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RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - BobK - 11-27-2018

While I continue to think it’s Stanford I think Oregon is also very possible
Ionescu has talked about this being her last season. While she’s a Jr she will be 23 this season thus eligible for the WNBA and always eligible for overseas. So Graves could sell her on being Ionescu’s replacement game 1

Admitted and still no?
We all know why Diggins and Katie Lou said no and maybe a third in the last 10 years. However it’s rare. I hope lol


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - 2006alum - 11-27-2018

I share your view, Bob. It feels like she's staying on the West Coast. I suppose Pivec is really the only admitted and turned us down where we never really got an explanation. KLS always made sense to me in terms of wanting to do her own thing, and Diggins was in the Domers back yard. No question this one would be a tough loss given the geographic edge, but will respect the choice regardless.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - terry - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 05:49 AM)81alum Wrote:  Now, what I'd really like to know, is whether Tara and maybe the team get an invite to come to the announcement :)

College coaches are not allowed to attend athletes' commitment or LOI events. The relevant bylaw:

13.1.5.9 Letter-of-Intent Signing. Any in-person, off -campus contact made with a prospective student- athlete for the purpose of signing a letter of intent or other commitment to attend the institution or attendance at activities related to the signing of a letter of intent or other commitment to attend the institution shall be prohibited.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - warren65 - 11-27-2018

So, in these times of nervous anticipation, passionate fans read tea leaves, or seek insight from the smallest bits of information.  I know I do.

Whether a recruit does or does not choose to have signing ceremony,  or how elaborate that ceremony might be, or whether TV is invited, those are all things that will vary from recruit to recruit.  To read into those choices something about the final choice of school is to brew a pretty weak tea.

24 hours from now, we will know.  If the decision is adverse, we swallow hard, wish Haley well, and move on.  

It occurs to me that the worst possible outcome would be to postpone the decision until Spring signing, or some future time.  Uncertainty is the worst.

For me, I'm still thinking Stanford.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - M T - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 11:07 AM)terry Wrote:  
(11-27-2018, 05:49 AM)81alum Wrote:  Now, what I'd really like to know, is whether Tara and maybe the team get an invite to come to the announcement :)

College coaches are not allowed to attend athletes' commitment or LOI events. The relevant bylaw:

13.1.5.9 Letter-of-Intent Signing. Any in-person, off -campus contact made with a prospective student- athlete for the purpose of signing a letter of intent or other commitment to attend the institution or attendance at activities related to the signing of a letter of intent or other commitment to attend the institution shall be prohibited.


Didn't someone say that the LOI has already been signed  (with whatever school)?  Wednesday is the public announcement.  Possibly Jones's future school has gotten a ruling from the NCAA that this rule does not prohibit anything after the LOI is submitted.  (I wouldn't read it that way, but I could imagine it could be read that way.)


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - BobK - 11-27-2018

The LOI was signed and notarized last week. I’m sure she coach and family know what they are doing LOI wise


RE: WBB - Jones decision Mondaye - ca245 - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 01:18 PM)BobK Wrote:  The LOI was signed and notarized last week. I’m sure she coach and family know what they are doing LOI wise
If she did not have her mind made up last week, could she sign and have notarized multiple LOIs? Then after taking her time to decide, she can send in the LOI for the school of her choice. If legal, is an interestingly maneuver to buy more time to decide.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - jonnyss - 11-27-2018

i don't quite get signing a letter of intent but not sending it to the school - especially  if not sending it to the school includes not notifying the school.  isn't it a contract that requires signing by both sides? the college agrees to pay for at least a year. the recruit agrees to play nowhere else for a year.

does notarizing your signature somehow make it a binding contract if the school hasn't signed or even been notified? 

how does it matter? in this case there are 5 schools holding a slot for a recruit. 4 of those schools can't use their slot on a back-up if haley has not notified them.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - 2006alum - 11-27-2018

From my understanding of the rules, the chosen school likely had to know she signed with them when she signed it:

Quote:You should sign your NLI in duplicate. Once you have signed it twice, retain one copy of the signed NLI for your records. You should send the other copy back to the institution. When the institution receives it, they are responsible for forwarding a copy to their conference office. The institution must file your NLI with its conference within 14 days after the date of final signature. If this filing deadline is not met, the letter will be declared invalid.

Since the final day of the early signing period was Nov. 14, the latest the conference could file it is tomorrow. Maybe she's assuming all five schools are ready to go right away, but my guess is that the school already has it and is waiting to submit it to the conference until tomorrow, which it has to do, at which point it would presumably become public anyway. That probably explains why she settled on tomorrow - any later and the cat's already out of the bag.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - PalmTree - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 04:19 PM)jonnyss Wrote:  i don't quite get signing a letter of intent but not sending it to the school - especially  if not sending it to the school includes not notifying the school.  isn't it a contract that requires signing by both sides? the college agrees to pay for at least a year. the recruit agrees to play nowhere else for a year.

does notarizing your signature somehow make it a binding contract if the school hasn't signed or even been notified? 

how does it matter? in this case there are 5 schools holding a slot for a recruit. 4 of those schools can't use their slot on a back-up if haley has not notified them.

The university does complete part of the LoI document before the student-athlete signs, and its section has to filled out completely and correctly or the LoI is invalid, even if the student-athlete signs.   

In regards to an earlier question about signing LoIs for multiple schools, from my reading of the rules, that's not possible as all would be considered invalid and the student-athlete would be penalized with loss of eligibility for a year.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - BobK - 11-27-2018

All guesses but no She will announce to the public tomorrow and attend that school


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - BostonCard - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 05:07 PM)BobK Wrote:  All guesses but no     She will announce to the public tomorrow and attend that school

Can someone translate that from Bob to English?

BC


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - Jskass - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 05:43 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(11-27-2018, 05:07 PM)BobK Wrote:  All guesses but no     She will announce to the public tomorrow and attend that school

Can someone translate that from Bob to English?

BC

We need to take a deep breath and wait?


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - qwerty49 - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 05:43 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(11-27-2018, 05:07 PM)BobK Wrote:  All guesses but no     She will announce to the public tomorrow and attend that school

Can someone translate that from Bob to English?

BC

Don’t overthink it. Wait and see.


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - BostonCard - 11-27-2018

Thanks guys!  That makes sense.

Bob, remember that punctuation marks are your friend.

BC


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - triangle2 - 11-27-2018

Perhaps a sign that Jones is not heading to South Carolina: Dawn Staley tweeted a welcome this evening to Boston, Cooke, Amihere, and Beal. (That's quite a recruiting class.) 

ESPN shows a 5th signee, PG Olivia Thompson. I don't know anything about her. 

https://twitter.com/dawnstaley/status/1067597599249707009


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - bl82 - 11-27-2018

With no inside information other than having read the same tea leaves everyone else here has, I see the probabilities as roughly:
40% Stanford
25% Oregon
20% Norte Dame
10% UConn
5% South Carolina


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - triangle2 - 11-27-2018

(11-27-2018, 10:15 PM)bl82 Wrote:  With no inside information other than having read the same tea leaves everyone else here has, I see the probabilities as roughly:
40% Stanford
25% Oregon
20% Norte Dame
10% UConn
5% South Carolina


McGraw has been quoted as saying: "No, we're done. I think we're done." FWIW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.ndinsider.com/basketball/womens/notre-dame-women-s-hoops-signs-elite-prospects-brunelle-and/article_34b2140c-469c-5aa8-917f-9a61164f0d6b.html


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - Jskass - 11-28-2018

Hope OR or CT don’t get their 20 percent!


RE: WBB - Jones decision Monday - Griffins78 - 11-28-2018

For what it's worth, Oregon has not announced its class yet but Kelly Graves has tweeted three players as they signed - one from Australia, one from England, and one from the U.S. that brings to a roster total of 11 next year.

They are ranked 3rd in country this year and will lose Cazorla, their PG, next year. Will be a major force next year.