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RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - BostonCard - 05-24-2021

(05-24-2021, 09:53 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(05-24-2021, 08:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I think if you are Arizona, you like how the match-up turned up.

BC

I think you're nuts. Nobody wants us as an opponent.

I expect us to play it straight. Would potentially mess with players' minds to change the lineup at this point. Besides, it's a little bit of a "come at me bro" statement

Oh, I completely agree with you that nobody would want to play us.  I am sure Arizona would have much preferred to land the 7 see.

However, if you are looking at the individual match-ups, you are probably happy that Heck and Ye will beat up on your 4 and 5 players, and that your 1, 2, and 3 are going up against our 3, 4, and 5.

BC
[tweet]https://twitter.com/GoStanford/status/1397034676745764867?s=20[/tweet]

Heck, yeah!

BC

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Spiny_Norman - 05-24-2021

(05-24-2021, 10:36 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(05-24-2021, 09:53 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(05-24-2021, 08:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I think if you are Arizona, you like how the match-up turned up.



BC



I think you're nuts. Nobody wants us as an opponent.



I expect us to play it straight. Would potentially mess with players' minds to change the lineup at this point. Besides, it's a little bit of a "come at me bro" statement



Oh, I completely agree with you that nobody would want to play us.  I am sure Arizona would have much preferred to land the 7 see.



However, if you are looking at the individual match-ups, you are probably happy that Heck and Ye will beat up on your 4 and 5 players, and that your 1, 2, and 3 are going up against our 3, 4, and 5.


BC

Your best match play golfers may not be your #1 or #2 players. The all time winningest NCAA match play golfers in terms of most victories are Casey Danielson (7-1 record) and Shannon Aubert (7-3). I don't think either played higher than #3 on the Stanford team. When you put them up against an opponent head-to-head, they were tough as nails. Of course sometimes your best player is a great match play competitor. See Mariah Stackhouse.

We'll have to see how everyone does in this environment. It's certainly a lot of pressure. But as Tiger Woods said, it's a privilege to be nervous. If you’re not nervous you’re sitting at home watching TV. And yes, all of these golfers have prior experience at match play at the junior or amateur level. But it's also different playing for a team.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - oldalum - 05-25-2021

we're down early: Englemann and Krauter by 2, Ye by 1. Heck tied and Seay up one.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Treefence - 05-25-2021

Very early on, but right now Arizona is up 2 in three matchups, and tied in the other two matchups.  Nothing out of reach, but also not the best of starts...

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Treefence - 05-25-2021

Fortune has improved a bit, we are up 2 in one, down 2 in one, down 1 in one, and tied in two.  

http://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=22826

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - oldalum - 05-25-2021

halfway thru and we've pulled completely even: 2-2-1
Ye is hanging tough with Starkute, all even after 11 holes. That might be the deciding match.
Heck now 2 up

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - bl82 - 05-25-2021

We've nudged ahead, but this is still a coin toss:
Heck +2 thru 10
Seay +1 thru 10
Ye AS thru 12
Englemann AS thru 11
Krauter -2 thru 10

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - bl82 - 05-25-2021

It's all down do Ye, who pulled even with a clutch birdie in 17:

Seay W 4&3
Heck +2 thru 14

Ye AS thru 17 (KEY MATCH)

Englemann -2 thru 16
Krauter -4 thru 14

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - BobK - 05-25-2021

Ye bad putt for the win most sink this
Ye three putts to play another hole
Heck wins its 2-2

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - GK3 - 05-25-2021

(05-25-2021, 11:15 AM)BobK Wrote:  Ye bad putt for the win most sink this
Ye three putts to play another hole
Heck wins its 2-2

What hole to they play as 19?

Never mind, it is all over. A tough way to end the week.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Treefence - 05-25-2021

Starkute nails a birdie putt and we lose, damn...

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - BobK - 05-25-2021

It’s wait until next year. Great great putt by Ye but Arizona sinks a long birdie for the win

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Phogge - 05-25-2021

Yeah but woeful birdie putt on 18. Just needed to sneak it up there. Lag putts so important in match play.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - winflop - 05-25-2021

What an incredible disappointment. The matchups ended up in Arizona's favor, and Ye wasn't up to the challenge on 18 and 19.

I really don't understand why Coach Walker re-ordered the lineup. As a result, our two weakest players end up playing their two best players and both lose. 

Ye's approach to 18 wasn't very good given her lie & distance and she three-putted, blowing her first putt 10 feet past the hole. On 19 her approach shot was woefully short giving her almost no chance of making birdie.

Will be interesting to see whether Heck and Ye decide to stay or turn pro. I'd guess Ye goes pro and Heck stays for one more year before going pro, but I could also see Heck making the jump.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - bbm233 - 05-25-2021

Is Ye ready for the pressure of playing for a paycheck? I think she has all the tools, but needs to use them in the clutch. The 54th hole at regionals, when she could have been medalist with a birdie, tied with a par, but bogeyed. The 18th today, when she is 70 yards from the pin and knows she will probably have 3 shots to win the hole. Mediocre pitch, terrible lag (knowing with certainty that two putts wins it). 19th hole today when she short arms an approach shot. Come back and work on the mental side and see if you can match your current teammate and the super frosh who is arriving in the fall.

This team is going to be awesome next year, in stroke play. How do you prep best for match play?

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - CTcard - 05-25-2021

I guess this reminds me of the ... 2014(?) mens team.
Won stroke play portion by 9 shots or so, then lost early in match play.

Match play has always seemed more random to me than stroke play, but maybe just different.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Canalejas - 05-25-2021

Too bad the run ends at the quarters. Good luck to Arizona now. With 7 NCAA titles for the Pac-12 this year and 9 championships left to be decided I'm not sure the conference will hit double digits this year.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - bbm233 - 05-25-2021

(05-25-2021, 01:33 PM)CTcard Wrote:  I guess this reminds me of the ... 2014(?) mens team.
Won stroke play portion by 9 shots or so, then lost early in match play.

Match play has always seemed more random to me than stroke play, but maybe just different.

It is strange how they switch from stroke to match. Sort of like playing the hoops tournament the current way until the Final Four, and then switching to 5 games of 1 on 1 to determine who advances. I guess they are trying to be consistent with the USGA amateur championships, where they use stroke play to get down to a manageable number before match play, but those are individual events, not teams. In other team events, such as the Ryder Cup, there is no stroke play.

Having said that, we know the rules, and we came up short.

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Spiny_Norman - 05-25-2021

(05-25-2021, 02:03 PM)bbm233 Wrote:  
(05-25-2021, 01:33 PM)CTcard Wrote:  I guess this reminds me of the ... 2014(?) mens team.
Won stroke play portion by 9 shots or so, then lost early in match play.

Match play has always seemed more random to me than stroke play, but maybe just different.

It is strange how they switch from stroke to match. Sort of like playing the hoops tournament the current way until the Final Four, and then switching to 5 games of 1 on 1 to determine who advances. I guess they are trying to be consistent with the USGA amateur championships, where they use stroke play to get down to a manageable number before match play, but those are individual events, not teams. In other team events, such as the Ryder Cup, there is no stroke play.

Having said that, we know the rules, and we came up short.

The change was mainly for tv. The format has been a brobdingnagian success in that respect. You used to have to watch the NCAA tournament streaming over the internet. There was often not much drama on the final day when 4 rounds of stroke play determined the winner. Now there is high drama every year. The Golf Channel broadcasts both the men's AND women's tournaments (the women's tournament used to be an afterthought).

Sometimes the format favors Stanford (e.g., Stanford men in 2019).  Sometimes it does not. I hope that this will be a Jordan Williamson moment for Angelina Ye and she comes back to be the hero next year.
Congratulations to Rachel Heck who just won the Annika Award as the top women's collegiate golfer this year!! The first ever from Stanford to be so recognized.

http://www.annikaaward.com/

RE: WGolf - NCAA Championship - Canalejas - 05-26-2021

The final will be between Oklahoma State and Mississippi.

A win by Mississippi would be the first ever NCAA team title for them in any sport.  

A win by Oklahoma State would be the their first ever NCAA team title in any women's sport.  Which is notable because at 52 NCAA championships, Oklahoma State has more than any school not named Stanford, UCLA, or USC.