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Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - SamuelMcF - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 12:25 PM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
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Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - SamuelMcF - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 12:25 PM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
[/quote]

Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - stupac2 - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 10:18 AM)JPRI link Wrote:Who knows, but if you read the article referenced above about him he has been working with a private QB coach since he was nine years old. Given that, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if were for sports.

Well, could be, but the decision to be held back was probably made earlier than that. I wouldn't assume anything about him because he's old for his grade.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - stupac2 - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 10:18 AM)JPRI link Wrote:Who knows, but if you read the article referenced above about him he has been working with a private QB coach since he was nine years old. Given that, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if were for sports.

Well, could be, but the decision to be held back was probably made earlier than that. I wouldn't assume anything about him because he's old for his grade.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Mick - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 12:33 PM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:[quote author=Mick link=topic=18671.msg223561#msg223561 date=1518204327]
[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
[/quote]

Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.
[/quote]

I begged my dad to take a gap year, even (gasp!) save money for college.  He wouldn't hear of it, but then, I think he wanted me out of the house as  his wife and I did not precisely see eye to eye.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Mick - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 12:33 PM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:[quote author=Mick link=topic=18671.msg223561#msg223561 date=1518204327]
[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
[/quote]

Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.
[/quote]

I begged my dad to take a gap year, even (gasp!) save money for college.  He wouldn't hear of it, but then, I think he wanted me out of the house as  his wife and I did not precisely see eye to eye.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Hank 91 - 02-09-2018

Here's my perspective as a middle school teacher. Even in my seventh grade classroom, I can often tell who the early birthdays are, at least with the boys. That being said, in California public schools it isn't easy to repeat a grade, even if you have legitimate concerns. What some parents will do is pull their child from the public school (eighth grade is common), find a private school willing to take the child as an eighth grader, and then return to the public district for high school. I see this happening from time to time, and in my experience it is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS for athletic reasons. I have an eighth grader on my basketball team right now who happens to have an early birthday, but he's possibly going to repeat eighth grade somewhere, but for basketball. The story will be the early birthday, but the carrot is a basketball scholarship. We'll see.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Hank 91 - 02-09-2018

Here's my perspective as a middle school teacher. Even in my seventh grade classroom, I can often tell who the early birthdays are, at least with the boys. That being said, in California public schools it isn't easy to repeat a grade, even if you have legitimate concerns. What some parents will do is pull their child from the public school (eighth grade is common), find a private school willing to take the child as an eighth grader, and then return to the public district for high school. I see this happening from time to time, and in my experience it is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS for athletic reasons. I have an eighth grader on my basketball team right now who happens to have an early birthday, but he's possibly going to repeat eighth grade somewhere, but for basketball. The story will be the early birthday, but the carrot is a basketball scholarship. We'll see.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - qwerty49 - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 03:23 PM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=18671.msg223563#msg223563 date=1518204816]
[quote author=Mick link=topic=18671.msg223561#msg223561 date=1518204327]
[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
[/quote]

Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.
[/quote]

I begged my dad to take a gap year, even (gasp!) save money for college.  He wouldn't hear of it, but then, I think he wanted me out of the house as  his wife and I did not precisely see eye to eye.
[/quote]

I would have loved to take a gap year, it would have been the right thing for me.  But the chances were pretty darn high that it would have been spent in Vietnam, and I wasn't exactly excited about that.  My cousin was an AF mechanic at some base near Da Nang.  Sometimes he would end a paragraph of a letter with something like "well, they just stopped the mortar attack on the airstrip so I have to get back out there and go back to work."  Thank goodness, there was always a next paragraph.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - qwerty49 - 02-09-2018

(02-09-2018, 03:23 PM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=18671.msg223563#msg223563 date=1518204816]
[quote author=Mick link=topic=18671.msg223561#msg223561 date=1518204327]
[quote author=Papa John link=topic=18671.msg223553#msg223553 date=1518203021]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=18671.msg223534#msg223534 date=1518195226]
A lot of boys are held back for educational reasons. If he has a fall birthday it's probably that rather than sports.

My son has an October birthday and, at the time, would have been eligible for kindergarten when he was four-turning-five. His preschool teacher strongly recommended that we hold him back for social reasons--in fact, she recommended the same thing for the other fall birthday boys in his class. In any case, instead of being the youngest in his elementary school class, he's fourth-oldest, and it's definitely worked out for the better, IMO.

The sports leagues in which my son participates--Little League, club baseball, AYSO--set their divisions by age, not grade, even at the all-star level. Maybe it's different with football, though.
[/quote]

Papa John, FWLIW, I think you made a great decision.  I was an October birthday and was skipped a grade, so was my father in law.  We both agreed that if there was one "do-over" we could have in our life, it would have been that.  I was a 16 year old high school senior, 17 as a frosh.  My son was also born on the border, and even though my wife vehemently wanted him to start early, it's one of the few times in my marriage that I absolutely put my foot down, and it turned out for the best.
[/quote]

Same here. October birthday, 17 as a frosh. Would start elementary a year later, or take a gap year before starting at Stanford, if I had a do-over.
[/quote]

I begged my dad to take a gap year, even (gasp!) save money for college.  He wouldn't hear of it, but then, I think he wanted me out of the house as  his wife and I did not precisely see eye to eye.
[/quote]

I would have loved to take a gap year, it would have been the right thing for me.  But the chances were pretty darn high that it would have been spent in Vietnam, and I wasn't exactly excited about that.  My cousin was an AF mechanic at some base near Da Nang.  Sometimes he would end a paragraph of a letter with something like "well, they just stopped the mortar attack on the airstrip so I have to get back out there and go back to work."  Thank goodness, there was always a next paragraph.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - BostonCard - 02-09-2018

I was very late; a late November birthday who was enrolled in school when the cutoff was Dec. 1.  I enrolled at Stanford at 17.  It worked out fine for me academically, but I was an athletic and social laggard.

BC


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - BostonCard - 02-09-2018

I was very late; a late November birthday who was enrolled in school when the cutoff was Dec. 1.  I enrolled at Stanford at 17.  It worked out fine for me academically, but I was an athletic and social laggard.

BC


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - DC 86 - 02-09-2018

I also enrolled at Stanford at 17, didn't turn 18 until mid-winter quarter. Worked out fine but I'm not sure what the rush was; a gap year would have been a great experience and probably would have enriched my time in college too.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - DC 86 - 02-09-2018

I also enrolled at Stanford at 17, didn't turn 18 until mid-winter quarter. Worked out fine but I'm not sure what the rush was; a gap year would have been a great experience and probably would have enriched my time in college too.


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Papa John - 02-09-2018

And I skipped 2nd grade, so, like a number of posters on this thread, I entered Stanford as a 17 year-old. At the time, I couldn't wait to leave Manhattan, KS and see California (I had never been west of Kansas before that). I turned 18 during finals week of winter quarter, which was not fun. Looking back, I wish I had another year of maturing before I headed off to get in touch with my inner hippie  :P


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - Papa John - 02-09-2018

And I skipped 2nd grade, so, like a number of posters on this thread, I entered Stanford as a 17 year-old. At the time, I couldn't wait to leave Manhattan, KS and see California (I had never been west of Kansas before that). I turned 18 during finals week of winter quarter, which was not fun. Looking back, I wish I had another year of maturing before I headed off to get in touch with my inner hippie  :P


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - JJJ - 02-10-2018

(02-09-2018, 10:43 PM)Papa John link Wrote:And I skipped 2nd grade, so, like a number of posters on this thread, I entered Stanford as a 17 year-old. At the time, I couldn't wait to leave Manhattan, KS and see California (I had never been west of Kansas before that). I turned 18 during finals week of winter quarter, which was not fun. Looking back, I wish I had another year of maturing before I headed off to get in touch with my inner hippie  :P

You turned out okay, so we're all good.  My enduring memory is your rendition of "Flirtin' With Disaster" on a single acoustic guitar at a Roble study break! Epic. 8)


Re: $C reloads with a HS junior - JJJ - 02-10-2018

(02-09-2018, 10:43 PM)Papa John link Wrote:And I skipped 2nd grade, so, like a number of posters on this thread, I entered Stanford as a 17 year-old. At the time, I couldn't wait to leave Manhattan, KS and see California (I had never been west of Kansas before that). I turned 18 during finals week of winter quarter, which was not fun. Looking back, I wish I had another year of maturing before I headed off to get in touch with my inner hippie  :P

You turned out okay, so we're all good.  My enduring memory is your rendition of "Flirtin' With Disaster" on a single acoustic guitar at a Roble study break! Epic. 8)