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Re: Categorical - oman - 06-19-2014

(06-19-2014, 02:51 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:My reaction to oman's list is a sigh: even cinema buffs, apparently, can't recognize that Tarantino's best film is Jackie Brown.

It's True Romance, mostly because he had a better director.

Re: Categorical - CornFed - 06-19-2014

(06-19-2014, 02:51 PM)Hulk01 link Wrote:Gravity in 3D on a brobdingnagian screen floored me. . .

A tear falling and drifting into open space just floored me!

Re: Categorical - Hulk01 - 06-20-2014

Phrased it too strongly: by an reasonable definition of the word "great," there have been many great movies--"top to bottom and inside out."  Godfather II does stand alone for me: the story became real to me.  My second favorite movie would have to be listed at number three for that reason.

One thing that brought the quality of this year's movie into high relief for me was my research for my second novel, set in 1967.  Check the list of that year's top 20 movies and let me know if your reaction isn't, "Dear God." 

Re: Categorical - martyup - 06-20-2014

Joe Dirt

Re: Categorical - Bruce Wang - 06-21-2014

It is categorical...garvin is a much better writer than I.  terry is...hell, all of you-- are smarter than I.  And Cowboy Indian is funnier than all of us combined.  But this one time, I AM categorically correct.  Go see the movie Edge of Tomorrow.  Don't ask questions.  Just do it. 

Seriously.  Best movie I've seen since Blade Runner.  It's the alien love child of Groundhog Day and Starship Troopers.  If you liked those movies, you will LOVE this one.

Its disappointing box office perplexes me.  Critics and audiences love it.  Seems destined to be a cult classic like the aforementioned Blade Runner.


Re: Categorical - doublespiral - 06-22-2014

(06-21-2014, 07:45 PM)Publius link Wrote:It's the alien love child of Groundhog Day and Starship Troopers.

So funny. My girlfriend and I walked out of that movie with that exact same mash-up in mind. We were envisioning the pitch a la The Player.

We enjoyed the flick, though weren't as over the moon as you were.

If it hasn't done well at the box office, that surprises me as well. Tom Cruise, despite being
Tom Cruise, is still Tom Cruise.

Summer fun.

Re: Categorical - terry - 06-28-2014

(06-15-2014, 02:49 PM)Redrum link Wrote:It is categorical...garvin is a much better writer than I.  terry is...hell, all of you-- are smarter than I.  And Cowboy Indian is funnier than all of us combined.  But this one time, I AM categorically correct.  Go see the movie "CHEF".  Don't ask questions.  Just do it.  It will make you feel better.  Take a break from the Obama Wars,  ISIS,  mysteriously disappearing airliners and go see it.  I was not in much of a mood for a movie but went on a Bay Area friend's recommendation.  He is seldom wrong and wasn't wrong this time.  Sure, it's got a big dollop of sentimentality,  but go anyway.  It is clever and well-written enough to more than make up for it.  Maybe eat before you go, but you'll be hungry when you come out.  The audience where I watched it was moaning during the food shots.  We joined in.  That's some good cookin'.

Just go.  You can abuse me later if it doesn't make you feel hungry or feel better.

We saw Chef yesterday. Really enjoyed it! Thanks for the recommendation.

Re: Categorical - terry - 07-05-2014

(06-21-2014, 07:45 PM)Publius link Wrote:Go see the movie Edge of Tomorrow.  Don't ask questions.  Just do it. 

Seriously.  Best movie I've seen since Blade Runner.  It's the alien love child of Groundhog Day and Starship Troopers.  If you liked those movies, you will LOVE this one.

Its disappointing box office perplexes me.  Critics and audiences love it.  Seems destined to be a cult classic like the aforementioned Blade Runner.

Just saw Edge of Tomorrow. Really enjoyed it. Thumbs up.

Re: Categorical - CowboyIndian - 07-05-2014

We are sort of behind on our moviegoing but we did manage to see "Birth of a Nation" recently. I don't know what all the fuss is about, really....except for the Klan thing.

Re: Categorical - Mick - 07-06-2014

(07-05-2014, 04:57 PM)terry link Wrote:[quote author=Publius link=topic=10113.msg91454#msg91454 date=1403405105]
Go see the movie Edge of Tomorrow.  Don't ask questions.  Just do it. 

Seriously.  Best movie I've seen since Blade Runner.  It's the alien love child of Groundhog Day and Starship Troopers.  If you liked those movies, you will LOVE this one.

Its disappointing box office perplexes me.  Critics and audiences love it.  Seems destined to be a cult classic like the aforementioned Blade Runner.

Just saw Edge of Tomorrow. Really enjoyed it. Thumbs up.
[/quote]


Same.  Smart script, entertaining, great concept. 

More Thumbs up for Edge of Tomorrow - Redrum - 07-11-2014

1.  Based on the recommendations here, we went to see it tonight.  Was glad we did.

2.  This movie pushes the meme into new territory on time-travel/time-driven science fiction.  It goes beyond the usual what-if-the-time-traveler meets his future self conundrum.  Groundhog Day on meth is more like it. It really does hang together.  They lay out the rules, then sticking to those rules drives the plot.  I want to say "right up to the final scene"...which is just a little bit ambiguous, but it's not a big deal as long as they stifle the urge to make a sequel.

3.  This is the first movie in a l-o-n-g, l-o-n-g time where it did not star Tom Cruise as "Tom Cruise" playing the movie character.  His redemption isn't complete, but you get to see Tom Cruise playing his movie character without that other "Tom Cruise" persona as intermediary.  If that makes any sense.  But it works and I hope he can make more movies the same way.

4.  Like all "big" movies it's pretty much an orgy of CGI, but so are most sci-fi movies these days.  You just gotta roll with it.

5.  Blade Runner is a good benchmark for sci-fi movies.  Didn't hurt that it was based on a novel by one of the best sci-fi writers ever, but in BR's case, the movie might have been better than the book.  It had a deeper aesthetic and blazed new ground in sci-fi cinema.    Edge of Tomorrow is neither of those.  BUT...it IS a darned entertaining movie that has merits of its own.  Like I said, glad we went and thanks to those people here whose movie credibility jumped with this one.

Re: Categorical - martyup - 07-12-2014

(07-05-2014, 06:13 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:We are sort of behind on our moviegoing but we did manage to see "Birth of a Nation" recently. I don't know what all the fuss is about, really....except for the Klan thing.

Your next assignment is to watch Song of the South.

And your assignment - Redrum - 07-12-2014

To make Songs of the South singular. 

What do you have about little blue birds flitting about pulling strands of flowers?

Re:My Deset Island Movies - FarmDad.01 - 07-12-2014

Typically late to the thread in off-season, but my eyes were caught by the heavy movie comments.

So being FarmDad.01, I'm obviously not young. Over my misspent life, part of it as a showbiz journalist, I've seen probably 10,000 movie and unfortunately can remember lowlights and highlights from many.

I now own about two dozen DVDs/VCRs of my favorites. If stranded on a desert isle with a solar-powered playback device, here are the dozen I'd stash in a waterproof backpack before making for shore. Each is one that I make it a point to revisit at least every three or four years:

American Grafitti; 1973 (dir. George Lucas).
Apocalpyse Now; 1979 (dir. Frances F. Coppola).
Dr. Strangelove; 1964 (dir. Stanley Kubrick).
8½; 1963 (dir. Federico Fellini).
High Tide; 1987 (dir. Gillian Armstrong).
Ikiru; 1952 (dir. Akira Kurosawa).
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The; 1962 (dir. John Ford).
Outlaw Josey Wales, The; 1976 (dir. Clint Eastwood).
Road Warrior, The; 1981 (dir. George Miller).
Run Lola Run; 1998 (dir. Tom Twyker).
Terminator, The; 1984 (dir. James Cameron).
Wild Bunch, The; 1969 (dir. Sam Peckinpah).

Heavy on the action stuff? Yes. But what makes a motion picture different from a play, or a novel, is its plausible presentation of humans acting against a recognizable backdrop. No significant special effects beyond those used for [i]The Terminator.[i]

Re:My Deset Island Movies - dabigv13 - 07-12-2014

(07-12-2014, 03:38 PM)FarmDad.01 link Wrote:[font=times new roman][size=12pt]
Outlaw Josey Wales, The; 1976 (dir. Clint Eastwood).

Recently learned some interesting background on that movie from a This American Life episode. The novel it was based on was written by Forrest Carter, a Cherokee Indian writer also known for his memoir, The Education of Little Tree.

Except Forrest Carter wasn't a Cherokee and his name wasn't really Forrest. His actual identity was Asa Earl Carter, a former Klansmen and the speechwriter who wrote George Wallace's infamous "segregation forever" speech. After unsuccessfully running on a White Supremacist platform against Wallace in a later campaign for Governor of Alabama, he dropped off the face of the earth, and reinvented himself. He took the name Forrest as a nod to Nathan Bedford Forrest. Interestingly, though there were some news reports even back in the 70s of this duplicity, his "memoir" became famous as a unifying story of environmentalism and simple Native American living, and was even touted by Oprah, until she learned of the author's past.

Re: Categorical - socalstanfan1 - 07-13-2014

I have to be the dissenting voice on Edge of Tomorrow. At first I found it interesting, but later felt it was a bit disappointing. I liked both Run, Lola, Run and Groundhog Day much better.

My list - Hulk01 - 07-13-2014

Silence of the Lambs
Dr. Strangelove
Godfather II
Man on Wire
Double Indemnity 
L.A. Confidential
The Thin Blue Line
The Graduate
Schindler’s List
Chinatown
Bonnie and Clyde
Rear Window
Anatomy Of A Murder
Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
Up
Babe
Unforgiven
Sunset Boulevard

My favorite 11 movies and a few ties for 12th - Mick - 07-13-2014

1. Saving Private Ryan
2. Schindler’s List
3. Caddyshack
4. Sideways
5. Old School
6. Godfather
7. Usual Suspects
8. Tombstone
9. Raiders of the Lost Ark
10. Raging Bull
11. Animal House

And a tie for 12th:

40 Year Old Virgin
50 First Dates
A Soldier’s Story
Adventures of Robin Hood (Errol Flynn version)
American Beauty
Apocalypse Now
Argo
Band of Brothers
Bend it Like Beckham
Blues Brothers
Bourne Ultimatum
Braveheart
Breaking Bad
Bridesmaids
Casablanca
Chariots of Fire
City of God
Clockwork Orange
Crash
Das Boot
Dazed and Confused (my generation’s American Graffiti)
Dodgeball
Four Weddings & a Funeral
Gladiator
Godfather 2
Good Will Hunting
Goodfellas
Gran Torino
Groundhog Day
Guys & Dolls
Harry Potter movies
Homeland
Iron Man
It Happened One Night
It’s a Wonderful Life
James Bond (all Sean Connery, all Daniel Craig, one of the Pierce Brosnan, none of the rest)
Jaws
Jerry Maguire
Jurassic Park
Kelly’s Heroes
King’s Speech
LA Confidential
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Lord of the Rings movies
Master & Commander; the Far Side of the World
Million Dollar Baby
Mission Impossible
Moneyball
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Mystery Men
Mystic River
North by Northwest
Notting Hill
Ocean’s 11 and 13
On the Waterfront
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Payback
Platoon
Princess Bride
Rob Roy
Rocky
Say Anything
Shakespeare in Love
Shallow Graves
Shawshank Redemption
Silver Linings Playbook
Silverado
Sleepless in Seattle
Snatch
Sons of Katy Elder
Spider-Man (both originals, not the sequels)
Star Wars spectrum
Stripes
Taken
The Avengers
The Big Chill
The Big Lebowski
The Breakfast Club
The Commitments
The Dark Knight
The Departed
The Descendants
The Full Monty
The Graduate
The Great Escape
the Hurt Locker
the Incredibles
The Italian Job (Wahlberg)
The King’s Speech
The Longest Day
The Magnificent Seven
the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Quiet Man
The Shining
The Sixth Sense
The Sting
The Thin Man
The Three Musketeers (Oliver Reed version, in fact, anything with Oliver Reed)
The Wedding Singer
There’s Something About Mary
Thor
Toy Story
Traffic
True Grit (with Bridges)
Unforgiven
Wedding Crashers
West Side Story
Zero Dark Thirty

Re: My favorite 11 movies and a few ties for 12th - martyup - 07-13-2014

(07-13-2014, 03:02 PM)Mick link Wrote:3. Caddyshack
11. Animal House
12th: It’s a Wonderful Life

I give you props for including these three.  However, I cannot agree on Sideways.  That one goes in my bottom 10 list, along with American Beauty and Womb.

Re: Categorical - Leftcoast - 07-13-2014

We're all friends here, right? No need to impress each other?

This is my top 10 list, not based upon "artistic" films to fill out a critics Best Movie list but based upon films I've seen again ... and again ... and again.  Films I pull out when I want to show the kids there was fun stuff to watch before they were born; several before I was born. 

Hey, I liked Citizen Kane and Raging Bull but I wouldn't go out of my way to see them again.

Top 10
(In no particular order)

The Sting (Redford and Newman at their best. 'Nuf said )
Star Wars - The Empire Strikes Back. (Best of the first trilogy - Lucas should have stopped at three)
The Fellowship of the Ring  (Walked in praying "Please don't screw this up." Jackson didn't)
The Shawshank Redemption (What IS it about this movie?  Every time I see it while channel surfing I stop clicking)
Casablanca (Saw it first as an outdoor summer movie - at Donner, I believe.)
Spirited Away (My fave from Studio Ghibli - The movie on this list that may cause some head scratching)
The Princess Bride (Beats AH for quotable lines - at least for me)
Bull Durham (Best sports movie, right?)
The Philadelphia Story (Cary Grant, Kate Hepburn AND Jimmy Stewart.  Nobody really talks like that but I wish they did)
Inception (Modern cool and the only real life CGI fest on my list.  Still debating what actually happened)

Honorable Mention:  Vertigo, Bladerunner, Lawrence of Arabia, Top Gun, Groundhog Day