RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
81alum - 10-09-2022
(10-09-2022, 09:46 AM)TheWildJacko Wrote: I’m hoping for a lot more over-the-top style lob passes, in addition to our classic backdoor cuts, now that Betts is on the roster this year.
I do think lobs should be a big part of our repertoire, especially since we can put a very tall passer at the elbow--Prechtel etc.
Has anyone ever seen a team that never dribbled the ball to bring it up court, but only passed, similar to what is done by necessity to break the press? The thought has crossed my mind....
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
BostonCard - 10-09-2022
I think that would be more prone to turnovers, but it is just a guess.
BC
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
81alum - 10-09-2022
(10-09-2022, 12:24 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I think that would be more prone to turnovers, but it is just a guess.
BC
Its just what we practice for breaking the press.
Interestingly, early women's basketball banned dribbling or moving with the ball and thus was essentially a passing game. This developed into modern "netball" which is still played in a few corners of the world.
I suppose if a player is unopposed when bringing the ball up the court, then anyone could do it. If on the other hand they are being pressed, then we have always used our break-press tactics and passed out of it.
But what if our ball carrier is just being harassed by one quick defender? That is where I wonder if we can start moving the ball upcourt with passes more fluidly rather than relying on a gifted dribbler like Williams to dribble through the pressure.
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
stopandpop - 10-09-2022
(10-09-2022, 12:59 PM)81alum Wrote: (10-09-2022, 12:24 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I think that would be more prone to turnovers, but it is just a guess.
BC
Its just what we practice for breaking the press.
Interestingly, early women's basketball banned dribbling or moving with the ball and thus was essentially a passing game. This developed into modern "netball" which is still played in a few corners of the world.
I suppose if a player is unopposed when bringing the ball up the court, then anyone could do it. If on the other hand they are being pressed, then we have always used our break-press tactics and passed out of it.
But what if our ball carrier is just being harassed by one quick defender? That is where I wonder if we can start moving the ball upcourt with passes more fluidly rather than relying on a gifted dribbler like Williams to dribble through the pressure.
I wonder too. Many teams do this under pressure and they tend to get the ball over midcourt with plenty of time to initiate their offense.
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BostonCard - 10-09-2022
When pressed, and especially, when double teamed into a trap, the answer is to pass. When coming up the floor Unharassed, I think dribbling is the right way to go, and safer than passing the ball. If coming up the court defended but not double teamed, I think it might be good to look to pass, though you have to be careful lest the dribbler pick up their dribble and have trouble finding someone to pass to.
BC
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CompSci87 - 10-09-2022
We already try to push the ball upcourt with passes, as well as run quick transition offense, when there's an opportunity. Emphasizing that more would be fine, but there will be times it's not available.
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
TheWildJacko - 10-09-2022
(10-09-2022, 12:01 PM)81alum Wrote: (10-09-2022, 09:46 AM)TheWildJacko Wrote: I’m hoping for a lot more over-the-top style lob passes, in addition to our classic backdoor cuts, now that Betts is on the roster this year.
I do think lobs should be a big part of our repertoire, especially since we can put a very tall passer at the elbow--Prechtel etc.
Has anyone ever seen a team that never dribbled the ball to bring it up court, but only passed, similar to what is done by necessity to break the press? The thought has crossed my mind....
Azzi's title team was pretty good at that on the fast break...
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BobK - 10-10-2022
Congrats to Haley Jones
https://instagram.com/stories/tlepolo10/2946076183749760319?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
WBB fan - 10-10-2022
I second Bob K's "congrats to Haley." I'd seen a notice of this on ESPN this morning and was wondering just where on the Cardboard a comment about this would fit. Given the threads we have, I guess that this one is as good as any, but it occurs to me that it might be worth a new thread that is specifc to news about members of the Stanford team this season. If we do that, the mods could move this item to there. Make sense? Or maybe people feel the 2022-23 season thread would cover us on this.
If we do open a new thread, it would be the place where another bit of news could have gone, haven't seen anything on the Cardboard about this, but it was on GoStanford.com, about Cam getting the CalHope Courage Award in Sept, rather a big deal it seems to me. Here's the link:
gostanford.com/news/2022/9/12/womens-basketball-brink-wins-calhope-courage-award.aspx
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
81alum - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 10:08 AM)BobK Wrote: Congrats to Haley Jones
https://instagram.com/stories/tlepolo10/2946076183749760319?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Could you summarize this? I don't do instagram. Or Twitter either, for that matter. Heck, when I finally got a smartphone a couple of years ago it floored my family that I was abandoning my Luddite ways.
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Leftcoast - 10-10-2022
Haley Jones was one of five basketball stars to ink an NIL deal with Nike
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/.amp/basketball/haley-jones-inks-nil-deal-with-nike
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
stopandpop - 10-10-2022
(10-10-2022, 01:39 PM)WBB fan Wrote: I second Bob K's "congrats to Haley." I'd seen a notice of this on ESPN this morning and was wondering just where on the Cardboard a comment about this would fit. Given the threads we have, I guess that this one is as good as any, but it occurs to me that it might be worth a new thread that is specifc to news about members of the Stanford team this season. If we do that, the mods could move this item to there. Make sense? Or maybe people feel the 2022-23 season thread would cover us on this.
If we do open a new thread, it would be the place where another bit of news could have gone, haven't seen anything on the Cardboard about this, but it was on GoStanford.com, about Cam getting the CalHope Courage Award in Sept, rather a big deal it seems to me. Here's the link: gostanford.com/news/2022/9/12/womens-basketball-brink-wins-calhope-courage-award.aspx
WBB 2022-2023 thread seems appropriate.
RE: WBB - Way too early top 25 -
BobK - 10-10-2022
Actually I agree stop and pop.
I just hit the wrong one. It happens