Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net

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RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - needle - 02-03-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:00 PM)JJJ Wrote: That was a winnable game.

It was, but the better team won. What's frustrating is that Stanford has more talent...

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - Farm93 - 02-03-2022

That was a tough one to watch, and a game Stanford absolutely could not lose.

And yet, as we are in February now it fits the Haase pattern. Maybe Haase can break all prior year-end trends and finish strong and get that 11 or 12 seed.

Still believe that none of the Stanford coaches will be fired during this trying COVID academic year. It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

For those dreaming of a post-Shaw era, just remember how much Shaw has done and how little Haase has done on The Farm. If Haase still has a job as a non-alum without any real on court success, how many more losing seasons would Shaw, as an alum with historic seasons and multiple Pac12 COY awards, need to accumulate to get below Haase's current, apparently acceptable, level of coaching?

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - burger - 02-03-2022

The program is in permanent limbo now. Year after year, we're not bad enough to get Haase fired and not good enough to make the Tourney.

What a sucky time to be a MBB fan. Tons of individual talent, but it's squandered.

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - JJJ - 02-03-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:03 PM)PVTree Wrote:
(02-03-2022, 09:00 PM)JJJ Wrote: That was a winnable game.

That's the third winnable game that slips away (Colorado and Washington being the other 2).

True. What might’ve been…

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - murky - 02-03-2022

WSU made 3 more 3-pointers on 8 fewer attempts.

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - AlbanyCardinal - 02-03-2022

I like Ingram, but those two rushed 3-point tries he made in the final minutes killed any momentum we had. Everything was happening in the paint for us in that final stretch. Frustrating. But I won't put this loss on HI. It's squarely on Haase b/c we've seen this February-March slide just about every season. I stick to my edict: if this team doesn't dance this year, fire Haase. No more excuses. I only wish BM (fitting acronym) agreed.

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - BostonCard - 02-03-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:12 PM)burger Wrote: The program is in permanent limbo now. Year after year, we're not bad enough to get Haase fired and not good enough to make the Tourney.

What a sucky time to be a MBB fan. Tons of individual talent, but it's squandered.

Man, how our standards have fallen. Is aspiring to the NIT really “good enough” not to be fired? This is Haase’s sixth season now and he has one NIT to show for it, maybe a second this year?

BC

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - winflop - 02-03-2022

I’m

(02-03-2022, 10:24 PM)BostonCard Wrote:
(02-03-2022, 09:12 PM)burger Wrote: The program is in permanent limbo now. Year after year, we're not bad enough to get Haase fired and not good enough to make the Tourney.

What a sucky time to be a MBB fan. Tons of individual talent, but it's squandered.

Man, how our standards have fallen. Is aspiring to the NIT really “good enough” not to be fired? This is Haase’s sixth season now and he has one NIT to show for it, maybe a second this year?

BC

Not for me. NCAA or hit the road coach

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - JJJ - 02-04-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote: It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

This is worth repeating. So true. (Also for non-athletes.)

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - Phogge - 02-04-2022

Watched a bit of UCLA/Arizona. Stanford looks like a mediocre Juco compared to them. Not only is the party over for Haase but the party never started in his tenure.

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - 2006alum - 02-04-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Still believe that none of the Stanford coaches will be fired during this trying COVID academic year. It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

Curious if you could elaborate a bit more about this. Do you mean in terms of COVID protocols and yet another non-normal quarter? Or are there other aspects to the "current campus environment" that are making it more difficult? Thanks for any insight!

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - gailtate - 02-04-2022

(02-03-2022, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote: That was a tough one to watch, and a game Stanford absolutely could not lose.

And yet, as we are in February now it fits the Haase pattern. Maybe Haase can break all prior year-end trends and finish strong and get that 11 or 12 seed.

Still believe that none of the Stanford coaches will be fired during this trying COVID academic year. It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

For those dreaming of a post-Shaw era, just remember how much Shaw has done and how little Haase has done on The Farm. If Haase still has a job as a non-alum without any real on court success, how many more losing seasons would Shaw, as an alum with historic seasons and multiple Pac12 COY awards, need to accumulate to get below Haase's current, apparently acceptable, level of coaching?

I kinda get the point, but any sort of favorable comparison of Shaw to Haase is the definition of damnation with faint praise -- and an apple-to-orange comparison to say the least. BTW, I don't dream of a "post-Shaw era" so much as a post-SUCK era. A pipe dream, yes. As far as the sorry state of MBB, I dream of a return to Monty-ball. Another pipe dream to be sure, but it's tons more fun than watching Haase-ketball (AKA Haase-aff hoops).

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - winflop - 02-04-2022

(02-04-2022, 08:30 AM)gailtate Wrote:
(02-03-2022, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote: That was a tough one to watch, and a game Stanford absolutely could not lose.

And yet, as we are in February now it fits the Haase pattern. Maybe Haase can break all prior year-end trends and finish strong and get that 11 or 12 seed.

Still believe that none of the Stanford coaches will be fired during this trying COVID academic year. It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

For those dreaming of a post-Shaw era, just remember how much Shaw has done and how little Haase has done on The Farm. If Haase still has a job as a non-alum without any real on court success, how many more losing seasons would Shaw, as an alum with historic seasons and multiple Pac12 COY awards, need to accumulate to get below Haase's current, apparently acceptable, level of coaching?

I kinda get the point, but any sort of favorable comparison of Shaw to Haase is the definition of damnation with faint praise -- and an apple-to-orange comparison to say the least. BTW, I don't dream of a "post-Shaw era" so much as a post-SUCK era. A pipe dream, yes. As far as the sorry state of MBB, I dream of a return to Monty-ball. Another pipe dream to be sure, but it's tons more fun than watching Haase-ketball (AKA Haase-aff hoops).

I dream of winning football and winning men's basketball, and at this point I don't care if it's Haase and/or Shaw or their immediate successors, but I'm pretty sure that as long as the storeminder Muir is at the helm it's not gonna happen.

RE: Men's BB: Stanford vs WSU, Thursday @ 6 pm, Pac-12 Net - Sam Leopold - 02-04-2022

(02-04-2022, 12:06 AM)JJJ Wrote:
(02-03-2022, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote: It is so hard to be a Stanford student on campus, and many Stanford teams are playing below their typical levels. Stanford is always challenging. The school is really hard for student-athletes and the current campus environment is just so hard mentally, physically and academically on every athlete.

This is worth repeating. So true. (Also for non-athletes.)

While I'm sure there is merit in this viewpoint, the women's team faces the same conditions and is crushing everything.

Haase should be burning down to the end of his wick -- if he doesn't demonstrably show the ability to buck the late-season trend of most of his other years here, that should be grounds for adios. This starts on Sunday by handling a UW team that just came into Berkeley and slapped down the Cal team that we barely beat at home, a UW team that already has a win over Stanford and is arguably playing better ball than Stanford right now.