Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point?

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Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - washingtonismoney - 02-09-2014

(02-09-2014, 11:02 AM)scorecard link Wrote:Is this really true?Â It is true that our DE's lately have been larger.Â But there are many DE's in college that are not.

3-4 requires larger defensive linemen, in general, making the NFL draft comparison a bit deceptive.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - oldguy - 02-09-2014

I wonder if Stanford can sell the difficulty of admission as an advantage to a 1 or 2 year player, and should Stanford do so?

After all, there's McEnroe and Tiger, who get a measure of leeway for their year or two at Stanford, and as far as I know, have not returned to finish. And there are many athletes who go pro before their degree, and return during or after a pro career to finish a degree.

The athlete who gains admission to Stanford as a freshman will never have the advantage of being a recruited athlete again, unless he/she has eligibility left, and a spot is open for the rare transfer. Once enrolled elsewhere, or turned pro, he/she competes with every non-athlete seeking admission - a much higher bar.

Maybe they will never complete the degree, but why turn down the rare opportunity of a freshman year at Stanford, and the possibility of completing the degree somewhere down the line?

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - dabomb1227 - 02-09-2014

Thomas will certainly need to put on some weight to be an every down 3-4 DE.Â However, at his current size with only a few pounds he could be a good 3rd down pass rusher playing as an end in a 4 man front in the Nickel or Dime

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - washingtonismoney - 02-14-2014

Smile, you all. You're on camera: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24443595/breaking-down-the-buzz-stanford?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Recruiting Texans vs Texas - FrankO - 02-14-2014

I think the point is that until Thomas Stanford never had success in recruiting an academically oriented + being an elite HS Texas player vs the Longhorns...

UT did not offer Luck, Taylor, Dunn, Bookman,Â etc, etc...

only one I know of is Thomas... and he didn't happen to have UT among his set of finalists (perhaps because they coincidentallyÂ had fallen off their top football perch)

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Bruce Wang - 02-14-2014

(02-14-2014, 04:05 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Smile, you all. You're on camera: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24443595/breaking-down-the-buzz-stanford?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

:DÂ Too bad none of the quotes used our various favorite nicknames for the Trojenz.

Re: Recruiting Texans vs Texas - terry - 02-14-2014

(02-14-2014, 04:33 PM)FrankO link Wrote:I think the point is that until Thomas Stanford never had success in recruiting an academically oriented + being an elite HS Texas player vs the Longhorns...

UT did not offer Luck, Taylor, Dunn, Bookman,Â etc, etc...

only one I know of is Thomas... and he didn't happen to have UT among his set of finalists (perhaps because they coincidentallyÂ had fallen off their top football perch)

Anthony Bookman had an offer from Texas. In fact, he committed to Texas, then decommitted and chose Stanford.Â http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Stanford-RB-Used-to-Pressure-Bookman-snubbed-3024250.php

Eric Heitmann also had an offer from Texas.

I'm not sure about Damon Dunn, but I know he was recruited by almost everyone.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Hank 91 - 02-14-2014

When I interviewed Damon Dunn a couple years ago, I asked him about his recruiting process. Here's his response:

Quote:GMC:
What was your recruitment like? Were there other schools that you considered? What was is that finally attracted you to Stanford?

DD:
I was the number two recruit in the state of Texas as far as wide receivers. I was recruited by every college in the country. I received over 30,000 letters -- hand-written letters. Every college would be at my practice because we had five or six guys that were going Division I. We had colleges at our practices every day. They were at our Spring Game. Anywhere I wanted to go, I couldve gone. When it was time for the coaches to call, I was receiving twenty calls a night. It was a tough process. My mom kind of ruled out the Florida schools, because they were getting a bad rep. Florida, Florida State, Miami -- this was 1993. My mom ruled that out. The team that recruited me the hardest was Syracuse. Then I had a trip to Michigan. I tripped to UCLA, which ended up being my number two choice, I went to Stanford, and I went to Notre Dame.

Here's the full interview for anyone who's interested:
http://www.gomightycard.com/2012/07/cardinal-conversation-damon-dunn.html

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Bruce Wang - 02-14-2014

Wow Hank.Â That's a terrific interview.Â The best of yours I've read.Â Didn't know about it.Â Really should dig through your archived posts during this offseason when I need a Stanford football fix and things are quieter around here.Â Anyhow this was my favorite part:

"My grandmother summed it up. I was only the second person in my family to go to college. My mom had gone. She said, Youre going for a lot more people than just yourself. For a young, black man to put his name on a Stanford degree, I just dont think you can pass it up. They let me make my decision, but at the end of the day it was right."

We've talked about the powerful positive influence of Stanford Moms, let's hear for it the Grandmas too!Â Damon Dunn's grandmother, my 3rd favorite Stanford grandmother (after my two of course).

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Hank 91 - 02-15-2014

Publius -- Damon Dunn is a good guy. He's currently running for mayor of Long Beach. The election is this spring; I'll be sure to post an update here.

If you didn't see them when originally posted, check out my interviews with Darin Nelson and Tommy Vardell. I'm particularly proud of the Vardell piece. He was incredibly helpful, and it turned out really good.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Bruce Wang - 02-15-2014

(02-15-2014, 11:36 AM)Hank 91 link Wrote:If you didn't see them when originally posted, check out my interviews with Darin Nelson and Tommy Vardell. I'm particularly proud of the Vardell piece. He was incredibly helpful, and it turned out really good.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - stupac2 - 02-15-2014

(02-15-2014, 04:28 PM)Publius link Wrote:Hank, you really should tell people when you post new stuff.Â No need to be modest among friends.

I figured everyone here had his blog in their RSS reader. Or followed him on twitter. Or whatever the cool kids are doing these days.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Hank 91 - 02-15-2014

(02-15-2014, 04:28 PM)Publius link Wrote:[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=9532.msg83934#msg83934 date=1392489374]
If you didn't see them when originally posted, check out my interviews with Darin Nelson and Tommy Vardell. I'm particularly proud of the Vardell piece. He was incredibly helpful, and it turned out really good.

The Vardell piece is terrific.Â I'll look for the Darin Nelson.

Folks, I just went over there and it's a treasure of write ups about each of the members of the new class.

Hank, you really should tell people when you post new stuff.Â No need to be modest among friends.
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Ask, and ye shall receive.
Darin Nelson:
http://www.gomightycard.com/2012/07/cardinal-conversation-darrin-nelson.html

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Bruce Wang - 02-15-2014

Thanks Hank.Â My favorite part:

"pass catching came pretty easy to me, to tell you the truth, and I dont know why because I caught maybe five passes in high school. But it came pretty easy. Its probably because I learned how to juggle. A lot of people say its the hand-eye coordination. I actually learned how to juggle during my freshman year just as a hobby, so I picked up the pass catching part pretty easily."

Can we find this guy and teach some of the guys how to juggle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAIPL5O9Uwk

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - SUBuddha - 02-16-2014

(02-15-2014, 11:36 AM)Hank 91 link Wrote:Publius -- Damon Dunn is a good guy. He's currently running for mayor of Long Beach. The election is this spring; I'll be sure to post an update here.

If you didn't see them when originally posted, check out my interviews with Darin Nelson and Tommy Vardell. I'm particularly proud of the Vardell piece. He was incredibly helpful, and it turned out really good.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - Hank 91 - 02-17-2014

(02-16-2014, 12:14 AM)SUBuddha link Wrote:[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=9532.msg83934#msg83934 date=1392489374]
Publius -- Damon Dunn is a good guy. He's currently running for mayor of Long Beach. The election is this spring; I'll be sure to post an update here.

If you didn't see them when originally posted, check out my interviews with Darin Nelson and Tommy Vardell. I'm particularly proud of the Vardell piece. He was incredibly helpful, and it turned out really good.

Hank, those are great. Brought back some great memories for me, the Vardell piece in particular. I remember when Tommy got drafted my sophomore year (we were in Sigma Nu together). He didn't want to move his stereo when he left, so he sold me his stereo and speakers. I just gave those speakers to my nephew for use in his college dorm. One of the humblest men I have ever met.
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Humble? I'd say so. He repeatedly thanked ME for seeking him out for the interview, and asked me to look out for him at Stanford events so we could meet. Haven't had the pleasure yet, but hopefully one day. Great guy.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - washingtonismoney - 02-19-2014

With some of the stats in this article, I do hope we have some catch-up growth in us: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/2/18/5312840/college-football-recruiting-teams-championships

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - CardinalSinner - 02-22-2014

First post (for me) and whatnot.
I think people should be less worried about Stanford reaching the apex of its recruiting ability. I could go on about how Stanford offers a unique combination of...blah,blah, blah, but I'm going to go a different route. Stanford IMHO, does an incredible job of developing talent, just look at what they have done with unheralded recruits. And it's not just development, they do an even better job of recognizing talent within their talent pool. Remember, we are only just now at the point when the best Stanford class in the bcs era (2012, ratings based on 247sports) is just now at the point where they will start to make up the majority of starters. I, for one, am very excited to see what Stanford can do with only the guys they really, really wanted. You can see how much confidence they have in talent recognition and their ability to develop their starters in the year after the 2012 class: they signed a small class with really talented recruits at positions that they needed and not a player more. Look at this next recruiting cycle. Josh Rosen, the #2 QB recruit flat out said that he would have committed to Stanford had he been offered, and Stanford's only QB offer was to Ricky Town. To read between the lines a bit, Stanford has so much confidence in Keller Chryst and Ryan (it sucks to be sandwiched between Hogan and Chryst) Burns, that unless they can get an absolute homerun like (god damnit) USC is getting in Town, they are just fine with not overstocking on recruits and the best part is, they almost always seem to be right. What Alabama does is despicable. I get it, if you are 18 and Saban comes knocking promising you a starting spot on the Tide, you say yes, just because it means you are the best. But then they go ahead and put people on hardship scholarships (aka you're cut) and they lose a year and have to transfer often to a CC first. We should be proud that our school can put together a program that only gives scholarships to people that they know can contribute and then is able to preform at the ridiculous level we have ascended to.

David Shaw: I love you, but two safeties in the box means you throw the damn ball.

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - yvonne - 02-22-2014

Welcome the board, CS!

Re: Has Stanford reached the recruiting tipping point? - CardinalSinner - 02-27-2014

Thanks! Also, are polite yet but slightly unnecessary replies encouraged?