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Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - Farm93 - 02-20-2014

(02-20-2014, 02:53 PM)Publius link Wrote:If they want to play a game somewhere other than Stanford or South Bend, how about somewhere in England?
I would love to get out of the Notre Dame game.  When Stanford had that 86,001/85,500 seat monster the "Never been to Indiana, yet fans of South Bend U" crew was too tempting to ignore.  SBU also enabled Stanford to get on national TV when that type of TV coverage was precious and critical to recruiting.  Now the smaller stadium and the ubiquitous TV coverage have changed the needs.

However if Stanford was going to agree to 2 neutral site games, so that both programs lose a home game, I would hope for China (potentially the Bird's nest) and then in Japan's World Cup 2002 Yokohama stadium.  In both places I would suspect Stanford would get more support from the locals than that school from "Middle America".  Just a hunch.

Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - 82lsju - 02-20-2014

(02-20-2014, 09:16 PM)Farm93 link Wrote:[quote author=Publius link=topic=9575.msg84154#msg84154 date=1392933223]
If they want to play a game somewhere other than Stanford or South Bend, how about somewhere in England?
I would love to get out of the the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends game.  When Stanford had that 86,001/85,500 seat monster the "Never been to Indiana, yet fans of South Bend U" crew was too tempting to ignore.  SBU also enabled Stanford to get on national TV when that type of TV coverage was precious and critical to recruiting.  Now the smaller stadium and the ubiquitous TV coverage have changed the needs.

However if Stanford was going to agree to 2 neutral site games, so that both programs lose a home game, I would hope for China (potentially the Bird's nest) and then in Japan's World Cup 2002 Yokohama stadium.  In both places I would suspect Stanford would get more support from the locals than that school from "Middle America".  Just a hunch.
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well you and Larry Scott are on the same page about China (but ND saw it as replacing a Stanford home game)

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7417643/larry-scott-sees-pac-12-team-playing-football-game-china

Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - OutsiderFan - 02-21-2014

Cal is the ideal team to give up a home game to play in China, for several reasons:

1. UC Berkeley has a very large percentage of Chinese students
2. Cal routinely agrees to take it in the shorts for others
3. The population is so small that the UC Berkeley "leaders" won't hear/will be indifferent to the hue and cry from the "real fans" for Cal giving up a home game

No fan of any team wants to give up a home football game, so Cal is the natural Pac-12 school to do it.



Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - Farm93 - 02-21-2014

(02-21-2014, 05:55 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Low APR U is the ideal team to give up a home game to play in China, for several reasons:

1. UC Berkeley has a very large percentage of Chinese students
2. Low APR U routinely agrees to take it in the shorts for others
3. The population is so small that the UC Berkeley "leaders" won't hear/will be indifferent to the hue and cry from the "real fans" for Low APR U giving up a home game

No fan of any team wants to give up a home football game, so Low APR U is the natural Pac-12 school to do it.
First a disclaimer, I would most certainly try to go to the Stanford Asia game since that would be a nice experience.  And, I suspect in the Pac-12 Stanford has the most fans that would actually try to travel to the game.

Stanford will be the logical choice for this experiment.
In Shanghai or Beijing the wealthy types dream of sending their kids to Stanford first.  In most cases ahead of any other school in the USA, but definitely tops in the Pac-12.  So those powerful types probably would want Stanford.
In terms of expats floating around, I suspect Stanford's tally would be competitive against the others in the Pac-12 too.
But most importantly, Stanford has a problem with early September home games.  The fans, even on this board, hate them.
Easy fix to THAT problem.  Take it away completely and make Stanford play a "home" game in mid-late August.

My guess is that a rivalry game would not be stolen, but Washington State or Oregon State vs Stanford seems viable if that game eliminated an early September home game for Stanford AND enabled both teams to start training camp a couple of weeks earlier than other teams.

Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - OutsiderFan - 02-21-2014

I don't think the way to deal with sluggish home attendance for early September games is to move such games to China.  That said, it makes too much sense from a capitalistic perspective for the Pac-12 not to do everything possible to nail down the Chinese TV market, which playing games there would be focused on doing.  As long as the rotation of conference teams playing abroad is equitable, and inter-division games aren't included, it can be pulled off.  But Stanford should never give up a home game to play Notre Dame at a neutral site anywhere in the universe, unless Notre Dame gives one up also.

Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - Hurlburt88 - 02-22-2014

I would think the benefit would be more for marketing the schools themselves . . . including overseas extensions & lucrative executive programs

Re: Tracking the season ticket sales - Steven_Durrett - 02-23-2014

(02-20-2014, 03:38 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:The Pac-12 is tough enough.  Stanford could replace the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends with Duke on the schedule for all I care, if that is what it takes to hang on to every last home game.

The problem isn't UND. It's Big Game. Because Stanford and Ca*l refuse (correctlly, IMO) to play on Thanksgiving Saturday, we have an open date that weekend. Half the time we fill it with UND. The rest of the time, we're probably going to be playing UCLA, because US*C is playing UND. If we dump UND, who do we bring in? Davis? Fresno St.?

Or we could simply not play that weekend, and forfeit our bye week during the year.

Steve Durrett