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RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-10-2026

(06-02-2026, 06:11 PM)jacket3ree Wrote:  Yeah, I'm not sure how having a few students pick the next tree instead of the traditional propagation (aka suckering - hey, I know some arborists) is killing the tree. Doesn't sound like the University is involved at all. If anything, a committee is harder to bribe with [fill in your own blank here] favors than just the current tree.

Anyway, careful with that axe, Eugene.

Agree.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - Mick - 06-12-2026

(06-08-2026, 09:06 AM)fullmetal Wrote:  I'm sad that the university is trying to insert itself into internal Band operations.  To some extent, the admissions policies of the university may have changed such that we are admitting fewer and fewer students whose personalities fit with the ethos of the Band.  But the Band itself does represent the university in a very public way, and the university is probably within its right to have some say in that representation.  I'd like to see some sort of mutually acceptable compromise, but the university does hold all the cards here, and along with the marginalization of the Dollies (by university-backed Stanford Cheer), it seems that the free spirit that used to infuse the Band and student population is no longer valued by the university.

I don't generally think of those terms as belonging together. Why use a flyswatter when a sledgehammer will do?

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-12-2026

(06-12-2026, 07:40 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(06-08-2026, 09:06 AM)fullmetal Wrote:  I'm sad that the university is trying to insert itself into internal Band operations.  To some extent, the admissions policies of the university may have changed such that we are admitting fewer and fewer students whose personalities fit with the ethos of the Band.  But the Band itself does represent the university in a very public way, and the university is probably within its right to have some say in that representation.  I'd like to see some sort of mutually acceptable compromise, but the university does hold all the cards here, and along with the marginalization of the Dollies (by university-backed Stanford Cheer), it seems that the free spirit that used to infuse the Band and student population is no longer valued by the university.

I don't generally think of those terms as belonging together. Why use a flyswatter when a sledgehammer will do?

(1) I think the Stanford University Leadership may want to look at new models (than our current one) & what other Universities do for a band that performs at University Events (Sporting or otherwise).

(2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

(3) If this question leads to a 'rethink' on our current stanford band model, and the formation of a more traditional Performing Marching Band, that might be a good thing.

(4) If there are individuals that may not want that, and cannot part with the way the previous tradition operated, I think they could just become a social club on campus and then within reason they could do as they wish, as a social-club, [e.g. scurry around like rats on a sinking ship when the lights came on, do snarky, sophomoric skits disrespecting other Universities, etc, ....outside the stadium & outside of Stanford Sporting Events].

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - Canalejas - 06-12-2026

Despite having had many years to outgrow their sophomoric antics, I'm afraid I still have much work to do.  I still love the Tree and the LSJUMB. I hope they don't get replaced by the type of square high school marching band-style member that I would have been my first year on the Farm.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - 82lsju - 06-12-2026

(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-13-2026

(06-12-2026, 08:45 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend 'John Heis-man' coached :o)

(3) To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - 82lsju - 06-13-2026

(06-13-2026, 01:40 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 08:45 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-14-2026

(06-13-2026, 01:44 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-13-2026, 01:40 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 08:45 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech = Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - 82lsju - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 11:28 AM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-13-2026, 01:44 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-13-2026, 01:40 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 08:45 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech =  Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

Then why write University after GaTech?

and FYI, it is the University of Notre Dame not Notre Dame University

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - martyup - 06-14-2026

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RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - TonyLima - 06-14-2026

82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781466910' Wrote:  1781466910[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781461732' Wrote:  1781461732[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781383494' Wrote:  1781383494[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781383211' Wrote:  1781383211[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781322311' Wrote:  1781322311[/url]']

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech =  Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

Then why write University after GaTech?

and FYI, it is the University of Notre Dame not Notre Dame University

Georgia Tech is GaTech
Massachusetts Institute of Technology is MIT
California Institute of Technology is CalTech
Carnegie Mellon is, in fact, CMU. 
I could go on, but nah.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - Canalejas - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 04:27 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  Georgia Tech is GaTech
Massachusetts Institute of Technology is MIT
California Institute of Technology is CalTech
Carnegie Mellon is, in fact, CMU. 
I could go on, but nah.

Please, go on.  

I'll add that no UC or Cal State campuses seem to use a hyphen in their name.  

It's UC Davis, not UC-Davis. Cal State Fullerton, not Cal State-Fullerton.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - BigJohn043 - 06-14-2026

(06-13-2026, 01:44 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-13-2026, 01:40 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 08:45 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  (2) For example: What do NotreDame University & Duke University & GaTech University & Vanderbilt University do for their band ?

that would be the Georgia Institute of Technology.....


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"

There was a GT basketball player that in his commitment press conference said he was going to "Georgia Tech University".  I think it was Kenny Anderson but may have been Stephon Marbury....

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 04:27 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781466910' Wrote:  1781466910[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781461732' Wrote:  1781461732[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781383494' Wrote:  1781383494[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781383211' Wrote:  1781383211[/url]']


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech =  Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

Then why write University after GaTech?

and FYI, it is the University of Notre Dame not Notre Dame University

Georgia Tech is GaTech
Massachusetts Institute of Technology is MIT
California Institute of Technology is CalTech
Carnegie Mellon is, in fact, CMU. 
I could go on, but nah.


...

Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University = VaTech
Louisiana Tech University = LaTech

etc,etc,

I think any true sports fans are aware of these shorthand monikers.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - 82lsju - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 04:27 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781466910' Wrote:  1781466910[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781461732' Wrote:  1781461732[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781383494' Wrote:  1781383494[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781383211' Wrote:  1781383211[/url]']


Hi 82lsju,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) Thanks for the assist, ...yes  when I said 'GaTech', I meant the Georgia Institute of Technology, for whom the legend John Heis-man coached :o)

(3)  To be official & certified, we really need Jacket3ree to stamp this.

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech =  Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

Then why write University after GaTech?

and FYI, it is the University of Notre Dame not Notre Dame University

Georgia Tech is GaTech
Massachusetts Institute of Technology is MIT
California Institute of Technology is CalTech
Carnegie Mellon is, in fact, CMU. 
I could go on, but nah.

and do true sports fans refer to UND (University of Notre Dame) as Notre Dam University?

surprised you did not bring Cal Tech (California Institute of Technology, not Cal Tech University) into the thread......

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 07:56 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(06-14-2026, 04:27 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781466910' Wrote:  1781466910[/url]']
StanUSwagU dateline='[url=tel:1781461732' Wrote:  1781461732[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1781383494' Wrote:  1781383494[/url]']

and I also went there for a year....

so what is

"GaTech University"


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well:

(1) Above I was using shorthand; See equation below for clarification.

(2) GaTech =  Georgia Institute of Technology = GeorgiaTech Yellow Jackets

Then why write University after GaTech?

and FYI, it is the University of Notre Dame not Notre Dame University

Georgia Tech is GaTech
Massachusetts Institute of Technology is MIT
California Institute of Technology is CalTech
Carnegie Mellon is, in fact, CMU. 
I could go on, but nah.

and do true sports fans refer to UND (University of Notre Dame) as Notre Dam University?

surprised you did not bring Cal Tech (California Institute of Technology, not Cal Tech University) into the thread......


Hi 82lsju,

Hope all is well,

I think what people are trying to convey here is to look at the substance of the post or opinion, not to fixate or nitpick (as martyup said) on the different ways a University can be named or referenced; I am going to hazard a guess that when I said 'GaTech University' that 90% of the people on this sports-board knew I was talking about Georgia Tech University, just like even though directly up above you write 'Notre Dam University' or earlier when you wrote 'Norte Dame University' (before you corrected it), we all knew what you were referring to.

Hope that helps clarify things a little.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - BostonCard - 06-14-2026

I may be wrong, but I think the point was not referring to Georgia Institute of Technology as Georgia Tech GATech or Georgia Tech but for appending “University” to the end.  There is no “University” in either “Georgia Institute of Technology” or “Georgia Tech”.  Virginia Tech and Louisiana Tech both have “University” in their full names, but as pointed out, neither MIT nor Cal Tech do.

BC

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - Mick - 06-14-2026

Proud that way back in October, 1985 my alma mater switched from "University of Santa Clara" to "Santa Clara University" so as not to be confused with the U of $poiled Children...

My sister-in-law is a proud Stanford alum (Product Design), Harvard alum (MBA) and GaTech alum (don't know her degree from GaTech)

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - StanUSwagU - 06-14-2026

(06-14-2026, 08:36 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I may be wrong, but I think the point was not referring to Georgia Institute of Technology as Georgia Tech GATech or Georgia Tech but for appending “University” to the end.  There is no “University” in either “Georgia Institute of Technology” or “Georgia Tech”.  Virginia Tech and Louisiana Tech both have “University” in their full names, but as pointed out, neither MIT nor Cal Tech do.

BC

Hi BC,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) I think I see your point. Maybe I confused 82lsju (which was not my intent, & which I tried to clarify ...sorry 82lsju for any confusion).
I wrote out a list of 4 universities and just for 'prosaic consistency & symmetry within the list' appended the term 'University' to all 4 of them;
I assumed 90% of sports fans on this board would know which universities were being referred to, & did not think that would cause such a stir.

RE: A Word on the Stanford Tree (and what the university is doing to kill it) - 82lsju - 06-15-2026

(06-14-2026, 08:36 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I may be wrong, but I think the point was not referring to Georgia Institute of Technology as Georgia Tech GATech or Georgia Tech but for appending “University” to the end.  There is no “University” in either “Georgia Institute of Technology” or “Georgia Tech”.  Virginia Tech and Louisiana Tech both have “University” in their full names, but as pointed out, neither MIT nor Cal Tech do.

BC

correct
(06-14-2026, 09:52 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote:  
(06-14-2026, 08:36 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I may be wrong, but I think the point was not referring to Georgia Institute of Technology as Georgia Tech GATech or Georgia Tech but for appending “University” to the end.  There is no “University” in either “Georgia Institute of Technology” or “Georgia Tech”.  Virginia Tech and Louisiana Tech both have “University” in their full names, but as pointed out, neither MIT nor Cal Tech do.

BC

Hi BC,

(1) Hope all is well.

(2) I think I see your point. Maybe I confused 82lsju (which was not my intent, & which I tried to clarify ...sorry 82lsju for any confusion).
I wrote out a list of 4 universities and just for 'prosaic consistency & symmetry within the list' appended the term 'University' to all 4 of them;
I assumed 90% of sports fans on this board would know which universities were being referred to, & did not think that would cause such a stir.

I was not confused, just like to see the Universities referred to correctly and neither appending "University" to the end when it is not part of their name nor switching the placement of the word University from the beginning to the end of the name.  I would imagine some Stanford fans would not like their school referred to as University of Stanford instead of Stanford University even though I'm sure 90% of sports fans on this board would know who you were referring to.