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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 01-29-2013

Let's bump this both because it's more relevant now, and to get our mind off the bummer finish to '13. Here's the state of play as far as I can see in regards to offers (culled from Rivals and 247. We'll use a naive approach and simply list whomever says they've got an offer, though of course that may not be true):

QB (1):
Keller Chryst (Five star on 247; Four-star on Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)

RB (9)
Christian McCaffrey (Four star on Rivals, 247; four-star on Scout; four-star on ESPN): [b]Committed to Stanford[/b]
Jalen Hurd (Five star on 247; four star on Rivals, Scout; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Tennessee
Elijah Hood (Five star on Rivals; four star on 247, Scout; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to N.D.
Jonathan Hilliman (Three star on 247, Scout; unrated on Rivals, ESPN)
Royce Freeman (Four star on 247, Rivals; three star on Scout; unrated ESPN)
Nick Chubb (Four stars all around)
Auston Anderson (high three star on 247): Committed to Northwestern
Adam Choice (four star on Rivals, 247, Scout)
Jonathan Vickers (Four star on ESPN, three-stars on the rest)

FB (1)
Daniel Marx (unrated): Committed to Stanford

WR (7):
Austin Roberts (Four star on Rivals, high three-star on 247, not rated by Scout, watchlist on ESPN)
Chris Godwin (Four star on Rivals, 247, Scout; watchlist by ESPN): Committed to Penn State
Allen Lazard (Four star on Rivals, 247, Scout; watchlisted by ESPN): committed to Iowa State
Trevon Lee (Four star on 247, three star on Scout; unranked on Rivals, ESPN)
Josh Malone (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Corey Holmes (Four star on 247, Rivals, Scout; watchlist on ESPN)
Trevion Thompson (Four stars all around)

TE (2):
Dalton Schultz (Four star on Scout, Rivals; high-three star on 247; watchlist on ESPN)
Garrett Dickerson (Four star by Scout, Rivals, 247; watchlist on ESPN)

OL (9):
Braden Smith (Five star on 247, Scout; Four star on Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Bentley Spain (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Mason Cole (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Michigan
Quenton Nelson (Four star on Rivals, three star on 247, unrated on Scout, watchlist on ESPN): Committed to N.D.
Alex Bars (Four star on Rivals, 247, three star on Scout, watchlist on ESPN): Committed to N.D.
Casey Tucker (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN):
Ross Pierschbacher (Four star on Rivals, 247, Scout; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Iowa
Sam Mustipher (Four star on Rivals, 247, Scout; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to N.D.
Alex Dalton (three star): Committed to Oklahoma

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DL ( 8 )
DaShawn Hand (consensus #1 player in U.S.)
Solomon Thomas (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): Texan w/ Texas offer.
Nifae Lealao (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): Stanford leads.
Bryan Mone (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Michigan
Malik McDowell (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Dontavius Russell (Four star for all): Committed to Georgia
Andrew Brown (four star for all)
Andrew Trumbetti (four stars on 247, Scout): Committed to N.D.

LB (14):
Michael Ferns (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): committed to Michigan
Jamadre Cobb (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Raekwon McMillan (ENTER THE 36 CHAMBBBERRRRSSSSSSS): Ohio State supposedly leads
Vincent Jackson (three star on 247; unrated by everyone else)
Lorenzo Carter (5 star on 247, Rivals; 3 star on Scout; watchlist on ESPN): most sites list him as a DE but I'd guess an OLB in our system.
Keshun Freeman (unrated)
Kirk Tucker (unrated)
Andrew Beck (4 star on 247; unrated everywhere else): Damn you Texas.
Sam Hubbard (4 star on Scout, unrated everywhere else): Committed to Ohio State
Tay Evans (Three star on 247, unrated everywhere else)
Joey Alfieri (Four star on 247, Rivals; three star on Scout; unrated on ESPN)
Richard Yeargin III (four star on 247, Scout, ESPN; three star on Rivals)
Chase Winovich (three stars all around)
Dwight Williams (highly-ranked)

DBs (18):
Jabrill Peppers (self-evident)
Nick Watkins (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN)
Todd Kelly (Four star on Rivals, 247; three star on Scout; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Tennessee
Laurence Jones (Five star on Scout; four star on Rivals, 247; watchlist on ESPN)
Quincy Wilson (Four star on Rivals; three star on Scout, 247)
Nick Glass (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): Committed to Georgia
Terrence Alexander (unrated thus far)
Brandon Simmons (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; four-star on ESPN): Committed to Stanford
Montae Nicholson (Four star on 247, Rivals; three star on Scout; watchlist on ESPN)
Alameen Murphy (Unrated): looks like we're his second offer (first is UNC).
C.J. Hampton (high three star on 247, Scout; unrated on Rivals, ESPN): Committed to Ole Miss
D'Andre Payne (four star on Rivals, three-star on Scout, unrated on 247, ESPN): Committed to Tennessee
John Bonney (Four star on 247, Scout; unrated on Rivals, ESPN)
Jamal Adams (Four stars all around)
Marcus Allen (Four star on 247; unrated elsewhere)
Davion Hall (Four stars all around)
Adarius Pickett (four stars all around)
Payton Hendrix (Two stars on Rivals; unrated elsewhere)

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ATH (5):
Jalen Brown (Four star on 247, Scout, Rivals; watchlist on ESPN): unclear whether S or WR.
Kendall Randolph (Four star on Rivals; three star on 247, Scout; watchlist on ESPN)
Devante Downs (Four star on 247, Rivals; three star on Scout; unlisted by ESPN)
Stanton Truitt (three star on 247, Scout; unrated by everyone else)
Matt Nelson (unrated)

Commits:
Brandon Fanaika (back from mission)
Brandon Simmons
Christian McCaffrey
Daniel Marx

Open Spots (speculative; math may be wrong and/or may not know full scholarship details of roster)
3 banked scholarships from 2013.
14 expiring eligibility next year
7 possibilities for uninvited 5th year (Nelson, Bonnell, Seale, Dudchock, Hemschoot, Underwood, Plantaric -- though of course this is premature and is using broad criteria. Essentially, if you aren't a returning starter you're on this list.)
4 possibilities for leaving early (Yankey, Reynolds, H. Anderson, Richards)

On high end, then, you've got 28 potential open scholarships just as a guess based on known information (obviously transfers, medical retirements, other stuff may come into play). It seems reasonable to assume not all of these will materialize, then. Maybe 23 or 24 incoming players, to approximate.

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 02-07-2013

Here's how the conference + ND stack up in terms of reported offers handed out for 2014:

N.D. (79)
UCLA (63)
ASU (44)
Utah (43)
Literature's Greatest Losers (43)
UW (43)
Arizona (37)
Colorado (34)
Stanford (31) (note that the offer total for 2013 was 65)
Oregon State (26)
59ers (23)
WSU (18)
Oregon (18)

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Re: Class of 2014 - yvonne - 02-07-2013

I need a little perspective, WiM. When are most offers handed out? How might this compare with the 2013 offer list at this time of year?

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 02-07-2013

(02-07-2013, 08:58 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:I need a little perspective, WiM. When are most offers handed out? How might this compare with the 2013 offer list at this time of year?

As to question 1) you see a lot of offers right now to perceived top-tier targets, followed by another flood after junior days, followed by some more after camps...and that should take care of the vast majority of the class, with maybe some mop-up offers in the fall.

2) We've picked up the pace of offers considerably. We were very picky about handing out offers for 2013 because of the lack of space; I'd speculate we also figured we'd be a hot property. Unfortunately, we ran head-on into a trend wherein players commit much more quickly than they used to -- so we were laggards doubly so. Not filling the pipeline in the beginning contributed to the poor class at the end; that was the problem more than the "close" of the class.

So being around average-ish right now is probably right. Looking at the offer list you can see a clear bias towards defensive backs in the 2014 class -- by far the main need. Second on the list is defensive line. Then, basically, the coaches should emphasize going after quality (though they need to bring in their minimum of OL.)

EDIT: forgot running backs. Clear priorities are DB, DL, OL, RB. You still want to stock the pipeline at other positions (with quality), but the class is in trouble if the numbers aren't there for those four positions. We look like we're in good shape for DB and DL. RB you have McCaffrey and a power back, so decent shape. OL is a bit more mysterious at the moment.

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Re: Class of 2014 - stan01 - 02-08-2013

New Stanford offers:

DB Alameen Murphy from Fort Wash., Md.
OL/DL Quenton Nelson from Red Bank, NJ
DB/WR Montae Nicholson from Monroeville, PA

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Re: Class of 2014 - yvonne - 02-10-2013

Word elsewhere is that he committed under Tarver, and that changes in the defense make him no longer "fit," whatever that means.

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Re: Class of 2014 - OutsiderFan - 02-10-2013

(02-10-2013, 06:22 PM)Yvonne link Wrote:Word elsewhere is that he committed under Tarver, and that changes in the defense make him no longer "fit," whatever that means.

My guess is Stanford dropped Williams.  That likely means there are better prospects in the pool at his position.

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Re: Let the panic begin - jayasena - 02-11-2013

(02-10-2013, 05:48 PM)garvin link Wrote:Around Twitter, the word is that Devin Williams has decomitted.

The tweets I've seen seem to indicate it was mutual agreement to go different ways. Did he want to play a different position from what we wanted him as?

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Re: Class of 2014 - StannyBoy - 02-11-2013

The reality is Williams isn't Pac 12 material. He had a great sophomore year and then his junior year he didn't even get all league honors. Not even honorable mention. Numerous players on his team stood out more than he did. The writing was on the wall. Also, I don't think he has grown much so not big enough for LB and not athletic enough for safety.

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Re: Class of 2014 - kuz - 02-11-2013

(02-11-2013, 12:49 AM)young_money link Wrote:The reality is Williams isn't Pac 12 material. He had a great sophomore year and then his junior year he didn't even get all league honors. Not even honorable mention. Numerous players on his team stood out more than he did. The writing was on the wall. Also, I don't think he has grown much so not big enough for LB and not athletic enough for safety.

Wasn't he injured half the season?

But it has indeed looked like he's maxed out at abut 5'9, which is even pretty tiny for a strong safety.

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 02-11-2013

He ran a 5.0 40 at the Under Armour combine. I'm not someone who's a brobdingnagian believer in that metric, but that's a major red flag -- for a linebacker, let alone a safety.

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 02-11-2013

Here's the WaPo article on Murphy's offer. Not exactly swimming with detail (Murphy intends to visit for a camp), and the coach's comment on the offer is:

Quote:“We know a lot of schools are interested,” Friendly offensive coordinator Darrell Dreher said. “With that big offer, we expect a lot of schools to come in even more targeting Alameen. Now we’re just going to have to wait and see what happens.”

Feelllll the enthusiasm. Might be a selective quote, but the guy seems most interested in leveraging our offer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/post/friendly-db-alameen-murphy-adds-stanford-offer/2013/02/11/1eef9634-747e-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_blog.html?wprss=rss_sports

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 02-12-2013

A minor bummer as Utah nose tackle Bryan Mone commits to Michigan. Given the importance of nose tackle in 3-4 (and our not taking one in 2013), it would've been nice to land a highly-rated one this class. Sadly, it's probably not to be with Mone (although you can always hope for that de-commit, I suppose).

Plenty of time to recover, though.

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Re: Class of 2014 - ChicagoCard - 02-12-2013

(02-12-2013, 02:06 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:A minor bummer as Utah nose tackle Bryan Mone commits to Michigan. Given the importance of nose tackle in 3-4 (and our not taking one in 2013), it would've been nice to land a highly-rated one this class. Sadly, it's probably not to be with Mone (although you can always hope for that de-commit, I suppose).

Terrible to see Michigan land a recruit from Utah, Pac-12 / Mountain West territory.

Are any of the four defensive linemen from the 2012 class potentially a nose tackle?

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Re: Class of 2014 - StannyBoy - 02-12-2013

Ikenna Nwafor was listed at 308 lbs this past season so I would guess he'll end up at NT.

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Re: Class of 2014 - Leftcoast - 03-02-2013

Bump .... For Zaru's benefit.

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 03-02-2013

Keller Chryst at open practice today: https://twitter.com/DavidMLombardi/status/307928705169244160

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Re: Class of 2014 - StannyBoy - 03-02-2013

I was there. Chryst is brobdingnagian, at least 6 foot 4 now. Bentley Spain was also there. He's brobdingnagian too. There was a 3rd recruit who was with Spain most of the time watching the OL practice but I am not sure who it was. The kid was tall and pretty big so probably an OL recruit.

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Re: Class of 2014 - yvonne - 03-03-2013

(03-02-2013, 03:04 PM)young_money link Wrote:I was there. Chryst is brobdingnagian,

So, are you saying it's your fault Chryst injured his leg?

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Re: Class of 2014 - washingtonismoney - 03-13-2013

Drukarev interviews CB prospect Terrence Alexander (free): http://stanford.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1483250

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