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Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - yvonne - 04-14-2018
(04-13-2018, 12:51 PM)BobK link Wrote: .... However it is very common for a Stanford student to not get into the graduate program of their choice.  I have had conversations with two Stanford athletes who had another year of eligibility who didnt get into the grad program of their choice and went elsewhere for their final year. Both had very successful athletic years and got their masters
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Pretty much what cal fans said when Brennan Scarlett transferred.
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - CTcard - 04-14-2018
(04-13-2018, 01:07 PM)Boston Card link Wrote: Brings up the question... who has been the most successful graduate transfer out of the program?
Young as you mentioned was hardly used at Boise State
Reihner was mostly a special teams guy at Penn State
Patrick Skov was used as a fullback at Ga Tech, where he started 8 games and played in 11. However, his stats were very meh and his touches went down as the season progressed. He had 93 rushes for 377 yards in 11 games, but tied for the team lead in rushing touchdowns with 6, and added two more touchdown catches.
Lyons as CTCard found did not find much playing time at Michigan
Dudchock had 17 receptions for 261 yards and a touchdown at Vanderbilt
Hopkins started 11 out of 12 games for Virginia, but had 11 catches for 90 yards and two TDs
Overall, none of our graduate outbound transfers became stars. I'd say Skov probably had the best graduate transfer career. But even though we have only taken one graduate transfer in (Brennan Scarlett), he had a bigger impact on our 2015 than any of the guys who transferred out.
BC
I'd go with Charlie Hopkins, at least as far as surprising me with how well he did as a grad transfer.
[However, I had previously mixed Hopkins (who was the regular starter for Virginia - not quite a powerhouse program) and Kevin Reihner (who went to Penn State, a powerhouse program and saw more playing time than at Stanford but not that much). ]
You have to remember that catching passes is only part of a TE's game, and that was not the key part for Hopkins - he was more of a blocker.
His career took a significant uptick at UVa. He never started a game at Stanford as far as I can tell, and only played regularly his junior (red-shirt sophomore) year. He had two career catches. I think he was mainly remembered as being the target on the ill-fated, penultimate play in our unsuccessful comeback vs Utah in 2013.
I think that for him, going to a Power-5 school, becoming the starter at his position, almost quadrupling his career reception total, and hopefully getting a quality Masters degree in the bargain would look like an awfully good deal.Â
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Dudchock I was less surprised with as he had flashed some ability, and was easier to see as he was more of a pass catcher. He did go from 5 career receptions at Stanford to 17 in a year at Vandy, and then went on to be a grad-assistant with the coaching staff there - so presumably was pretty happy with the place.
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 04-18-2018
(04-12-2018, 08:16 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote: Hey, good for him! He wasn't likely to be "the guy" for us this season, he gets a Stanford degree, and he also gets to be a football player for LSU, which has to feel pretty cool for a Louisiana kid. I hope his final season goes better than Barry Sanders the Younger's season in Stillwater. I was rooting for Barry there, and it was a similarly cool way to end a collegiate football career for a kid, but it just didn't pan out for him.
Anyone know what degree program he'll be pursuing?
I have met his family through football viewing parties in New Orleans. His father has advised that Terrence will be pursuing an MBA at LSU.
There's a good chance he'll be putting his Stanford education to work right here in Louisiana!
Geaux Cardinal! Geaux Tigers!
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BobK - 04-18-2018
Great to hear.  Thanks
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - kuz - 04-19-2018
(04-14-2018, 09:38 AM)CTcard link Wrote: [quote author=Boston Card link=topic=19003.msg227861#msg227861 date=1523650058]
Brings up the question... who has been the most successful graduate transfer out of the program?
Young as you mentioned was hardly used at Boise State
Reihner was mostly a special teams guy at Penn State
Patrick Skov was used as a fullback at Ga Tech, where he started 8 games and played in 11. However, his stats were very meh and his touches went down as the season progressed. He had 93 rushes for 377 yards in 11 games, but tied for the team lead in rushing touchdowns with 6, and added two more touchdown catches.
Lyons as CTCard found did not find much playing time at Michigan
Dudchock had 17 receptions for 261 yards and a touchdown at Vanderbilt
Hopkins started 11 out of 12 games for Virginia, but had 11 catches for 90 yards and two TDs
Overall, none of our graduate outbound transfers became stars. I'd say Skov probably had the best graduate transfer career. But even though we have only taken one graduate transfer in (Brennan Scarlett), he had a bigger impact on our 2015 than any of the guys who transferred out.
BC
I'd go with Charlie Hopkins, at least as far as surprising me with how well he did as a grad transfer.
[However, I had previously mixed Hopkins (who was the regular starter for Virginia - not quite a powerhouse program) and Kevin Reihner (who went to Penn State, a powerhouse program and saw more playing time than at Stanford but not that much). ]
You have to remember that catching passes is only part of a TE's game, and that was not the key part for Hopkins - he was more of a blocker.
His career took a significant uptick at UVa. He never started a game at Stanford as far as I can tell, and only played regularly his junior (red-shirt sophomore) year. He had two career catches. I think he was mainly remembered as being the target on the ill-fated, penultimate play in our unsuccessful comeback vs Utah in 2013.
I think that for him, going to a Power-5 school, becoming the starter at his position, almost quadrupling his career reception total, and hopefully getting a quality Masters degree in the bargain would look like an awfully good deal.Â
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Dudchock I was less surprised with as he had flashed some ability, and was easier to see as he was more of a pass catcher. He did go from 5 career receptions at Stanford to 17 in a year at Vandy, and then went on to be a grad-assistant with the coaching staff there - so presumably was pretty happy with the place.
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Hopkins was often injured at Stanford, and moved between DE and TE.
As far as our transfers have gone, their contributions at Stanford probably rank as follows:
Lyons was a starter at Stanford for a while before being benched by Akina, and didn't do much at Michigan.
Sanders was solid as McCaffrey's backup in 2015.
Young was in a timeshare at RB in 2014 but also saw his role diminish as the season went on. As an aside, I thought he was our second most physically gifted RB that year, behind a true freshman McCaffrey but ahead of Sanders, Seale, and Wright - he had the acceleration and some power, but not the patience and the vision.
Skov was a key special teams player.
Dudchock, Hopkins, Reihner, and Jordan didn't seem much playing time.
This year's transfers (Chryst, Tucker, and Alexander) have seen a lot of playing time - Tucker as a two-year starter, Chryst over the last two seasons, Alexander (probably less than Lyons) as a key backup CB. Tucker surely will start at ASU and Chryst has a solid chance at Tennessee (their QBs were dreadful last year). I wouldn't be shocked if Alexander ends up with a Lyons-like fifth year, but also he could be a key contributor.
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - winflop - 04-19-2018
Don't know how important playing time is to Tucker & Chryst, but I got the sense from the article that he values being close to home and getting a Masters degree (at least partly paid-for) as well as an opportunity to play the game he loves as he's done for most of his life. But my sense is that the first two are more important than the third.
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BostonCard - 04-19-2018
(04-19-2018, 04:02 AM)kuz link Wrote: [quote author=CTcard link=topic=19003.msg227922#msg227922 date=1523723907]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=19003.msg227861#msg227861 date=1523650058]
Brings up the question... who has been the most successful graduate transfer out of the program?
Young as you mentioned was hardly used at Boise State
Reihner was mostly a special teams guy at Penn State
Patrick Skov was used as a fullback at Ga Tech, where he started 8 games and played in 11. However, his stats were very meh and his touches went down as the season progressed. He had 93 rushes for 377 yards in 11 games, but tied for the team lead in rushing touchdowns with 6, and added two more touchdown catches.
Lyons as CTCard found did not find much playing time at Michigan
Dudchock had 17 receptions for 261 yards and a touchdown at Vanderbilt
Hopkins started 11 out of 12 games for Virginia, but had 11 catches for 90 yards and two TDs
Overall, none of our graduate outbound transfers became stars. I'd say Skov probably had the best graduate transfer career. But even though we have only taken one graduate transfer in (Brennan Scarlett), he had a bigger impact on our 2015 than any of the guys who transferred out.
BC
I'd go with Charlie Hopkins, at least as far as surprising me with how well he did as a grad transfer.
[However, I had previously mixed Hopkins (who was the regular starter for Virginia - not quite a powerhouse program) and Kevin Reihner (who went to Penn State, a powerhouse program and saw more playing time than at Stanford but not that much). ]
You have to remember that catching passes is only part of a TE's game, and that was not the key part for Hopkins - he was more of a blocker.
His career took a significant uptick at UVa. He never started a game at Stanford as far as I can tell, and only played regularly his junior (red-shirt sophomore) year. He had two career catches. I think he was mainly remembered as being the target on the ill-fated, penultimate play in our unsuccessful comeback vs Utah in 2013.
I think that for him, going to a Power-5 school, becoming the starter at his position, almost quadrupling his career reception total, and hopefully getting a quality Masters degree in the bargain would look like an awfully good deal.Â
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Dudchock I was less surprised with as he had flashed some ability, and was easier to see as he was more of a pass catcher. He did go from 5 career receptions at Stanford to 17 in a year at Vandy, and then went on to be a grad-assistant with the coaching staff there - so presumably was pretty happy with the place.
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Hopkins was often injured at Stanford, and moved between DE and TE.
As far as our transfers have gone, their contributions at Stanford probably rank as follows:
Lyons was a starter at Stanford for a while before being benched by Akina, and didn't do much at Michigan.
Sanders was solid as McCaffrey's backup in 2015.
Young was in a timeshare at RB in 2014 but also saw his role diminish as the season went on. As an aside, I thought he was our second most physically gifted RB that year, behind a true freshman McCaffrey but ahead of Sanders, Seale, and Wright - he had the acceleration and some power, but not the patience and the vision.
Skov was a key special teams player.
Dudchock, Hopkins, Reihner, and Jordan didn't seem much playing time.
This year's transfers (Chryst, Tucker, and Alexander) have seen a lot of playing time - Tucker as a two-year starter, Chryst over the last two seasons, Alexander (probably less than Lyons) as a key backup CB. Tucker surely will start at ASU and Chryst has a solid chance at Tennessee (their QBs were dreadful last year). I wouldn't be shocked if Alexander ends up with a Lyons-like fifth year, but also he could be a key contributor.
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Skov was more than just a key special teams player; he played fullback as well.
BC
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - 2006alum - 04-19-2018
(04-18-2018, 07:22 AM)BigEasyCard link Wrote: [quote author=ColoradoTree link=topic=19003.msg227766#msg227766 date=1523546197]
Hey, good for him! He wasn't likely to be "the guy" for us this season, he gets a Stanford degree, and he also gets to be a football player for LSU, which has to feel pretty cool for a Louisiana kid. I hope his final season goes better than Barry Sanders the Younger's season in Stillwater. I was rooting for Barry there, and it was a similarly cool way to end a collegiate football career for a kid, but it just didn't pan out for him.
Anyone know what degree program he'll be pursuing?
I have met his family through football viewing parties in New Orleans. His father has advised that Terrence will be pursuing an MBA at LSU.
There's a good chance he'll be putting his Stanford education to work right here in Louisiana!
Geaux Cardinal! Geaux Tigers!
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BigEasy, was in your city this past weekend for the first time for a bachelor party and loved it. Though many problems obviously remain, the recovery from Katrina was admirable to see, and the city had such a great spirit to it. The open container law also brought back many happy memories from my Stanford days when we could have "moveable feasts" and take the party on the road! Definitely a one-of-a-kind American city and culture.
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - kuz - 04-19-2018
(04-19-2018, 03:40 PM)Boston Card link Wrote: Skov was more than just a key special teams player; he played fullback as well.True, but he didn't get much playing time as a fullback (he was behind Hewitt then Ward).
BC
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 04-20-2018
(04-19-2018, 03:54 PM)2006alum link Wrote: [quote author=BigEasyCard link=topic=19003.msg228129#msg228129 date=1524061364]
[quote author=ColoradoTree link=topic=19003.msg227766#msg227766 date=1523546197]
Hey, good for him! He wasn't likely to be "the guy" for us this season, he gets a Stanford degree, and he also gets to be a football player for LSU, which has to feel pretty cool for a Louisiana kid. I hope his final season goes better than Barry Sanders the Younger's season in Stillwater. I was rooting for Barry there, and it was a similarly cool way to end a collegiate football career for a kid, but it just didn't pan out for him.
Anyone know what degree program he'll be pursuing?
I have met his family through football viewing parties in New Orleans. His father has advised that Terrence will be pursuing an MBA at LSU.
There's a good chance he'll be putting his Stanford education to work right here in Louisiana!
Geaux Cardinal! Geaux Tigers!
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BigEasy, was in your city this past weekend for the first time for a bachelor party and loved it. Though many problems obviously remain, the recovery from Katrina was admirable to see, and the city had such a great spirit to it. The open container law also brought back many happy memories from my Stanford days when we could have "moveable feasts" and take the party on the road! Definitely a one-of-a-kind American city and culture.
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2006, glad to hear that you decided "to be in that number" and enjoyed your visit. Being here during French Quarter Fest was an excellent choice. Despite its faults and challenges which become apparent when one lives here, we get to enjoy the good stuff every day.Â
Through the years we have met many visiting Stanford alums, including fullmetal, at our football viewing parties at The Blind Pelican.
Geaux Cardinal!
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - Phogge - 04-20-2018
Viva Cafe Du Monde! Viva Mothers!
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 07:06 AM)Phogge link Wrote: Viva Cafe Du Monde! Viva Mothers!Â
Agreed. Both great!
Tall Ships and an aircraft carrier in town this weekend as part of the New Orleans Tricentennial celebration. And the Pelicans seek their fourth consecutive playoff victory against the Trailblazers tomorrow night.
Then Jazz Fest for next two weekends.Â
Geaux Cardinal!
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - qwerty49 - 04-20-2018
(04-20-2018, 07:44 AM)BigEasyCard link Wrote: [quote author=Phogge link=topic=19003.msg228198#msg228198 date=1524233177]Â
Viva Cafe Du Monde! Viva Mothers!
Agreed. Both great!
Tall Ships and an aircraft carrier in town this weekend as part of the New Orleans Tricentennial celebration. And the Pelicans seek their fourth consecutive playoff victory against the Trailblazers tomorrow night.
Then Jazz Fest for next two weekends.Â
Geaux Cardinal!
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Sigh. We had tix for Jazz Fest the year Stevie Wonder was supposed to play and it got rained out. We ended up walking all the way back to the French Quarter since traffic wiped out most taxis and rideshares. But the street music was great and we still had a great time!
Re: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BobK - 04-20-2018
I never made it to Frog Man Henry's Place. To my brobdingnagian regret
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 06-22-2018
Terrence Alexander cleared for LSU team meetings:
https://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2018/06/lsu_football_terrence_alexande_1.html
Wishing him all the best this season with the Tigers.
But still, Geaux Cardinal!
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - fullmetal - 06-26-2018
(04-13-2018, 11:12 AM)BigEasyCard Wrote: One of my great Stanford football memories is seeing New Orleanians Terrence Alexander and Jay Tyler line up next to each other to receive a kickoff late in the 2016 game at Oregon. Their Dads played together on the same high school football team two decades earlier.
This is amazing. What a treat for the two families.
I'm late to this thread, but The Blind Pelican is a great game-watching location -- the oyster specials are probably the best of any Stanford alumni game-watch location :) BigEasyCard is also a great host!
Wayne Lyons might have also decided to cash in on the Michigan experience and play in front of amazing crowds, both home and away, and play against an entirely new conference of storied teams (though if Michigan played Notre Dame, he got a retread there). Also, iirc, his mom landed a job at Michigan at the same time, so he would have been closer to family (and she might have gotten to see him play whatever few minutes he played). Stanford was certainly a far enough journey from Fort Lauderdale.
More so now than maybe when Lyons was a student-athlete -- the kids these days are very aware of the difference college athletics experiences their peers get at different colleges. Maybe there's a bit of FOMO going on when Stanford recruits see the enormous student bodies turn out for games or when nationally-adulated teams get regular air time. Stanford's always battled uphill for recognition and respect...maybe the kids want to dip their toes in that pool after getting a Stanford degree. As long as they remember Stanford in their donations and think of themselves as primarily Stanford alumni, I guess I'm okay with that ;)
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - Mick - 06-30-2018
(06-26-2018, 10:48 AM)fullmetal Wrote: Wayne Lyons might have also decided to cash in on the Michigan experience and play in front of amazing crowds, both home and away, and play against an entirely new conference of storied teams (though if Michigan played Notre Dame, he got a retread there). Also, iirc, his mom landed a job at Michigan at the same time, so he would have been closer to family (and she might have gotten to see him play whatever few minutes he played). Stanford was certainly a far enough journey from Fort Lauderdale.
More so now than maybe when Lyons was a student-athlete -- the kids these days are very aware of the difference college athletics experiences their peers get at different colleges. Maybe there's a bit of FOMO going on when Stanford recruits see the enormous student bodies turn out for games or when nationally-adulated teams get regular air time. Stanford's always battled uphill for recognition and respect...maybe the kids want to dip their toes in that pool after getting a Stanford degree. As long as they remember Stanford in their donations and think of themselves as primarily Stanford alumni, I guess I'm okay with that ;)
Having been to 1/2 dozen home UM games at the Big House, I can tell you it's a very different experience. Reminds me a little bit of the 85k Stanford football attracted in the 1970s and 1980s against SC and C.al. My Beaver brother came out for UM's home opener against Oregon State, which was the first UM game I attended. Amazing experience. Great tailgating, superb fans (Michigan State and Ohio State are another story). And I'd say there were around 5,000 Oregon State fans at the game. It's quite an experience.
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 08-05-2018
Latest on Terrence Alexander from The Baton Rouge Advocate:
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_f690ae84-97f5-11e8-8eaa-d35bc822567b.html
Looks like the 40-year decision will work out fine for him.
The article also mentions Herb Tyler, father of Jay Tyler.
Geaux Cardinal!
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - SamuelMcF - 08-05-2018
(08-05-2018, 08:47 AM)BigEasyCard Wrote: Latest on Terrence Alexander from The Baton Rouge Advocate:
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_f690ae84-97f5-11e8-8eaa-d35bc822567b.html
Looks like the 40-year decision will work out fine for him.
The article also mentions Herb Tyler, father of Jay Tyler.
Geaux Cardinal!
Would Alexander really not have gotten significant playing time for us this year? Especially with both Reid and Meeks gone? How the heck would he start at LSU but not at Stanford?
Or was he not accepted to the coterm of his choice?
RE: Terrence Alexander to LSU - BigEasyCard - 08-05-2018
His outlook for 2018 playing time was/is speculative at both Stanford and LSU.
I don't know what academic options, if any, that he pursued to stay at Stanford. His father has told me (and granted permission to post here) that Terrence will pursue his MBA at LSU.
Geaux Cardinal!