The 53 man roster and the practice squad -
Mick - 05-15-2014
Just to round out the compensation discussion...every NFL team has a practice squad and can have up to eight players on that squad. Those players practice with the team, but do not play in games. They are paid by the week and can be released at any point. If a practice squad player makes the 53 man roster, he gets a minimum of three NFL minimum weekly paychecks.
The practice squads are deemed to be developmental, meaning that any player with a minimum of six games during a full year of NFL experience (combined) is ineligible to make a practice squad. A player can be on the developmental squad for two seasons, or three if his team does not go below the maximum 53 players on the team.
Practice squad players are allowed to sign with any NFL team, providing they make that team's 53 man roster. He can't be signed to another team's practice squad unless his original team grants him his outright release. Also, a practice squad player cannot sign with the upcoming opponent, unless they do so a minimum of six days before the game (or 10 days if the team has a bye week).
Players make a minimum of $6,000 per week every week they are on the developmental squad, up to $102,000 if they are on the developmental team for the full year. Teams are allowed to pay them more than the minimum (Tampa Bay offered Dezmon Briscoe the full NFL minimum salary) but they count against the salary cap.Â
Re: Skov -
jacketree - 05-15-2014
I don't quite get it (nothing new). Skov is only guaranteed $10,000 ($7,500 signing bonus + $2,500 salary) even if he's with the team all through training camp and is the last man cut? That isn't even minimum wage if he works for a few months. What am I missing? What good is a three year contract if so little is guaranteed? (What does "guarantee" mean in this context anyway?)
If he doesn't make the team and only gets $10,000 for his trouble, he would have been better off as a barista somewhere. (Other than the whole fulfillment of a dream thing - that is worth a risk.)Â He must be getting paid real money even if he is released, isn't he?
Re: Skov -
2 for 2028 - 05-15-2014
(05-15-2014, 05:16 PM)jacketree link Wrote:I don't quite get it (nothing new). Skov is only guaranteed $10,000 ($7,500 signing bonus + $2,500 salary) even if he's with the team all through training camp and is the last man cut? That isn't even minimum wage if he works for a few months. What am I missing? What good is a three year contract if so little is guaranteed? (What does "guarantee" mean in this context anyway?)
If he doesn't make the team and only gets $10,000 for his trouble, he would have been better off as a barista somewhere. (Other than the whole fulfillment of a dream thing - that is worth a risk.)Â He must be getting paid real money even if he is released, isn't he?
Sounds a lot like grad school.
Re: Skov -
SUBuddha - 05-15-2014
(05-15-2014, 05:22 PM)2 for 2028 link Wrote:[quote author=jacketree link=topic=9968.msg89565#msg89565 date=1400199412]
I don't quite get it (nothing new). Skov is only guaranteed $10,000 ($7,500 signing bonus + $2,500 salary) even if he's with the team all through training camp and is the last man cut? That isn't even minimum wage if he works for a few months. What am I missing? What good is a three year contract if so little is guaranteed? (What does "guarantee" mean in this context anyway?)
If he doesn't make the team and only gets $10,000 for his trouble, he would have been better off as a barista somewhere. (Other than the whole fulfillment of a dream thing - that is worth a risk.)Â He must be getting paid real money even if he is released, isn't he?
Sounds a lot like grad school.
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In my field, even with the tuition reduction it was $1800 (roughly) per semester for tuition and I was guaranteed $6400 per term for work as an RA/TA for the first 2 years. Sad to think I may have been better off (with student loans) than a UDFA.
Re: Skov -
pefloresjr - 05-16-2014
SFGate article on Skov:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/05/15/49ers-undrafted-lb-skov-yeah-it-puts-a-chip-on-your-shoulder/?cmpid=hp-hc-sports
Cheers,
Pete F.
Re: Skov -
yvonne - 05-16-2014
The full interview:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/show/91361/episode/866621
Re: Skov -
AtlantaBadger - 05-16-2014
(05-15-2014, 05:16 PM)jacketree link Wrote:I don't quite get it (nothing new). Skov is only guaranteed $10,000 ($7,500 signing bonus + $2,500 salary) even if he's with the team all through training camp and is the last man cut? That isn't even minimum wage if he works for a few months. What am I missing? What good is a three year contract if so little is guaranteed? (What does "guarantee" mean in this context anyway?)
If he doesn't make the team and only gets $10,000 for his trouble, he would have been better off as a barista somewhere. (Other than the whole fulfillment of a dream thing - that is worth a risk.)Â He must be getting paid real money even if he is released, isn't he?
Well, that is the fairly brutal reality of the NFL, and a brobdingnagian point of differentiation from other pro sports. In the NFL, you can be cut pretty much any time, regardless of the length of your contract, and except for the portion that is "guaranteed" either under the CBA rookie contract pay scale or that you and your agent were able to negotiate in later contracts, the team owes you nothing. Not like baseball, for instance, in which my Atlanta Braves have been **cking saddled with Dan Uggla's exorbitant contract for two years and have two more to go, even though he can't hit his way out of a paper bag. They can release Uggla, but have to pay him.Â
That is why the guaranteed amount is key in NFL contracts. I can't remember the numbers exactly, but using Richard Sherman as an example, he just signed a brobdingnagian contract worth [theoretically], $57.4 million over the life of the contract, with
$40 millon guaranteed, which is a brobdingnagian number. So Seattle is not going to be cutting or releasing him any time soon, because they have obligated themselves to pay Sherman $40 million no matter what (barring some contractual "out" such as felony conviction or something).
I haven't exactly done the math, but by and large you are right that Skov and other UDFAs will make less than squat if they don't make a team. But that is just the way it is in the League.
Re: Skov -
oman - 05-17-2014
I think Skov could be an awesome luchador back in the old country if this doesn't work out....
Re: Skov -
yvonne - 05-20-2014
Well, Shayne's got a better chance of catching on with the 49ers than this guy does.
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/05/19/rice-jr-will-try-out-at-49ers-rookie-minicamp/