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RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - SamuelMcF - 01-23-2021

Coach Haase was in tears. You can see it towards the end of the tweet linked by BC above.

Beating the top team in the Pac down 3 starters. Wow.

lex24 - lex24 - 01-23-2021

Amazing win. Incredibly satisfying for Haase I’m sure. They made mistakes down the stretch no question. But much if not all of it can be attributed to not having the people available who you want on the floor at that part of the game.

Had they lost this game it would’ve been a shame because, well because of all sorts of things, but that call on O’Connell on the drive was absurd. A ticky tack foul in the last couple seconds of the game. Pac 12 refs never cease to amaze with their incompetence.

I had posted after about 10 minutes that they were playing their butts off but I didn’t think they could sustain it. From an effort perspective I don’t know if you can get more than they gave today .

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - BostonCard - 01-23-2021

Some other highlights:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordMBB/status/1353135599977283586?s=20[/tweet]

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BC

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Nan3cy - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 05:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Great inbounds play and you gotta give Haase and McConnell and Da Silva props for drawing it up. But also, if you are UCLA, how the hell do you lose Da Silva in traffic. He's only, I don't know, arguably the best player in the conference. Perhaps its karma for the "jackass UCLA coach".

BC

I thought maybe it was karma for the women’s loss.

lex24 - lex24 - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 05:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Great inbounds play and you gotta give Haase and McConnell and Da Silva props for drawing it up. But also, if you are UCLA, how the hell do you lose Da Silva in traffic. He's only, I don't know, arguably the best player in the conference. Perhaps its karma for the "jackass UCLA coach".

BC

Weakside player down low got lost.

RE: lex24 - BostonCard - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 05:44 PM)lex24 Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 05:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Great inbounds play and you gotta give Haase and McConnell and Da Silva props for drawing it up. But also, if you are UCLA, how the hell do you lose Da Silva in traffic. He's only, I don't know, arguably the best player in the conference. Perhaps its karma for the "jackass UCLA coach".

BC

Weakside player down low got lost.

He got pulled by Spencer Jones running out to the three point line but got caught in no man's land. With 0.8 seconds left and a 1 point deficit, he should not have bothered thinking about Jones. BTW, you can tell by his reaction after the play was over that he knew he blew it. Totally slammed the ball into the ground (had the game not been over, it would have been an easy T).

BC

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - needle - 01-23-2021

Much credit to Delaire, who really came through as that second scorer and also had a thunderous dunk in OT on a rare fast break opportunity, and Kisunas, who stepped up to have his best game maybe ever.

I also enjoyed watching Michael O'Connell, who played far from flawless but nevertheless gets a lot of credit for not only the inbounds to da Silva on the final play but also steady ballhandling and at least a willingness to take a shot.

Really it's a team win where all contribute when it's about defense, as this game was throughout regulation. I'm back on the bandwagon in believing this team can make the NCAAs.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - SamuelMcF - 01-23-2021

In the last 6 games, Michael O'Connell's A:TO ratio is 26:4.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Blue Hawk (Mizzou) Card - 01-23-2021

Just so nobody can claim that I only complain about the officiating when Stanford loses:

There were four "could go either way" calls in end of game situations:

1. Was Oscar fouled at the end of regulation? To my eyes, the only real question was whether two Ucla guys fouled him or three. Probably only two. But one should be enough.

2. Ticky tack and one call in favor of Ucla to let them get the lead at the line in overtime. Yes, there was contact, but not as much as at the end of regulation on Oscar, and he missed. How can you give an and one on that when there was no call at the end of regulation?

3. Non call on Ucla goaltending. From my admittedly biased slow-mo review after the game, that ball is on its way down. Admittedly, it's close, but it looks post-peak to me.

4. Ucla kid hits Oscar IN THE SIDE OF HIS HEAD on the game winning play while trying to block from behind (which, admittedly, is technically legal if there is no contact but is often enough standing alone to result in a foul call). No sign that any official was going to call it. [Of course, that one did not matter, but it sure would have if Oscar missed.]

Four end of game calls that could go either way. UCLA gets ALL FOUR calls. What an amazing coincidence! [Yes, they are the top team in the league. But I did not see similar treatment yesterday for the (then) top team on the women's side.] If any of the three calls that mattered go our way, we win the game without the drama, so I guess I should be glad they all went against us.

It happens year after year with UCLA. When was the game in Pauley with no call on an obvious end of game foul by UCLA, then a call on less contact on the other end of the floor? I had the prints of those two situations in my desk for a while, IIRC, but I don't have them anymore.

Of course, it does not matter. Our kids overcame the end of game officiating. But don't ever tell me that officiating never has an effect. Basketball officiating is a difficult job that is often done very badly. [By the way, if you are a person who believes no attention should be paid to officiating and no criticism should be directed to them, I highly recommend that you stay that way! I wish I still thought officiating was fair. It makes watching games a lot more fun. Once you start noticing the effect of officiating, it takes some of the fun out of watching sports. It is one of the nice things about watching golf, though. No real effect of officials in that game.]

What really matters is that the end of game officiating made this an even more gutsy win by the good guys. If we are honest, all of us have had our frustrations with the men's team for things like trips to the mountains. But to be down three starters and win that game is really something. That was GUTSY! [Other parts of the anatomy come to mind, but I will leave it as "gutsy."]

Go Stanford!

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - BostonCard - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 06:04 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: In the last 6 games, Michael O'Connell's A:TO ratio is 26:4.

5 assists without a turnover today; overall that puts him at 26:10, I believe, which is I think the only player on the team with a ratio above 2.

BC

Mizzou (Good to see you!) I agree with you on those specific plays, but overall we shot 24 free throws to their 14, and had only 12 personal fouls to their 20.

BC

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Farm93 - 01-23-2021

The win was great, but it appears the never ending road show will start impacting both basketball teams (men's and women's).

Yes, some players and coaches can maintain their level even without trips to home.
However, some players and coaches might be unable to stay at the same level when unable to stay in their homes, visit with family, etc.

As it is a team game, even a few impacted by the never ending road show might be too much.

The Men's team was great today, but even if this thing falls apart it would be hard to blame our basketball staff this season. Same perspective would be true on the women's side - FWIW.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - JJJ - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 05:32 PM)burger Wrote:
(01-23-2021, 02:47 PM)burger Wrote: I wasn't going to do any more of these again this season, but Davis, Wills, and Williams are out today, so I doubt my bad luck with starting these threads is really going to do any additional damage.

I'll take all the remaining game threads this year :)

Exactly what I was thinking after I digested that sweet sweet victory over a ranked UCLA team without 3 of our starters. Amazing. Today is a good day!

(01-23-2021, 05:39 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: Coach Haase was in tears. You can see it towards the end of the tweet linked by BC above.

Beating the top team in the Pac down 3 starters. Wow.

He wasn't the only one.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Phogge - 01-23-2021

O'Connell is a comer but he couldn't handle the big hair guy (don't know his name) in the last few minutes.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Hulk01 - 01-23-2021

An incredible effort.
Haase's elation, even before that play, was vivid.
The social media universe is full of praise for his guys tonight.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Hurlburt88 - 01-23-2021

Great win!

Any sense of when our missing trio is returning? I saw Wills up and about but he did not seem to be moving at full speed. I thought I saw DD sitting once, but that was it; and originally it was his ankle then he played in a game and now it is a knee? and of course hope ZW's family situation is nothing serious.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - burger - 01-23-2021

I was trying to think of a more unexpected last-second win, and the only one that comes to mind is this one which is still mind-boggling to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTFXdJ6vtD0#t=53

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - JJJ - 01-23-2021

(01-23-2021, 06:55 PM)Phogge Wrote: O'Connell is a comer but he couldn't handle the big hair guy (don't know his name) in the last few minutes.

That would be Tyger Campbell. You'd think that he'd be even faster without that hair but what do I know.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - JJJ - 01-24-2021

Another nice (different) write-up (imo) by Channel Tree Sports.

Quote:Trailing 72-71 with 0.8 seconds remaining in an overtime period, head coach Jerod Haase knew exactly what play to call. After Thursday's game with USC was postponed, the Cardinal held an impromptu practice focusing on special situations, including a certain baseline out of bounds play.

"I told the guys you better know these things, I may not have a timeout," Haase said. Freshman point guard Michael O'Connell took the ball from the official, and Jaiden Delaire looped his way around a Lukas Kisunas and Oscar da Silva pick at the strong side elbow. As the referee's left arm counted the seconds, it was time for the secondary action.

"I was supposed to get the lob," said da Silva. "But they were aware of that and started yelling 'watch the lob, watch the lob.'" The senior captain thought about flaring out to the three point line, when UCLA guard Tyger Campbell took one step that direction, and it was all Oscar needed. "That space under the basket opened up, and I just went and tried to lay it up as quickly as I could."

https://www.channeltreesports.com/post/82

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Brickcity - 01-24-2021

(01-24-2021, 11:23 AM)JJJ Wrote: Another nice (different) write-up (imo) by Channel Tree Sports.

Quote:Trailing 72-71 with 0.8 seconds remaining in an overtime period, head coach Jerod Haase knew exactly what play to call. After Thursday's game with USC was postponed, the Cardinal held an impromptu practice focusing on special situations, including a certain baseline out of bounds play.

"I told the guys you better know these things, I may not have a timeout," Haase said. Freshman point guard Michael O'Connell took the ball from the official, and Jaiden Delaire looped his way around a Lukas Kisunas and Oscar da Silva pick at the strong side elbow. As the referee's left arm counted the seconds, it was time for the secondary action.

"I was supposed to get the lob," said da Silva. "But they were aware of that and started yelling 'watch the lob, watch the lob.'" The senior captain thought about flaring out to the three point line, when UCLA guard Tyger Campbell took one step that direction, and it was all Oscar needed. "That space under the basket opened up, and I just went and tried to lay it up as quickly as I could."

https://www.channeltreesports.com/post/82

Wonderful story. This guy is a great writer. BTW, how about Kisunas? He's now had a couple very good games in recent weeks. It was around this time last year that Delaire took off from being just promising to being pretty good. If Kisunas has turned the corner into "pretty good" territory, that would be a big boost to the team's prospects.

RE: MBB: UCLA @ Stanford, 2pm Saturday on Fox - Spiny_Norman - 01-24-2021

The win was extra special and extra emotional for Coach Haase.

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