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Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - CompSci87 - 07-06-2014

(07-06-2014, 08:53 PM)ca245 link Wrote:Isn't Leticia Romero, who was involved in the recent dispute with Kansas State about a release from her scholarship to enable her to transfer, from Spain?

No, she is from the Canary Islands.

http://m.espn.go.com/ncw/story?storyId=11058363&src=desktop

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - Jskass - 07-06-2014

Spanish archipelago. Apparently several of the Spanish players on the U17 team will be attending school in the US.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-07-2014

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article510437/Former-K-State-women%E2%80%99s-basketball-player-Leticia-Romero-transfers-to-Florida-State.html

The Canary Islands are a former colony of Spain's and have had a mild independence movement for some time, but their citizens would still travel under a Spanish passport.  A little like Puerto Rico for the U.S.

But Romero does exemplify the kind of top quality players that are coming out of Spain these days.  It is by far the leader in this level of European WBB, as all its European championships attest.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - BobK - 07-07-2014

I'm in Oregon at the End of Trail tournament with 250 girls travel teams.    Yesterday was the first day that D1 coaches can observe so they missed day 1 on Saturday. 

Kat Tudor at Mary's Stockton is a favorite of mine. A 2016. 6 of 9 from 3 and 22 points.  Ionescu is on her team.  Hoping she joins the team for tomorrow's championships. 

Chou with A's and B's doesn't sound great need few B's many A's or Door # 1

But love a certain 6-4 Post 2016 from Reno with those grades so here's hoping for both. 

Amy and Tara both here.

Commit # 2 - BobK - 07-07-2014

Marta Sniezek 5-6 PG from DC.  29.9 pogo
# 50 Blue Star # 78 PN. # 16 PG Espn

This is out of the Blue to me. 

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - CompSci87 - 07-07-2014

(07-07-2014, 07:09 AM)81alum link Wrote:The Canary Islands are a former colony of Spain's and have had a mild independence movement for some time, but their citizens would still travel under a Spanish passport.  A little like Puerto Rico for the US.

Thanks for the info! A little googling (which is all I did) is a dangerous thing.

Re: Commit # 2 - 81alum - 07-07-2014

(07-07-2014, 09:32 AM)BobK link Wrote:Marta Sniezek 5-6 PG from DC.  29.9 pogo
# 50 Blue Star # 78 PN. # 16 PG Espn

This is out of the Blue to me.
Thanks Bob!  Out of the blue indeed.  Let's hope that Tara has once again discovered a superb player who was largely overlooked in the ratings.

I seem to recall that Grace Mashore was also from National Cathedral, an elite private school in DC.  In fact, I was there just a couple of weeks ago looking at...the National Cathedral!  But you folks do not want to know the details about the world's fifth largest gothic cathedral, I am sure....

Here is the blog that Bob found on Marta Sniezek announcing her commitment to Stanford.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2014/07/07/national-cathedral-g-marta-sniezek-commits-to-stanford/

Here is a news story about a game in which Marta scored 43 points against tough competition:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2014/02/19/national-cathedral-g-marta-sniezek-scores-season-high-43-points/

Quote:“I think I’m just developing very well,” Sniezek said. “I wasn’t completely comfortable with threes but I’m taking what the defense gives me now. If they play tight I will drive, and if not I’ll take the three — they can’t really take away anything.”
Quote:“Academics are first for me,” Sniezek said. ” Basketball is going to be brobdingnagian part of life, but not the be-all and end-all.
According to the article, more than a dozen schools offered her but she discouraged all but the most prestigious academic institutions, which may explain why she did not get more notice.  It came down to Harvard vs. Stanford for her.

She also was the Gatorade DC player-of-the-year, and DC has a lot of good basketball.
http://www.usatodayhss.com/article/district-of-columbia-girls-basketball-poy-marta-sniezek

Here is what an opposing coach said about her:
Quote: “I can’t say enough about Marta Sniezek as a player and a game-changer,” said Bobby Asher, head coach at Georgetown Day. “When we played them most recently in a close game, she was our absolute focus. We left other girls wide open, double teaming Sniezek every time she touched it. Still, we couldn't really stop her. Defensively, she absolutely changes the game. I’ve never seen more of a one-man wrecking crew. Every time I watch her, she makes a couple of plays that I can only marvel at.”

I am very struck by the number of point guards we have been recruiting of late.  It is such a complete reversal of our situation from a few years ago, when we were always the tallest team but lacked ball handling.  As fans, I think we are in for some fairly interesting changes in style of play.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - BobK - 07-07-2014

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2014/07/07/national-cathedral-g-marta-sniezek-commits-to-stanford/



Re: Commit # 2 - Robbie - 07-07-2014

(07-07-2014, 10:40 AM)81alum link Wrote:...But you folks do not want to know the details about the world's fifth largest gothic cathedral, I am sure....

Don't you mean 'fifth largest "gothic" cathedral'? Or 'gothic-revival'? This cathedral was not built between the 12th and 16th centuries. (I am a big non-fan of pseudo-old architecture. One of the reasons I like the Stanford campus as opposed to, say, Yale.)

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - BobK - 07-07-2014

And more.  Thank you slide.

Fairfax Stars always one of the top travel teams in the US

http://www.fairfaxstars.org/player_page.asp?player_id=506

Re: Commit # 2 - 81alum - 07-07-2014

(07-07-2014, 11:34 AM)Robbie link Wrote:[quote author=81alum link=topic=10159.msg91994#msg91994 date=1404754801]
...But you folks do not want to know the details about the world's fifth largest gothic cathedral, I am sure....

Don't you mean 'fifth largest "gothic" cathedral'? Or 'gothic-revival'? This cathedral was not built between the 12th and 16th centuries. (I am a big non-fan of pseudo-old architecture. One of the reasons I like the Stanford campus as opposed to, say, Yale.)
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I learned that there is a real dispute amongst architectural historians on how to categorize it.  It was planned during the gothic revival period, but unlike nearly all the other neo-gothic buildings coming from the late 19th and early 20th centuries (Princeton's chapel among them, or the University of Chicago) this building stayed unusually true to the English Gothic style of the fourteenth century.  For example, the architect took deliberate action to avoid making the lines too perfect and thus betray its modern heritage.  On the other hand, what is obviously modern about it are the scenes depicted in the relief sculpture and stained glass, including the space window focused on a moon rock, or the depiction of famous Americans rather than saints.  That is certainly not 14th Century!  In any case, since I have not taken my daughter to Europe, this is as good as it gets in giving her the experience of a Gothic cathedral. 

And this is really off topic, except for the fact that Marta Sniezek goes to school in its shadow every day!

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - Jskass - 07-07-2014

Okay, so request for clarification: I'm under the impression that we have 7 scholarships for 2015 and 2016 in total (max of 4 for 2015). So if we now have 2 2015 commits and we're fortunate enough to have Lambert and McWilliams commit, then for 2016 we only will have 3 remaining. Of those I assume one is spoken for by Wilson, meaning we can only get 2 others, right?

From what I read previously and above, there are several players in that class that we'd like to target including Cox, Boley, maybe Chou (sounds like her grades may not suffice), perhaps Ionescu (though I don't know her grades, and have to presume that in CA Cal and UCLA would push hard and 2500 miles away the UConn fans are salivating) and at least 2 post players (Celeste West and the above-mentioned Reno player).

Are we potentially ending up without enough scholarships for 2016? If not, what have I misinterpreted?

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-07-2014

OK, the run-down on scholarships:

Our 2014 roster currently has 12 players listed, and we know Brooks, McPhee and Kaylee Johnson are coming in to take the three remaining scholarships, so we start all even. 

There is a little room for doubt, though, even there.  I think Bri Roberson did not initially have a scholarship, but she and Ruef took the two freed up when Toni and Ally medically retired.  Ruef of course is now gone, and it is obvious that Bri is going to be able to keep that scholarship for a second year since it would otherwise be wasted.  But I do not know if Tara made a multi-year commitment to Bri or not, or whether she was thought to be a walk-on who would get any extra scholarships that happened to be available.  That would be private information between them.  So we just don't know if there might be some extra flexibility in the scholarships or not.   

For 2015 Greenfield, Orrange, Payne, and Bonnie Samuelson complete their eligibility, so that means a minimum of 4 to give to the incoming class of  2015.  Jasmine Camp and Alex Green are part of that famous "sixpack" but they each have a medical redshirt so either or both could potentially be back for a fifth year.  I have heard Amy say quite emphatically, however, that a fifth year is never guaranteed to any athlete--that the decision to grant someone a year beyond their graduation is based exclusively on the best interests of the team.  (So, for example, Michelle Harrison did not get a fifth year, but did receive Tara's help in transferring to Utah for a final year of eligibility there.)  So that means we could have up to 6 for 2015--even 7 if the Roberson scholarship is not promised.  But given that 2016 looks more promising than 2015, I would not be at all surprised if both Jasmine and Alex got an extra year to save those two scholarship for 2016.  Amber will have graduated and having a couple of extra senior guards could not hurt.  So assuming that happens and assuming that Bri keeps her scholarship too, that would give us 4 scholarships for 2015, two of which have been committed so far.

For 2016 Camp and Green will be out of eligibility assuming they were given fifth years, and Tess Picknell will graduate, giving us a total of 3 to award, one of which has been committed so far (barring any medical retirements or other unforeseen developments.)

One other thing to keep in mind--the fact that a player has committed does not necessarily mean they are getting a scholarship.  Almost always it does, but as with Bri Roberson we know that a walk-on can commit and then be funded as scholarships come available.  Our latest recruit, for example, was seriously considering Harvard which offers no athletic scholarships.  Would she have come to Stanford for its combination of basketball and academics even without a scholarship, but as a preferred walk-on?  Interesting question.

Summary:  I expect we have 4 to give in 2015 and 3 to give in 2016.  Given KLS's decision I half expect Tara to save one of the 4 (perhaps it goes to a walk-on for a year) and do 3 this year and 4 next.  And if the right commits do not break our way between now and letter of intent day, perhaps she will stop with just the two that have committed and give 5 next year.  (By the way, I thought at first we just had 3 this year but Bob corrected me--who else but our resident basketball guru!  Of course after this it all depends on how those 5th years break.)

More interesting is the distribution of those scholarships to guards vs. bigs.  I imagine it will get much harder for guards to get an offer after this year given how many great guards we are attracting and the commitment to Wilson, but the welcome mat for posts will be a mile long. 

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-07-2014

(07-07-2014, 09:05 PM)ferrari link Wrote:I am naive, but it seems to me all scholarships, for all schools, ought to be for four years, as long as the athlete shows up, puts in effort, follows the rules, etc.  Harder on the coaches?  Yes.  Requires more thoughtful appraisals.  But if mandated for all schools would be, I think, more fair to the kids.

I started a different thread to answer this legitimate question, since it will probably inspire a lot of discussion unrelated to WBB recruiting.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - Jskass - 07-07-2014

so it sounds like an offer is an offer...until the year's limit is hit? So if there are 2 left for this year and those top 2 players (Lambert and McWilliams) wait too long they could be shut out? Interesting.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-07-2014

I just added Nora Kiesler at the top of the list after finding a fairly recent article indicating that we have offered her a scholarship and that she has it down to us and Louisville.  A 6'6" post.  This short video shows her scoring.  She is easy enough to find on the floor!

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/story/d/story/parkview-tops-assumption/28189/DSJOo0jkLkq8CO-NjRoVlg

She also plays volleyball and won a state title.

One worrisome thing, though--she was out much of the year with a concussion.

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-09-2014

A recent article on Katie McWilliams from the tournament that BobK is visiting:

http://highschoolsports.oregonlive.com/news/article/200790034574513408/south-salem-standout-katie-mcwilliams-has-her-college-list-narrowed-to-six-including-oregon-state-and-oregon-end-of-the-trail-tournament/

If she does not come to Stanford, we will still get to know her well, since we will be playing against her. 
Quote:McWilliams says her top five are Oregon State, UCLA, Stanford, Washington and Arizona State, but with the change in coaching staffs at Oregon, the Ducks are also in the mix. Geography played a brobdingnagian role in McWilliams’ finalists, as she wants to play close to home.

Her father is a coach, and the family apparently knows Scott Rueck fairly well.  I think she is genuinely still deciding, by the sounds of it.

Also of interest is her dedication to playing guard despite her 6'2" frame. 
Quote:Even though she grew to be 6-2, McWilliams has always played guard. Nick McWilliams said she learned the game competing against boys, which paid dividends now that she plays guard despite being one of the tallest players on the floor.

Just for fun, here is a youtube up of McWilliams hitting a half court shot.....as an 11 year old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0ibKKzLvQ

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - 81alum - 07-15-2014

There is an interesting debate about Stanford's current recruiting strategy going on over at the Bearinsider:
http://www.bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84895

One of them claims to know that Kiesler has cleared admissions and they are assuming that she is coming to Stanford.  They are also speculating about Tara's decision to recruit a couple of 3 star point guards--that it may be a deliberate strategy to get faster and change our style of play.

This is the season when the most fun is to be had with unfounded but entertaining speculation and prognostication. 

Interesting to note that one of the bear's more knowledgeable posters claims that they love Tara over there and have realized that it is in the best interests of all teams in the Pac12 to support each other and keep the enormous west coast talent pool home for college. 

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - BobK - 07-15-2014

Marta is a 4 star on three sites.  Romano seems to be a 2

Very good eval of Marta on PN. 

I post there.  Just to keep then honest. :)

Re: WBB: Recruiting Roundup - BobK - 07-17-2014

A review of Marta from this past week's EYBL tourney. 

A lot of what the defense gives is a result of the attack from 2015 point guard Marta Sniezek.  A 5-7 fireball, she’s without a doubt one of those you would rather play with than against.  Sniezek is smart, skilled and competitive on par with anyone she’ll line up against.  She also has 30 assists more than any other player in the EYBL.Â