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Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Stymie - 04-15-2014

Thanks for that SI article, Garvin.  It confirms my ancient but still pretty accurate long term memory in that it says:

1.  Lofton was not a highly recruited football player
2.  In his first 2-3 years he was dissed by the football coaches for doing T&F in the Spring
3.  Until Walsh came and discovered and developed and used his talent, he was going nowhere near where he ended after that year udner Walsh
4.  Regardless of 1-3 above, James Lofton was and continues to be an exteremely talented and impressive person

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - unclechuck - 04-15-2014

Farm93 - thanks for the nice share & perspective. The near disappearance of the dual meet is much lamented by most college t&f fans. There are still advocates in the track community working to renew scheduling of duals, but the travel costs for large co-ed squads is a daunting hurdle for Olympic (non-revenue) sports.

If you still enjoy following the sport there's a wonderful, non-denominational, blog that does a great job of covering both pro and college T&F that provides great links and a nice blend of enthusiasm, irreverence, and humor:

http://dailyrelay.com/

BobK - as always, thanks for your inside details on this year's performance, the nice Olson link, and the encouraging recruiting news.

71Bear - cheers for providing our superb women's swim coach from your modest portfolio of consistently excellent programs; much appreciated!

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BobK - 04-15-2014

Harrison Williams just moved to # 3 all time HS and with HS hurdles and weights at 7500+ points

Lofton was a brobdingnagian FB recruit. :).  Darrin Nelson was a sprinter LJer at roughly the same time. 

Brandt-Sims says he will run track as do the track coaches.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Stymie - 04-16-2014

From SI, Dec 1982

"At Washington High School in Los Angeles, he'd been a skinny quarterback with long strides but little else going for him. "If I'd been any good I think USC or UCLA would have recruited me," Lofton says."

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Roberton3 - 04-19-2014

(04-14-2014, 07:44 AM)Stymie link Wrote:Outside of Hussain Bolt, how many runners and jumpers make a journeyman NFL/MLB/NBA salary.

Not only that, but if you're one of the world's top NFL/MLB/NBA players, people usually spell your name correctly...

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - 82 Card - 04-23-2014

Part of the Stanford track team will be in action this week in Philadelphia at the Penn Relays. The full schedule of events Stanford is competing in is at http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/team.aspx?s=1706

After their success at the indoor NCAA championship, our guys are among the favorites in the Distance Medley Championship of America: http://www.thepennrelays.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1720&ATCLID=209467794

In case anyone isn't familiar with the event: The Penn Relays are an annual five day track and field festival at Franklin Field. There are events for various levels of competition ranging from fourth grade through masters. The web site claims over 22,000 participants. In my days as a student at Penn, it was a great excuse for not studying for finals.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BobK - 04-23-2014

The  Penn Relays on TV Saturday.  In fact two meets from 9:30 to 2.  NBC sports iirc.  A number of Stanford distance relay teams and several recruits.  Those not at The Penn will be at a cal meet Friday and Saturday.   

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Rally - 06-17-2014

(04-13-2014, 11:03 AM)71Bear link Wrote:Payton Jordan must be spinning in his grave over the disintegration of the Stanford Track program.  What happened?

This :)

http://www.gostanford.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30600&ATCLID=209523429

But we could have been even MORE elite (eliter??) - Redrum - 06-17-2014

This guy.  Coulda shoulda woulda.  We were SO close...became a duck instead.  Second fastest time in the history of the NCAA.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/15/breaking-oregons-devon-allen-is-a-fast-human-being/

And yes, all I would have cared about, really, is whether he played football.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - CowboyIndian - 06-17-2014

I don't think Pat Morrison....or some other track guys from the 60s...really give a damn if Payton Jordan is spinning.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19660510&id=nM0zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qOgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7115,3550609

https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=34059

Ho-ly mo-ly !! - Redrum - 06-17-2014

WOW!  I don't know when Jordan retired.  I never caught a whiff of this while on campus and despite the larger world issues that dominated the whole sky,  there were enough local campus issues put in play that you'd think something like those cited would have made it into the campus uproar. 

So, now it's time to toss Payton overboard by noting that his claim to fame and early foundations were set as part of USC's college track program.  In fact,  Jordan gets a cameo in the opening chapters of Lauren Hillenbrand's  outstanding book  Unbroken.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BobK - 06-17-2014

Stanford has so much trouble getting sprinters and two we got were Jack Scott and Charlie Francis.  Presume all here know their life stories. 

So Bear 71 how close is cal to dropping T&F.  Biggest drain on our budget says the wonderful Ms Barbor.  ZERO points scored by the Men and Women of the campus of the lost in the past week's NCAA meet.   

Brutus Hamliton is rolling over in his grave.  Sadly. 

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - yvonne - 06-17-2014

Charlie Francis? Seriously?

That's nothing to be proud of.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BostonCard - 06-17-2014

(06-17-2014, 03:05 PM)BobK link Wrote:Stanford has so much trouble getting sprinters and two we got were Jack Scott and Charlie Francis.  Presume all here know their life stories. 

So 59er 71 how close is Low APR U to dropping T&F.  Biggest drain on our budget says the wonderful Ms Barbor.  ZERO points scored by the Men and Women of the campus of the lost in the past week's NCAA meet.   

Brutus Hamliton is rolling over in his grave.  Sadly.

Not all of us knew their stories...

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/columns/story?id=5186345

Looks like there is a bit more than meets the eye to Francis, though I agree that there is still nothing to be proud of in the story.

BC

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BobK - 06-17-2014

i don't think I used the word Proud.  I was just saying...... :)  here are two of our former sprinters. 

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - yvonne - 06-17-2014

I misread Bob's original message as "Stanford has so much trouble getting sprinters but two we got were Jack Scott and Charlie Francis," and concluded he was proud of Francis.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Stymie - 06-17-2014

During Francis's time at Stanford we also had world-class sprinters and exemplary alumni such as Larry Questad and Menzies Campbell.

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - BobK - 06-18-2014

Thanks Yvonne.  I don't see a Reply to an individual on the Board.  Is their one?  Or just to the tread? 

Scott of course involved with Patty Hearst and friends. 

Francis from Memory was after Questad.  Charlie certainly wasn't part of our world record 4 x 100 relay. 



Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Stymie - 06-18-2014

In baseball there are great players and HOF players, and the GPs are a very small subset of the HOFP's, plus a few outliers.  Rose and Shoeless Joe will always each be one of the very few outliers amongst that set of the very few (less than 50) players who deserved to be called "great," but neither will be in the HOF (at least in my lifetime).

Re: What happened to LSJU's rich track heritage? - Stymie - 06-18-2014

(06-18-2014, 07:53 AM)BobK link Wrote:Thanks Yvonne.  I don't see a Reply to an individual on the Board.  Is their one?  Or just to the tread? 

Scott of course involved with Patty Hearst and friends. 

Francis from Memory was after Questad.  Charlie certainly wasn't part of our world record 4 x 100 relay.

BobK

Even though Questad was 5 years older than Francis, I'm pretty sure he was hanging about the farm in the late 60's prior to his participation in the 1968 Olympics (6th in famous 200 behind Smith and Carlos).  Of course, you probably know that.

Stymie