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Re: Wuh oh..... - OutsiderFan - 05-03-2012

Not saying it isn't possible, but has a woman ever been really successful as an AD?

Barbara Hedges - no
Sandy Barbour - meh
Lisa Love - no

Others?

Re: Wuh oh..... - pincemob - 05-03-2012

I was interested in that Holgersen story myself at the time.  The worst I read about him was that he liked to work odd hours, and that he partied.  I don't think either affected his job performance.  He was single (never married) if I recall.  I never read anything about him breaking the law or doing anything seriously embarassing.  But you might have inside scoop. 

I am no expert, but I think Holgersen will end up being a very good hire.  Having seen a bit of Oliver Luck through interviews, etc, he'd be my #1 pick.  Otherwise an established guy like Bowlsby was.

Re: Wuh oh..... - OutsiderFan - 05-04-2012

If I was hiring an AD for a Pac-12 school on the west coast, I would always choose one who is already an AD from a BCS conference school east of the Rockies.  The reason is because in general college sports play a much larger role in the culture there than they do places west of the Rockies.  Having an AD accustomed to having high interest in his sports programs will serve the Athletic Dept. well.  Bowlsby fit this bill to a T, and you can see the results, particularly in football.

It sure seems much easier for someone with experience dealing with highly popular sports programs and all that comes with them, to adapt to Stanford's academic constraints than it is to get someone from an academic-focused institution (like Harvard) with a low profile sports following, to adapt to being in a larger and more visible sports program. 



Re: Wuh oh..... - yvonne - 05-04-2012

Apparently, you've never been to USC or even Oregon or Washington.

Bowlsby had experience with a broad range of sports programs, including Olympic sports. We'll probably look for that again.

One interesting take - Redrum - 05-04-2012

A poster on the Bootleg expressed one view:  that the numero uno  thing one should look for in an Athletic Director is...ability to bring in donations and raise money.    That might be.  I don't know.  Does money follow athletic success or does money cause athletic success?    Stanford convinced John Arrillaga to fund a whole new stadium during a period of football decline, but maybe JA is just an outlier data point,  a guy so besotted by Stanford athletics that he is a compulsive supporter.  But,  giving to athletics has increased (as has earned revenue)  ever since Harbaugh set foot on campus.    And JA's funding a stadium aside,  it can be argued that the new Pac-12 and its TV contract  is more significant than shifts in alumni giving over the last few years.    And I certainly don't know who/what type of of athletic dept. leader is a slam-dunk to be a success.

Re: Wuh oh..... - yvonne - 05-08-2012

http://wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/201205080223

Re: Wuh oh..... - ChicagoCard - 05-09-2012

(05-08-2012, 08:44 PM)Yvonne link Wrote:http://wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/201205080223

Thanks, good article.

Wilner wrote: "Stanford’s recent football success is based on an institutional commitment to winning that did not exist before Bowlsby arrived." I guess entirely correct except somebody had to have the wherewithal to hire Bowslby in the first place.

Re: Wuh oh..... - Leftcoast - 05-09-2012

Yeah ....  I think history will treat Ted Leland more kindly once the stink of Teevens and Harris fades.

Leland gets fairly lambasted due to his late (and lamentable) football hires but don't forget he also presided over the expansion of Stanford in almost every other sport including a final four in basketball and the College World Series, the total revamp of  the East side of campus with first class sporting facilities, the building of Stanford's women programs to be the best in the NCAA (not even contestable) and he started our string of Director's cups.  He kept ticket prices down, built the sports endowment and resisted the commercialization of college sports.  (Yeah, that last one earned him some critics.)

I realize that saying Leland was great except for his Football hires is a bit like saying Napolean had an itty-bitty Waterloo problem but plenty of our previous AD's sucked at Football AND were mediocre in other sports not played in 1950s country clubs.

If I build the Stanford pantheon Leland is near the top - not Zeus perhaps but somewhere close.


Re: Wuh oh..... - Kathy - 05-21-2012

(05-03-2012, 11:05 AM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:WIM, don't you have concerns about Oliver Luck based on the WVU coaching debacle?  Practically his first act as the AD was to run off the current football coach Bill Stewart (long-time assistant who was elevated to HC after RichRod left for Michigan) and negotiate behind his back for Dana Holgorsen to take over.  A stain on his resume. 

Bill Stewart died today after an apparent heart attack. WVU story just says he resigned in June 2011. It also does not quote AD Oliver Luck.

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/page.cfm?story=21301&cat=exclusives