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RE: Mills - CardinalSagehen - 10-23-2019

Here’s a good update about Costello - trending up.  

Not so good, but no surprise, about Mills.  

[twitter] https://twitter.com/rj_abeytia/status/1187198970461769729?s=21[/twitter]


lex24 - lex24 - 10-23-2019

Mills, I’m afraid, is never going to be healthy enough to get through a season. Too bad. He’s very talented.


RE: Mills - Hank 91 - 10-23-2019

(10-22-2019, 10:39 AM)Row80Critic Wrote:  Do they stream those press conferences anywhere?

The postgame press conferences and Tuesday afternoon press conferences are always streamed live through the Stanford Football YouTube account. If you don't catch them live, you can watch the archived version. Here's this week's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kviKwuTB3QI


RE: lex24 - JohnR34231 - 10-24-2019

(10-23-2019, 09:37 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Mills, I’m afraid, is never going to be healthy enough to get through a season. Too bad. He’s very talented.

I wonder if it would be possible to put together a scheme that recognizes his propensity to get injured. Something like a dual QB system, or use him as a spot player, or something like that.


RE: Mills - BobK - 10-24-2019

Hard to do that when mills can’t play at all. A shame


RE: Mills - OutsiderFan - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 07:01 AM)BobK Wrote:  Hard to do that when mills can’t play at all.  A shame

This is more cryptic than usual, Bob.  Is your message meant to insinuate someone has concluded Mills simply can't play anymore period? If it is more like he is done this year, what, exactly is the issue?  I mean wasn't he suppose to be rehabbing for the last year?

I've never in my life heard of a QB who had his career ruined because of what has always seemed to be non-catastrophic knee injuries. Does anyone truly know anything about the Mills knee injury(ies), in terms of what the issues might be? We know ligaments heal, and people return from them routinely, so that leaves me to believe Mills is dealing with cartilage damage, loss of blood flow to knee, or something degenerative.

When Shaw has been asked about Mills in the past, he's always said he expects him to get healthy and have a great career as a QB.  Can this possibly be the case still?


RE: Mills - JohnR34231 - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 07:01 AM)BobK Wrote:  Hard to do that when mills can’t play at all.  A shame

I was assuming he would eventually get healthy, and then the scheme would be implemented.
Based on what I've heard about his latest injury, it doesn't seem it would be career ending.


RE: Mills - BobK - 10-24-2019

Can’t play this week. Couldn’t play last week. Geesh outsider you are so jumping to conclusions. However this is year 4 HS and college Mills hasn’t been healthy.

MAny many people have torn ACLs without being touched. I have seen it in person many times plus moi


RE: Mills - Phogge - 10-24-2019

Bobbbbbb, the latest is a calf contusion. As long as you are not filling the scholie quota perhaps it's time to sign two QB's every now and then. Let them transfer if they can't handle competition. And let the parents know up front that this isn't select ball it's FOOTBALL.


RE: Mills - qwerty49 - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 09:59 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Bobbbbbb, the latest is a calf contusion. As long as you are not filling the scholie quota perhaps it's time to sign two QB's every now and then. Let them transfer if they can't handle competition. And let the parents know up front that this isn't select ball it's FOOTBALL.

The QB transfer game is a fact of life now.  As in Highlander, "there can be only one."

I remember Babe Laufenberg was one of the two QBs who transferred out in late August after watching Elway's first practice.  Can't remember the other one but he was pretty good too.

And I seem to remember Jesse Freitas was with us for a couple of weeks before he saw that Plunkett and Bunce were ahead of him.  He had a pretty good career at SDSU.


RE: Mills - Embo - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 11:49 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:  I remember Babe Laufenberg was one of the two QBs who transferred out in late August after watching Elway's first practice.  Can't remember the other one but he was pretty good too.

Amazing that this noggin still has his name registered in my memory bank.  And I even know why I remember it - I was a senior, legitimately 21 years of age, and I was in the liquor store that was on the east side of El Camino, close to where the Bike Connection is now.  There was a football player, wearing the red Adidas team tracksuit that had his name embroidered on the left chest:  Grayson Rogers.


RE: Mills - Spiny_Norman - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 11:49 AM)qwerty49 Wrote:  I remember Babe Laufenberg was one of the two QBs who transferred out in late August after watching Elway's first practice.  Can't remember the other one but he was pretty good too.

Grayson Rogers. Ended up at Pacific, I believe.


lex24 - lex24 - 10-24-2019

ACL injuries are often non-contact. Mine was. Playing hoops at Harmon.  Tried to block a shot. Felt something go. ( Serves me right for trying to play defense in a pick up game) This was ‘80. So arthroscopic stuff not as prevelant. Had full surgery. Meniscus tear is all they found.  Just to let you know how different things were then, I was in the hospital several nights and then they put me in a cast for a couple of months. I was 6’2 about a 140 at the time. When they took off the cast I barely had any leg left……. 12 years later I was shooting hoops in the gym, jogged after the and the whole thing went. Got an MRI ( they didn’t have those in 1980 - or if they did it wasn’t offered). I had torn the other Cartlidge in the knee and   tore the ACL. I remember getting a second opinion.  The doctor moved my knee around and said well I’ll look at the films but I don’t need to, you have about the loosest knee I’ve seen. He told me I probably tore it in 1980 but they just didn’t see it. 




(10-24-2019, 08:14 AM)BobK Wrote:  Can’t play this week.  Couldn’t play last week.  Geesh outsider you are so jumping to conclusions.  However this is year 4 HS and college Mills hasn’t been healthy.

MAny many people have torn ACLs without being touched.  I have seen it in person many times plus moi



RE: Mills - Phogge - 10-24-2019

Freitas backed up Plunkett in 1970 and even got a few snaps in the Rose Bowl. Bunce redshirted that year and won the job in the Spring. Then did Jesse transfer. Sat out that year in San Diego and played two more. Ironically he ended up with the Chargers alongside SI’s Dan Fouts who won that job.


RE: Mills - qwerty49 - 10-24-2019

(10-24-2019, 09:45 PM)Phogge Wrote:  Freitas backed up Plunkett in 1970 and even got a few snaps in the Rose Bowl. Bunce redshirted that year and won the job in the Spring. Then did Jesse transfer. Sat out that year in San Diego and played two more. Ironically he ended up with the Chargers alongside SI’s Dan Fouts who won that job.

Thanks Phogge.  Were we ever in the running for Freitas' HS buddy Lynn Swann?  I remember there was a lot of talk that Swann might come at the time.


RE: Mills - JJJ - 10-25-2019

Quote:Stanford  lost three straight games, won two in a row (including an upset of Washington), and then lost last Thursday to UCLA for the first time in 12 meetings.

Arizona opened the season with a shocking loss at Hawaii, won four straight, and then gave up 91 points to Washington and USC in its last two games.

Quote:These will be the biggest factors:
WHO’S THE QB
Stanford’s offense was sluggish under quarterbacks K.J. Costello and Davis Mills. It was catatonic under third-stringer Jack West, who was forced into action against UCLA and managed just three points until garbage time.
Mills is definitely out Saturday, but Costello’s thumb has healed enough that he was able to split time with West in practice this week. The redshirt junior’s availability – Shaw said Wednesday that Costello was between questionable and probable – may be the biggest key to the outcome.
Costello is 53 of 94 for 471 yards and two TDs in two-plus games this season – far from last year’s output, when he finished with the second-most passing yards in school history, but enough to keep the Cardinal in the game.

West looked overwhelmed against the Bruins, going 15 of 32 for 143 yards and being sacked seven times. If Costello can’t go, Stanford is hoping its redshirt freshman gained a lot from his first experience.
CONTROLLING TATE
Arizona also faces uncertainty at quarterback. Senior Khalil Tate was benched early in third quarter last week against USC after being sacked six times and throwing for just 47 yards.
Still, Tate remains the starter as Arizona heads to The Farm. He threw for 404 yards against Colorado three weeks ago and ran for 129 yards against Texas Tech four weeks ago.
Stanford faced a similar dual-threat quarterback last week against UCLA, and Dorian Thompson-Robinson threw for 192 yards and ran for 66 yards, accounting for three touchdowns, in the 34-16 win.
“I’m happy that we faced an athletic QB that could run last week,” Stanford senior linebacker Casey Toohill said. “That was the fastest QB we faced all season, and now we’ll probably face a faster one. That was really helpful to get that taste in our mouth, understand where our breakdowns happened so we can do better this week.”


https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/10/25/stanford-football-whos-at-qb/


RE: Mills - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 10-26-2019

(10-22-2019, 07:29 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:  Why not give Richardson a start if it comes to that?  He looked pretty darn good to me in spring ball and he most certainly earned his Rudy moment.  Hopefully West will continue to develop and have a successful go at it, but until he sorts things out, is there any downside in trying Richardson really?

I agree,  Richardson has has put in his dues and earned the opportunity to start a game for Stanford.