-28-2017

I wonder if the board's all-powerful software has a fix for that.Â It seems to have found good fixes for some of our opponents' names, as well as certain 4-letter Anglo-Saxon derived words.

BC

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - CompSci87 - 07-28-2017

Hmm, automatically change posts that are in all caps to lower case? Tempting...

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - Extra Point - 07-28-2017

(07-28-2017, 06:49 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Hmm, automatically change posts that are in all caps to lower case? Tempting...

Please do it!

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - stupac2 - 07-29-2017

(07-28-2017, 06:49 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Hmm, automatically change posts that are in all caps to lower case? Tempting...

How does the filter work? On past boards it's just been a literal (perhaps case-insensitive) match, but if you can do regex then you can probably do a conversion.

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - 2006alum - 07-29-2017

(07-28-2017, 07:07 PM)Extra Point link Wrote:[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=17092.msg196193#msg196193 date=1501292985]
Hmm, automatically change posts that are in all caps to lower case? Tempting...

Please do it!
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+1! Everybody wins that way.

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - CompSci87 - 07-29-2017

(07-29-2017, 07:40 AM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=CompSci87 link=topic=17092.msg196193#msg196193 date=1501292985]
Hmm, automatically change posts that are in all caps to lower case? Tempting...

How does the filter work? On past boards it's just been a literal (perhaps case-insensitive) match, but if you can do regex then you can probably do a conversion.
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I couldn't use the existing filter; I'd have to write some additional PHP code.

I don't really want to cramp the style of johnnyo's online persona that much, though.Â ;)

Re: OT: 48 of 53 college football players' donated brains had CTE - dabigv13 - 07-29-2017

You'd have to adjust for things like placing a lowercase letter or word at the start of a post, or perhaps more complicated things like mixing in lower case and upper case words throughout. Perhaps any string of all-caps longer than 5 words triggers it?