RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-06-2025
Next power hitter after Bryce Eldridge: Parks Harber, who came to the Giants in the Camilo Doval trade.
SF Giants power-hitting prospect listed as under-the-radar player in Arizona Fall League
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
gailtate - 10-07-2025
The faster Buster Posey hires Nick Hundley to be manager, the better. Period.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-07-2025
Lot of candidates being mentioned:
Name / Background / why they’re floated / Pros & potential hurdles
Nick Hundley
Former Giants catcher, now a special assistant with the Rangers. He’s reportedly already interviewed for the job.
Heavy Sports+3San Francisco Chronicle+3Just Baseball+3
He fits the “catcher-turned-manager” stereotype, and his ties to the organization help. The question: does he want to take the job now?
Around the Foghorn+3McCovey Chronicles+3Heavy Sports+3
Craig Albernaz
Currently an associate manager (with a catching/organizational background) and a prior Giants coaching connection.
San Francisco Standard+3San Francisco Chronicle+3MLB.com+3
He might represent a more continuity/younger option. But he lacks prior MLB managerial experience.
Skip Schumaker
Former MLB manager (Marlins) and advisor. NBC Sports Bay Area+3MLB.com+3SI+3
He has MLB managerial experience, which helps. But whether he meshes with Posey’s vision is an open question.
Mark Hallberg
Currently a first-base coach for the Giants, has been cited in rumors.
Just Baseball+3SFGATE+3NBC Sports Bay Area+3
Internal candidate, has familiarity with the club. But his lack of top-level managing experience is a drawback.
Rocco Baldelli
Recently let go as Twins manager; his name has come up for the Giants job.
San Francisco Chronicle+2San Francisco Standard+2
He has managerial experience and credibility. A possible “outside” option.
Mark DeRosa
A frequent commentator and formerly a front-office / baseball operations type in some contexts.
SI+2NBC Sports Bay Area+2
Less conventional for an MLB manager (more media / analyst background), which could be a strength or a hurdle depending on how the Giants view the role.
Tony Vitello
Currently a very successful college coach (Tennessee). He’s being floated as an “out-of-the-box” candidate.
Baseball Network
He would represent a larger leap — no MLB experience yet. But his success in the college ranks makes him intriguing to some observers.
Additional possible or speculative names
- Curt Casali — Another former catcher whose name has been floated given the trend of catching backgrounds. San Francisco Chronicle
- Kurt Suzuki — He’s been reported as interviewing with the Giants. San Francisco Chronicle+1
- Ryan Flaherty — Mentioned somewhat in whispers as a wildcard candidate. Around the Foghorn
- Ron Wotus — A long-time Giants coach, occasionally mentioned as a stable internal option.
I think it's going to be Hundley. The Giants might prefer someone with MLB experience (Albernaz, Schumaker, Baldelli). Personally, I prefer Albernaz, not least because of his time with Vogt, who clearly knows how to manage. He worked wonders with Cleveland.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
BrevinsBest - 10-07-2025
Schumaker was announced as the Rangers new manager a few days ago. Cross him off the list.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-07-2025
how about Mike Yastrzemski as bench coach/3rd base coach/manager in waiting? He could join this illustrious list of first-time coach/managers who succeeded wildly with SF Bay Area pro teams:
John Madden
Steve Kerr
Dusty Baker
Kyle Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Tom Flores
Jim Harbaugh
Mark Jackson
Al Attles
George Seifert
Bill Walsh
(10-07-2025, 08:25 AM)Mick Wrote: Lot of candidates being mentioned:
Name / Background / why they’re floated / Pros & potential hurdles
Nick Hundley
Former Giants catcher, now a special assistant with the Rangers. He’s reportedly already interviewed for the job.
Heavy Sports+3San Francisco Chronicle+3Just Baseball+3
He fits the “catcher-turned-manager” stereotype, and his ties to the organization help. The question: does he want to take the job now?
Around the Foghorn+3McCovey Chronicles+3Heavy Sports+3
Craig Albernaz
Currently an associate manager (with a catching/organizational background) and a prior Giants coaching connection.
San Francisco Standard+3San Francisco Chronicle+3MLB.com+3
He might represent a more continuity/younger option. But he lacks prior MLB managerial experience.
Skip Schumaker
Former MLB manager (Marlins) and advisor. NBC Sports Bay Area+3MLB.com+3SI+3
He has MLB managerial experience, which helps. But whether he meshes with Posey’s vision is an open question.
Mark Hallberg
Currently a first-base coach for the Giants, has been cited in rumors.
Just Baseball+3SFGATE+3NBC Sports Bay Area+3
Internal candidate, has familiarity with the club. But his lack of top-level managing experience is a drawback.
Rocco Baldelli
Recently let go as Twins manager; his name has come up for the Giants job.
San Francisco Chronicle+2San Francisco Standard+2
He has managerial experience and credibility. A possible “outside” option.
Mark DeRosa
A frequent commentator and formerly a front-office / baseball operations type in some contexts.
SI+2NBC Sports Bay Area+2
Less conventional for an MLB manager (more media / analyst background), which could be a strength or a hurdle depending on how the Giants view the role.
Brandon Hyde
Santa Rosa native, 51, rode brutal rebuild in Baltimore to create 101 and 91-win seasons and two playoff berths. Experience with Marlins, Cubs and Orioles (where he lasted seven seasons as a manager).
Tony Vitello
Currently a very successful college coach (Tennessee). He’s being floated as an “out-of-the-box” candidate.
Baseball Network
He would represent a larger leap — no MLB experience yet. But his success in the college ranks makes him intriguing to some observers.
Additional possible or speculative names
- Curt Casali — Another former catcher whose name has been floated given the trend of catching backgrounds. San Francisco Chronicle
- Kurt Suzuki — He’s been reported as interviewing with the Giants. San Francisco Chronicle+1
- Ryan Flaherty — Mentioned somewhat in whispers as a wildcard candidate. Around the Foghorn
- Ron Wotus — A long-time Giants coach, occasionally mentioned as a stable internal option.
I think it's going to be Hundley. The Giants might prefer someone with MLB experience (Albernaz, Schumaker, Baldelli). Personally, I prefer Albernaz, not least because of his time with Vogt, who clearly knows how to manage. He worked wonders with Cleveland.
On another topic, the Giants are $83 million below the $244 million tax threshold (I'm assuming they don't pick up Tom Murphy's option). Yes, I know they have lots of players to sign.
How about taking on Sonny Gray's final year of his contract? A bargain at $25 million. He was 14-8 last year, 201 strikeouts in 180 innings.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
lex24 - 10-07-2025
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1759873127' Wrote: 1759873127[/url]']
how about Mike Yastrzemski as bench coach/3rd base coach/manager in waiting? He could join this illustrious list of first-time coach/managers who succeeded wildly with SF Bay Area pro teams:
John Madden
Steve Kerr
Dusty Baker
Kyle Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Tom Flores
Jim Harbaugh
Mark Jackson
Al Attles
George Seifert
Bill Walsh
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1759850717' Wrote: 1759850717[/url]']
Lot of candidates being mentioned:
Name / Background / why they’re floated / Pros & potential hurdles
Nick Hundley
Former Giants catcher, now a special assistant with the Rangers. He’s reportedly already interviewed for the job. Heavy Sports+3San Francisco Chronicle+3Just Baseball+3
He fits the “catcher-turned-manager” stereotype, and his ties to the organization help. The question: does he want to take the job now? Around the Foghorn+3McCovey Chronicles+3Heavy Sports+3
Craig Albernaz
Currently an associate manager (with a catching/organizational background) and a prior Giants coaching connection. San Francisco Standard+3San Francisco Chronicle+3MLB.com+3
He might represent a more continuity/younger option. But he lacks prior MLB managerial experience.
Skip Schumaker
Former MLB manager (Marlins) and advisor. NBC Sports Bay Area+3MLB.com+3SI+3
He has MLB managerial experience, which helps. But whether he meshes with Posey’s vision is an open question.
Mark Hallberg
Currently a first-base coach for the Giants, has been cited in rumors. Just Baseball+3SFGATE+3NBC Sports Bay Area+3
Internal candidate, has familiarity with the club. But his lack of top-level managing experience is a drawback.
Rocco Baldelli
Recently let go as Twins manager; his name has come up for the Giants job. San Francisco Chronicle+2San Francisco Standard+2
He has managerial experience and credibility. A possible “outside” option.
Mark DeRosa
A frequent commentator and formerly a front-office / baseball operations type in some contexts. SI+2NBC Sports Bay Area+2
Less conventional for an MLB manager (more media / analyst background), which could be a strength or a hurdle depending on how the Giants view the role.
Brandon Hyde
Santa Rosa native, 51, rode brutal rebuild in Baltimore to create 101 and 91-win seasons and two playoff berths. Experience with Marlins, Cubs and Orioles (where he lasted seven seasons as a manager).
Tony Vitello
Currently a very successful college coach (Tennessee). He’s being floated as an “out-of-the-box” candidate. Baseball Network
He would represent a larger leap — no MLB experience yet. But his success in the college ranks makes him intriguing to some observers.
Additional possible or speculative names- Curt Casali — Another former catcher whose name has been floated given the trend of catching backgrounds. San Francisco Chronicle
- Kurt Suzuki — He’s been reported as interviewing with the Giants. San Francisco Chronicle+1
- Ryan Flaherty — Mentioned somewhat in whispers as a wildcard candidate. Around the Foghorn
- Ron Wotus — A long-time Giants coach, occasionally mentioned as a stable internal option.
I think it's going to be Hundley. The Giants might prefer someone with MLB experience (Albernaz, Schumaker, Baldelli). Personally, I prefer Albernaz, not least because of his time with Vogt, who clearly knows how to manage. He worked wonders with Cleveland.
On another topic, the Giants are $83 million below the $244 million tax threshold (I'm assuming they don't pick up Tom Murphy's option). Yes, I know they have lots of players to sign.
How about taking on Sonny Gray's final year of his contract? A bargain at $25 million. He was 14-8 last year, 201 strikeouts in 180 innings.
The $83 million doesn’t take into account all the players they will resign on one year deals or tender arbitration contracts to. At the end of the day, they may have maybe $45 to $50,000,000 under the tax. Hopefully they’re willing to go over this year.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Giants - 10-08-2025
lex24 dateline='[url=tel:1759879617' Wrote: 1759879617[/url]']
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1759873127' Wrote: 1759873127[/url]']
how about Mike Yastrzemski as bench coach/3rd base coach/manager in waiting? He could join this illustrious list of first-time coach/managers who succeeded wildly with SF Bay Area pro teams:
John Madden
Steve Kerr
Dusty Baker
Kyle Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Tom Flores
Jim Harbaugh
Mark Jackson
Al Attles
George Seifert
Bill Walsh
Mick dateline='[url=tel:1759850717' Wrote: 1759850717[/url]']
Lot of candidates being mentioned:
Name / Background / why they’re floated / Pros & potential hurdles
Nick Hundley
Former Giants catcher, now a special assistant with the Rangers. He’s reportedly already interviewed for the job. Heavy Sports+3San Francisco Chronicle+3Just Baseball+3
He fits the “catcher-turned-manager” stereotype, and his ties to the organization help. The question: does he want to take the job now? Around the Foghorn+3McCovey Chronicles+3Heavy Sports+3
Craig Albernaz
Currently an associate manager (with a catching/organizational background) and a prior Giants coaching connection. San Francisco Standard+3San Francisco Chronicle+3MLB.com+3
He might represent a more continuity/younger option. But he lacks prior MLB managerial experience.
Skip Schumaker
Former MLB manager (Marlins) and advisor. NBC Sports Bay Area+3MLB.com+3SI+3
He has MLB managerial experience, which helps. But whether he meshes with Posey’s vision is an open question.
Mark Hallberg
Currently a first-base coach for the Giants, has been cited in rumors. Just Baseball+3SFGATE+3NBC Sports Bay Area+3
Internal candidate, has familiarity with the club. But his lack of top-level managing experience is a drawback.
Rocco Baldelli
Recently let go as Twins manager; his name has come up for the Giants job. San Francisco Chronicle+2San Francisco Standard+2
He has managerial experience and credibility. A possible “outside” option.
Mark DeRosa
A frequent commentator and formerly a front-office / baseball operations type in some contexts. SI+2NBC Sports Bay Area+2
Less conventional for an MLB manager (more media / analyst background), which could be a strength or a hurdle depending on how the Giants view the role.
Brandon Hyde
Santa Rosa native, 51, rode brutal rebuild in Baltimore to create 101 and 91-win seasons and two playoff berths. Experience with Marlins, Cubs and Orioles (where he lasted seven seasons as a manager).
Tony Vitello
Currently a very successful college coach (Tennessee). He’s being floated as an “out-of-the-box” candidate. Baseball Network
He would represent a larger leap — no MLB experience yet. But his success in the college ranks makes him intriguing to some observers.
Additional possible or speculative names- Curt Casali — Another former catcher whose name has been floated given the trend of catching backgrounds. San Francisco Chronicle
- Kurt Suzuki — He’s been reported as interviewing with the Giants. San Francisco Chronicle+1
- Ryan Flaherty — Mentioned somewhat in whispers as a wildcard candidate. Around the Foghorn
- Ron Wotus — A long-time Giants coach, occasionally mentioned as a stable internal option.
I think it's going to be Hundley. The Giants might prefer someone with MLB experience (Albernaz, Schumaker, Baldelli). Personally, I prefer Albernaz, not least because of his time with Vogt, who clearly knows how to manage. He worked wonders with Cleveland.
On another topic, the Giants are $83 million below the $244 million tax threshold (I'm assuming they don't pick up Tom Murphy's option). Yes, I know they have lots of players to sign.
How about taking on Sonny Gray's final year of his contract? A bargain at $25 million. He was 14-8 last year, 201 strikeouts in 180 innings.
The $83 million doesn’t take into account all the players they will resign on one year deals or tender arbitration contracts to. At the end of the day, they may have maybe $45 to $50,000,000 under the tax. Hopefully they’re willing to go over this year.
A couple notes:
Gray’s salary for 2026 is $35 million with a $5 million buyout for 2027. Source: Baseball Reference
I don’t think SF can afford that salary (considering they would have to trade St. Louis a player as well).
Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
lex24 -
lex24 - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
No on Dom Smith. Eldridge is going to be OK. And he’s going to be on the major-league roster at some point in ‘26. If it’s not April, then by June. Unless something goes horribly wrong.
Second, Smith is a nice ball player. Pretty good fielding first baseman and had a nice year at the plate. But he’s not a power hitter and he can’t run. Which is not a good combination for a first baseman. He plays no other position.
Also, he can look at the roster situation and see that any playing time he gets will be very limited. Thus, there are probably greener pastures for him elsewhere.
RE: lex24 -
Mick - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 11:17 AM)lex24 Wrote: (10-08-2025, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
No on Dom Smith. Eldridge is going to be OK. And he’s going to be on the major-league roster at some point in ‘26. If it’s not April, then by June. Unless something goes horribly wrong.
Second, Smith is a nice ball player. Pretty good fielding first baseman and had a nice year at the plate. But he’s not a power hitter and he can’t run. Which is not a good combination for a first baseman. He plays no other position.
Also, he can look at the roster situation and see that any playing time he gets will be very limited. Thus, there are probably greener pastures for him elsewhere.
Too bad. He actually led the NL in fielding percentage for left fielders in 2021, but as you pointed out, he has zero speed (worst range factor I can ever remember seeing) and he hasn't played anywhere but first base or DH since then.
Smith was 9th among MLB first basemen with 50 or more games played in batting average at .284. I get it, though...he had a 114 OPS+, but he was under 100 for the four prior years. And he had one error in the field all year. He was -2 Rtot after leading all NL first basemen in Rtot, assists and double plays just two years ago. But I'd rather see Devers or Eldridge play 10x out of 10.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Giants - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
Eldridge’s surgery was not significant. I don’t think that will impact his availability next spring.
Smith could get an offer elsewhere that gives him the opportunity to receive regular playing time. If so, he will probably go in that direction given the Giants have two 1B’s - Devers and Eldridge (in the wings).
As of today:
C - Bailey
1B - Devers
2B - ???
3B - Chapman
ss - Adames
LF - ???
CF - Lee
RF - ???
DH - Ramos
A lot will change between now and March…..
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
lex24 - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 04:11 PM)Giants Wrote: (10-08-2025, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
Eldridge’s surgery was not significant. I don’t think that will impact his availability next spring.
Smith could get an offer elsewhere that gives him the opportunity to receive regular playing time. If so, he will probably go in that direction given the Giants have two 1B’s - Devers and Eldridge (in the wings).
As of today:
C - Bailey
1B - Devers
2B - ???
3B - Chapman
ss - Adames
LF - ???
CF - Lee
RF - ???
DH - Ramos
A lot will change between now and March…..
Ramos is not gonna be the DH.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Giants - 10-08-2025
(10-08-2025, 04:14 PM)lex24 Wrote: (10-08-2025, 04:11 PM)Giants Wrote: (10-08-2025, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2025, 02:19 AM)Giants Wrote: Also, SF is about $50 million below the tax threshold (considering benefits, minor league salaries, etc). Source: Andrew Baggerly, The Athletic.
And, I agree Nick Hundley is the front runner.
We shall soon see if he is Posey’s choice.
Baggerly's basically saying it's Hundley's job if he wants it. There are six other manager openings, and Hundley is an attractive candidate...and one of Posey's best friends.
Hundley lives in San Diego and turned down the opportunity to interview for the role citing family concerns two years ago.
Separate question: should the Giants bring back Dominic Smith, especially given Eldridge's recent wrist surgery?
Eldridge’s surgery was not significant. I don’t think that will impact his availability next spring.
Smith could get an offer elsewhere that gives him the opportunity to receive regular playing time. If so, he will probably go in that direction given the Giants have two 1B’s - Devers and Eldridge (in the wings).
As of today:
C - Bailey
1B - Devers
2B - ???
3B - Chapman
ss - Adames
LF - ???
CF - Lee
RF - ???
DH - Ramos
A lot will change between now and March…..
Ramos is not gonna be the DH.
Yeah, I know. It was more a wish than anything else - I just don’t want to see him playing LF.
Quite frankly, I think Posey will trade him for pitching. He can certainly hit and, who knows, maybe someone else can figure out how to improve his fielding…..
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
BostonCard - 10-08-2025
Buh bye Yankees. Now if only someone could take down the Dodgers.
BC
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-09-2025
(10-08-2025, 06:35 PM)Giants Wrote: (10-08-2025, 04:14 PM)lex24 Wrote: Ramos is not gonna be the DH.
Yeah, I know. It was more a wish than anything else - I just don’t want to see him playing LF.
Quite frankly, I think Posey will trade him for pitching. He can certainly hit and, who knows, maybe someone else can figure out how to improve his fielding…..
Would any of these make sense?
Pablo Lopez, Twins like him, two years on $21 mms. contract, good ERA2.74, only had 14 starts
Pablo López Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Dylan Cease: Free agent, coming off a down year, very strong before, down ballot Cy Young votes in two years, be 30 next year.
Dylan Cease Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
Mitch Keller - two good years, one an all star, down year last year, innings eater, extended through 2028.
Mitch Keller Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More | Baseball-Reference.com
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-10-2025
Cody Bellinger is a free agent and corner outfielder. Maybe he wants to return to the West Coast. He had 29 HRs (though statcast says it would drop to 21 at Oracle...he's a lefty and a dead pull hitter), 98 RBIs, hit .272, .814 OPS. Played between 41 and 85 games at all OF positions.
Cody Bellinger Stats: Statcast, Visuals & Advanced Metrics | baseballsavant.com
His splits are below average at Oracle. Three home runs in 167 ABs, .251/.333/.389/.723.
Good fielder. Strong positive Rtot in RF (+6) and LF (+4). -1 in CF.
RE: lex24 -
Mick - 10-10-2025
(10-04-2025, 06:46 PM)lex24 Wrote: Mick dateline='[url=tel:1759592091' Wrote: 1759592091[/url]']
Six takeaways from the 2025 SF Giants season, summary if you don't want to read the attached article link:
1. Devers and Adames will be just fine at Oracle. Adames hit 30 HRs, first Giant since Bonds to do so. Devers hit 20 after joining the Giants.
2. Landon Roupp is a legit big league starter. 3.80 ERA in 106 innings. Actually should be better next year, he gave up 10 earned runs in 5 1/3rd innings in his last two starts, resulting from lingering injuries. Take away those two starts, you have a 3.11 ERA.
3. Outfield defense needs to improve. Ramos had 9 errors leading all NL left fielders and -4 Rtot. Jung Hoo Lee had just three errors (4th among NL CFs), 7 assists (third best among NL CFs) and two double plays (3rd among NL CFs), but just average range and a -20 Rtot. Matos had two errors in 30 games in RF and two MORE errors in 22 games in LF, -6 Rtot overall. Drew Gilbert was -3 Rtot. Grant McCray had two errors in just six games in RF.
4. Buster did a good job in making decisions.
5. Bryce Eldridge is better at the plate than I expected in terms of plate discipline (7 walks in 37 ABs), about what I expected for strikeouts (13), not as good as expected for BA (.107), OBP (.297), SLG (.179).
6. We need pitching. A LOT of pitching. Walker regressed, Rodriguez is out for the year. I'd prefer better than Kai-Wei Teng and Carson Seymour. Maybe it's Whisenhunt. I think Miller will step up. Hopefully Tyler Rogers comes back. At one point, we had the third best bullpen in the majors, then regressed. Verlander came on in the second half, but he'll be 43 next year.
Six Takeaways From the San Francisco Giants’ 2025 Season
You do like your short sample sizes. Eldridge hit eight or nine balls 100 miles an hour or harder. I don’t know if he’ll be on the roster to begin the season next year. But he’ll be there relatively soon. And he’s gonna strike out a ton I doubt he’s gonna hit for much of an average his first year. But the power will play. What he did this September generally means nothing. As long as he didn’t look overmatched. And he didn’t.
Eldridge's average exit velocity was 95.6 mph. Aaron Judge led all qualified batters in the majors with 95.4 mph. More to the point, Kyle Schwarber led the majors with 59.6% of his batted balls qualifying as "hard-hit (over 90 mph). Eldridge's hard-hit percentage was 68.8%.
In other words...with enough at bats, he would have led the league in both categories.
The Giants were right to progress him slowly. His strikeout rate would have also led all qualified batters, but he countered it with a high walk rate. And, as Buster Posey pointed out, he faced some very strong pitchers.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-13-2025
Only seven pitchers in MLB pitched more than 20 innings and gave up zero home runs. Three of them were on the Giants:
Matt Gage, 25 1/3rd innings, no HRs.
J. T. Brubaker, 28 2/3rds innings (12 with the Giants, rest with Yankees), no HRs
and...
Stanford alum Erik Miller, the guy who strikes out Shohei Ohtani at will. 30 innings, 0 HRs. 20 walks, unfortunately, that will need to come down.
Giants as a staff gave up the fewest HRs in MLB with 143. Webb led the league in IP (207), hits (210), strikeouts (224). Interestingly, All-Star Robbie Ray led the league in walks with 73.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Giants - 10-13-2025
(10-13-2025, 09:07 AM)Mick Wrote: Only seven pitchers in MLB pitched more than 20 innings and gave up zero home runs. Three of them were on the Giants:
Matt Gage, 25 1/3rd innings, no HRs.
J. T. Brubaker, 28 2/3rds innings (12 with the Giants, rest with Yankees), no HRs
and...
Stanford alum Erik Miller, the guy who strikes out Shohei Ohtani at will. 30 innings, 0 HRs. 20 walks, unfortunately, that will need to come down.
Giants as a staff gave up the fewest HRs in MLB with 143. Webb led the league in IP (207), hits (210), strikeouts (224). Interestingly, All-Star Robbie Ray led the league in walks with 73.
re: only giving up 143 HRs, it helps to play 81 games at Oracle.
RE: SF Giants 2025 -
Mick - 10-13-2025
(10-13-2025, 09:13 AM)Giants Wrote: (10-13-2025, 09:07 AM)Mick Wrote: Only seven pitchers in MLB pitched more than 20 innings and gave up zero home runs. Three of them were on the Giants:
Matt Gage, 25 1/3rd innings, no HRs.
J. T. Brubaker, 28 2/3rds innings (12 with the Giants, rest with Yankees), no HRs
and...
Stanford alum Erik Miller, the guy who strikes out Shohei Ohtani at will. 30 innings, 0 HRs. 20 walks, unfortunately, that will need to come down.
Giants as a staff gave up the fewest HRs in MLB with 143. Webb led the league in IP (207), hits (210), strikeouts (224). Interestingly, All-Star Robbie Ray led the league in walks with 73.
re: only giving up 143 HRs, it helps to play 81 games at Oracle.
Baseball Savant says Oracle is tied with Mariners Park as the most difficult overall park in which to hit over the last three years, but just #17 this year. #22 in HRs
Statcast Park Factors | baseballsavant.com