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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - lex24 - 11-12-2022

(11-12-2022, 05:04 PM)pefloresjr Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 04:52 PM)lex24 Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 04:48 PM)BobK Wrote:  Of course Tara didn't slam Dunne

Maybe not directly.

Give me a break.  Tara has worked for many years to improve the opportunities for female athletes based on their athletic talent.  Tara clearly thinks it's a step back for all female athletes if the primary driver of NIL money is the amount of T&A that they show.  Tara did not slam anyone for their deals or for making money off of their sex appeal.  She was speaking from the larger perspective of what she thinks is best for all female athletes.  Are we really going to join the fools from social media who are trying to turn her opinion into a false fight in women's athletics?  Ridiculous.  

Cheers,
Pete F.

I disagree with her comments.  So, “what kind of fool am I.”  :).

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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - martyup - 11-12-2022

(11-12-2022, 04:49 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 02:38 PM)paloalto Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 11:14 AM)BobK Wrote:  Yet WBB and WVB players have many NIL deals.

Were those deals facilitated through the university or by the players?  Some of Stanford women's golf players probably have the biggest NIL deals.  I'm guessing those deals were mostly done directly through the players.  I know Rachel Heck has her own agency to negotiate NIL deals.

Did anyone read about the LSU female gymnast who has over $2million in NIL deals?  Needless to say they were done because of her physical appearance.  There were a number of national news articles about Tara's complaints these deals were done for the wrong reason.

You're talking about Olivia Dunne of LSU.  Her $2+ million per year NIL money comes mainly from sponsorships and promo contracts (American Eagle jeans, for example) that she models on her social media pages.  She's not showing any more than fans would see at a gymnastics meet.  And why shouldn't she monetize her beauty, as long as she doesn't sacrifice her values or self-respect?  It's not like there's lucrative pro gymnastics money waiting for her after graduation.

If anyone is going to take advantage of her physical appearance it should be her.  She's just doing what models/actors/actresses have been doing for a long time, i.e. using their looks to their advantage.  It shouldn't help her win a Rhodes Scholarship but I don't see any harm in her making some bank off it.

Just to put this discussion in context . . .

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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - 82lsju - 11-12-2022

(11-12-2022, 07:11 PM)martyup Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 04:49 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 02:38 PM)paloalto Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 11:14 AM)BobK Wrote:  Yet WBB and WVB players have many NIL deals.

Were those deals facilitated through the university or by the players?  Some of Stanford women's golf players probably have the biggest NIL deals.  I'm guessing those deals were mostly done directly through the players.  I know Rachel Heck has her own agency to negotiate NIL deals.

Did anyone read about the LSU female gymnast who has over $2million in NIL deals?  Needless to say they were done because of her physical appearance.  There were a number of national news articles about Tara's complaints these deals were done for the wrong reason.

You're talking about Olivia Dunne of LSU.  Her $2+ million per year NIL money comes mainly from sponsorships and promo contracts (American Eagle jeans, for example) that she models on her social media pages.  She's not showing any more than fans would see at a gymnastics meet.  And why shouldn't she monetize her beauty, as long as she doesn't sacrifice her values or self-respect?  It's not like there's lucrative pro gymnastics money waiting for her after graduation.

If anyone is going to take advantage of her physical appearance it should be her.  She's just doing what models/actors/actresses have been doing for a long time, i.e. using their looks to their advantage.  It shouldn't help her win a Rhodes Scholarship but I don't see any harm in her making some bank off it.

Just to put this discussion in context . . .

the 1970s called and want their bellbottoms and platform shoes back....

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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - StanfordMatt - 11-12-2022

(11-12-2022, 02:15 PM)VB Card Wrote:  MBB + Football players have NIL deals from a collective, those numbers and info just aren't public yet. Let's just say they're doing just fine.

Respectfully, I'm skeptical of this. On3 has a pretty comprehensive database that tracks NIL collectives: https://www.on3.com/nil/collectives/?page=1. The database includes private schools as well as small schools. Stanford is nowhere to be found. The only NIL program I'm aware of at Stanford is Cardinal Connect which is operated in-house and is a horse of a different color from those discussed by Canzano.

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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - cardcrimson - 11-13-2022

(11-12-2022, 12:47 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  If athletes want to monetize their image to sell shoes or be “influencers” on their social media platform, I’m ok with that. But I’m also glad that Muir has not jumped headfirst into establishing collectives that funnel money from rich donors to players in a thinly veiled pay for play scheme just so that the donors’ egos can be flattered by being associated with a winning football team.

BC

The last three words: hysterical. . . .

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RE: NIL doom and gloom for us - SamuelMcF - 11-13-2022

(11-12-2022, 10:35 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  

(11-12-2022, 02:15 PM)VB Card Wrote:  MBB + Football players have NIL deals from a collective, those numbers and info just aren't public yet. Let's just say they're doing just fine.

Respectfully, I'm skeptical of this. On3 has a pretty comprehensive database that tracks NIL collectives: https://www.on3.com/nil/collectives/?page=1. The database includes private schools as well as small schools. Stanford is nowhere to be found. The only NIL program I'm aware of at Stanford is Cardinal Connect which is operated in-house and is a horse of a different color from those discussed by Canzano.

MBB is CONFIRMED to have a collective.

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