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RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - old spanish trail - 11-13-2025
(11-13-2025, 01:08 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Dare I ask, WTF is a “PORPAGATU”?A bunch of statistics. Click above. Fwiw, Okorie is the top ACC frosh so far, ahead of Carmelo Anthony's son and Caleb Wilson.
BC
I thought the game changed when Giltay was inserted, I think for the first time, about 2/3 through the 2nd half. He blocked 2 shots in the paint, and disrupted another, but was only in the game for maybe 5 min. Giltay has long arms and held them vertical...at least in this small example. Does anyone know why Giltay doesn't play more? Injured? Not in game shape, etc?
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - SamuelMcF - 11-13-2025
(11-13-2025, 01:39 AM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-13-2025, 01:08 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Dare I ask, WTF is a “PORPAGATU”?A bunch of statistics. Click above. Fwiw, Okorie is the top ACC frosh so far, ahead of Carmelo Anthony's son and Caleb Wilson.
BC
I thought the game changed when Giltay was inserted, I think for the first time, about 2/3 through the 2nd half. He blocked 2 shots in the paint, and disrupted another, but was only in the game for maybe 5 min. Giltay has long arms and held them vertical...at least in this small example. Does anyone know why Giltay doesn't play more? Injured? Not in game shape, etc?
Nursing a back injury
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - BostonCard - 11-13-2025
Quote: Only one of those requires a significant amount of explanation: PRPG!, which used to be called the hilarious PORPAGATU but now is the shortened version. Essentially, this is a one-stop stat (mostly driven by offense) that functions as Points over Replacement Per Game. It’s not perfect, but it gives you a great way of seeing the most valuable offensive player on each team.
https://statsbywill.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about
https://barttorvik.com/porpagatu.html
Quote:PORPAGATU is an acronym for Points Over Replacement Per Adjusted Game At That Usage, an advanced statistical metric used in basketball to measure a player's offensive value.
Anyway, higher is better. But as with a lot of advanced stats, it’s a bit of an abstraction to explain exactly what it is measuring.
BC
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - skip75 - 11-13-2025
I'm not sure if what I saw last night was: a) a wake-up call/kick in the pants that will provide Smith and staff with lots of teaching opportunities on their way to a season with success beyond (admittedly low) pre-season expectations; or b) a harbinger of things to come - a return to the doldrums following the fun ride provided last season by Maxime, along with Blakes & Sellers. Or maybe most likely, c) a microcosm of what this season will continue to be - a series of ups and downs that have us all alternating between tearing our hair out and standing up to cheer.
I agree with pretty much everything in the posts above during and after the game. Seeing the team in person for the first time brought me back down to earth a bit after the optimism provided by catching bits & pieces of the first 2 games on TV and reading all of your Cardboard comments. The first half turnovers and lack of production from the bench were particularly concerning. And there was way too much inconsistency at both ends of the floor. But there were glimpses of some really good basketball. In the first minute, Stanford jumped out to a 5-0 lead - thanks Benny! And in the final 8 minutes, after falling behind 61-55, Stanford dominated both ends of the floor to close the game on a 21-7 run.
After playing 3 games in 9 days, Stanford now has 5 days to get ready for another home game against an opponent that they "should" beat. Hopefully some of the illness & injury issues can get better. After 3 games it seems apparent that Stanford will be heavily reliant on a freshman and that their 4 "grizzled veterans" include 2 (Dent-Smith & Rohosy) who are adjusting to a new level and 2 (Gealer & Okpara) who are adjusting to leadership roles. Sounds like a recipe for a rocky ride. Echoing what many of you have said, I trust in Kyle Smith and staff to keep things moving in the right direction.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - SamuelMcF - 11-13-2025
(11-13-2025, 10:19 AM)skip75 Wrote: After playing 3 games in 9 days, Stanford now has 5 days to get ready for another home game against an opponent that they "should" beat. Hopefully some of the illness & injury issues can get better. After 3 games it seems apparent that Stanford will be heavily reliant on a freshman and that their 4 "grizzled veterans" include 2 (Dent-Smith & Rohosy) who are adjusting to a new level and 2 (Gealer & Okpara) who are adjusting to leadership roles. Sounds like a recipe for a rocky ride. Echoing what many of you have said, I trust in Kyle Smith and staff to keep things moving in the right direction.
5 - Agarwal
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - SkiBum80 - 11-13-2025
(11-13-2025, 10:19 AM)skip75 Wrote: ... Or maybe most likely, c) a microcosm of what this season will continue to be - a series of ups and downs that have us all alternating between tearing our hair out and standing up to cheer.
Well said, and I hope more experience of the latter, as I have precious little left of the former and hope to retain what little I have left.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana State 7PM, ACCNX - old spanish trail - 11-15-2025
(11-13-2025, 07:23 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-13-2025, 01:39 AM)old spanish trail Wrote:(11-13-2025, 01:08 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Dare I ask, WTF is a “PORPAGATU”?A bunch of statistics. Click above. Fwiw, Okorie is the top ACC frosh so far, ahead of Carmelo Anthony's son and Caleb Wilson.
BC
I thought the game changed when Giltay was inserted, I think for the first time, about 2/3 through the 2nd half. He blocked 2 shots in the paint, and disrupted another, but was only in the game for maybe 5 min. Giltay has long arms and held them vertical...at least in this small example. Does anyone know why Giltay doesn't play more? Injured? Not in game shape, etc?
Nursing a back injury
Thanks