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Re: Okereke - Redrum - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 10:26 AM)Boston Card link Wrote:ILB is interesting. Could we see Barton and Okereke starting by the end of the year?
https://twitter.com/stanfordrivals/status/763540544131780608
BC
It's about time. The expectations for him were as high as they were for Kalambayi. Kalambayi blew up. Okereke, didn't. Seemed resistant to Turley's program at first. (Not behaviorally, just in physical results). Also didn't seem the instinctive, fast-twitch LB of his HS videos. Hope that's finally changed.
Re: Training camp thread - OutsiderFan - 08-11-2016
Kalambayi, Okereke, Barton, and Alfieri are the best athletes at LB excluding True Frosh Curtis Robinson. All were 4-star recruits, so it shouldn't be surprising if those guys end up being the starters or otherwise playing as much or more than anyone else at those positions. All told, Stanford has five 4-star recruits (Noor Davis the other) at LB and one 5-star.
Re: Okereke - CTcard - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 01:54 PM)Redrum link Wrote:It's about time. The expectations for him were as high as they were for Kalambayi. Kalambayi blew up. Okereke, didn't. Seemed resistant to Turley's program at first. (Not behaviorally, just in physical results). Also didn't seem the instinctive, fast-twitch LB of his HS videos. Hope that's finally changed.
That seems a little impatient for a guy who is now a football-sophomore. [He is a class behind Kalambayi]
It's true he didn't have a first year like Alfieri, who was a similarly ranked LB in the same class. But my impression was always that Okereke was more of a project. The stories were that he only started playing football his HS Junior year - and at Stanford moved to the inside.
Re: Training camp thread - donkey687 - 08-11-2016
I am not counting out Noor Davis. If healthy, his experience may win out. He has the tools and things may be clicking now that he is in his fifth year.
Re: Training camp thread - winflop - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 10:21 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:Well, I think the SID dropped the ball on the design aesthetics of the new webpage redesign. So much wasted space!
Given that all of the Pac-12 athletics websites look similar, I don't think it was a Stanford decision. But I agree the new format absolutely sucks
Re: Okereke - Treebound - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 02:42 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Redrum link=topic=15402.msg167519#msg167519 date=1470948843]
It's about time. The expectations for him were as high as they were for Kalambayi. Kalambayi blew up. Okereke, didn't. Seemed resistant to Turley's program at first. (Not behaviorally, just in physical results). Also didn't seem the instinctive, fast-twitch LB of his HS videos. Hope that's finally changed.
That seems a little impatient for a guy who is now a football-sophomore. [He is a class behind Kalambayi]
It's true he didn't have a first year like Alfieri, who was a similarly ranked LB in the same class. But my impression was always that Okereke was more of a project. The stories were that he only started playing football his HS Junior year - and at Stanford moved to the inside.
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Totally agree, CT.
It takes some time to adjust to the speed at the college level. Okereke has natural talent, but it's likely that his football instincts have needed to catch up given he is relatively new to the game. Reading and reacting extremely fast, if not instinctually, is what I hope we see from him. Sure, we all want a Dave Wyman like LB from day one! You have to love the depth!
Re: Training camp thread - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 03:39 PM)winflop link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=15402.msg167503#msg167503 date=1470936101]
Well, I think the SID dropped the ball on the design aesthetics of the new webpage redesign. So much wasted space!
Given that all of the Pac-12 athletics websites look similar, I don't think it was a Stanford decision. But I agree the new format absolutely sucks
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And none of them seem to like my ad blocker. Neither does Forbes, for that matter.
Re: Okereke - Red State - 08-11-2016
(08-11-2016, 02:42 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Redrum link=topic=15402.msg167519#msg167519 date=1470948843]
It's about time. The expectations for him were as high as they were for Kalambayi. Kalambayi blew up. Okereke, didn't. Seemed resistant to Turley's program at first. (Not behaviorally, just in physical results). Also didn't seem the instinctive, fast-twitch LB of his HS videos. Hope that's finally changed.
That seems a little impatient for a guy who is now a football-sophomore. [He is a class behind Kalambayi]
It's true he didn't have a first year like Alfieri, who was a similarly ranked LB in the same class. But my impression was always that Okereke was more of a project. The stories were that he only started playing football his HS Junior year - and at Stanford moved to the inside.
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Okereke was also a little young for his class, he was only 17 when starting classes at Stanford.
Re: Training camp thread - washingtonismoney - 08-11-2016
Best news from this Shaw post-practice interview: https://soundcloud.com/gostanford/shaw-1
"Harrison is looking like his young self, quick and explosive."
Re: Training camp thread - washingtonismoney - 08-11-2016
What the gamblers think of the QB race*:
Keller Chryst (-425)
Ryan Burns (+300)
https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/2016-college-football-quarterback-battle-odds/
Why do they think this? No idea! It's just kind of fun, I suppose.
Re: Training camp thread - amartinsu13 - 08-11-2016
Justin Reid proud to be a Cardinal.
https://twitter.com/jreid_viii/status/763976916034392066
https://twitter.com/jreid_viii/status/763976535673974784
Well, allrighty then! - Redrum - 08-12-2016
Let's meet up for my ritual flogging when Okereke wins the Butkus award.
Re: Well, allrighty then! - fullmetal - 08-12-2016
(08-12-2016, 01:25 PM)Redrum link Wrote:Let's meet up for my ritual flogging when Okereke wins the Butkus award.
Next year, at dinner before the natl championship game?
Re: Training camp thread - murky - 08-12-2016
(08-11-2016, 08:52 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:What the gamblers think of the QB race*:
Keller Chryst (-425)
Ryan Burns (+300)
https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/2016-college-football-quarterback-battle-odds/
Why do they think this? No idea! It's just kind of fun, I suppose.
Is that really something you can place a bet on? The whim of a coach?
Re: Training camp thread - fullmetal - 08-12-2016
(08-12-2016, 04:33 PM)murky link Wrote:[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=15402.msg167552#msg167552 date=1470973927]
What the gamblers think of the QB race*:
Keller Chryst (-425)
Ryan Burns (+300)
https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/2016-college-football-quarterback-battle-odds/
Why do they think this? No idea! It's just kind of fun, I suppose.
Is that really something you can place a bet on? The whim of a coach?
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Only if you believe the two football players under consideration are identical. I think it's a bet on players given differences in public performance, background, team need, perceived capabilities...
Re: Training camp thread - CornFed - 08-12-2016
I think it's just a bet. Any bet. Like people bet on the coin flip. It is probably based on nothing more than whim, or intuition. Does anyone here feel that they could assess where this QB competition stands before the season begins? I would think that for this to be anything other than even odds is nothing more than a hunch
Re: Training camp thread - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 08-13-2016
Vegas doesn't care who becomes the starter, they care who the public believes will become the starter -- and that is Chryst, apparently.
Re: Training camp thread - JohnR34231 - 08-13-2016
(08-13-2016, 01:33 AM)ThePOC link Wrote:Vegas doesn't care who becomes the starter, they care who the public believes will become the starter -- and that is Chryst, apparently.
If you take Shaw at his word when he says he hasn't made up his mind yet and it will be whoever plays significantly better in training camp (and if nobody does they will both play) you wonder who he would bet on.
Re: Training camp thread - OutsiderFan - 08-13-2016
More on inside linebackers...
https://stanford.rivals.com/news/camp-early-look-inside-linebacker
Noor Davis not mentioned, but I'm not reading too much into that. Hansen seems open to rotating 6-7 guys, though he admits that once into the season the rotation will probably shrink a bit.
If I were to guess, based on all my observations, the pecking order might be something like:
1. Palma
2. Barton
3. Davis
4. Okereke
5. Perez
6. Jones
7. Branch
It seems it might make sense to rotate guys in pairs. Like, Palma/Barton play together, Davis/Okereke play together, Perez/Branch play together, and then Jones fills in where needed.
Re: Training camp thread - pcgoode - 08-13-2016
If I am not mistaken,!there was an open practice today. Can anyone provide observations?