RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
HalloHaleakala - 07-24-2023
(07-19-2023, 11:50 AM)ADPinWDC Wrote: (07-19-2023, 10:46 AM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: (07-19-2023, 10:17 AM)2006alum Wrote: Hallelujah. I'm really hopeful with him and Drell both out the door, our once proud university can turn the corner on a few years of extremely poor leadership.
Hmm. Who might be next??
Rather than who might be next... WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA?
A) No "Interlopers" -- must be a Stanford Alum or Faculty. Someone familiar with "Stanford Experience" we knew
-- Free exchange of ideas, plenty of active involvement with great peers, Spring rush in the sunshine. Mind-expanding thoughts.
1) Other notable presidents. Examples:
President at Duke: Dr. Vincent Price, MA 85 / PhD 87 from Stanford in Communications. Currently serving
President at Temple: Jason Wingard, BA '92, served as a WR on Walsh's '92 Team (Pac-10 champs). Anybody know him?
M.Ed from Harvard, PhD from Penn State in Ed-Culture & Society (what is that?). Could do TV/Media rights during first week.
Maybe John Bravman, President at Bucknell. A STEM Ed guy.
2) Noble Laureates? This guy: Carl Wieman in Physics and Education, now on faculty. Obama Science Advisor at White House.
https://physics.stanford.edu/people/carl-wieman
Wieman is my current favorite candidate because of devotion to STEM education, with the Nobel in pocket. On faculty now.
B) Disruptive Appointments to shake it up... like the Stanford Band.
1) John Doerr. He gave $1.1 billion. Let him run it for two years, while we look further.
2) Peter Thiel, BA 1989 / JD 1992 -- first Editor of Stanford Review in 1985. Worth >$9BIL. White male, Gay. Check that box.
Would be hated by "tut, tut" faculty crowd; shake it up. Trustees would be uncomfortable, but hey, $BILLIONS. Irrevent, Plus.
3) Elon Musk -- won't happen. So what. Iconoclastic pick would be in keeping with Stanford Band tradition.
C) Other more traditional picks:
https://collegecliffs.com/top-u-s-college-university-presidents/
From the College Cliffs list, Pines is intriguing. Oakland native. STEM Ed background (MechEng B.S. from Berkeley, PhD in same from MIT). Member of NAE. At 59, young and dynamic enough to have an impact. Is leading Maryland in becoming a STEM powerhouse; I dare say that if he’s still there in the next decade, Maryland will be a USNWR (the debate re USNWR’s….interesting ranking criteria can be had another time) top-30 national school. And if we’re into “box-checking”, he does that as a POC.
Only thing is that he was just appointed 3 years ago. Not sure how much/frequently university presidents move around.
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Mick - 07-24-2023
(07-24-2023, 04:55 AM)HalloHaleakala Wrote: From the College Cliffs list, Pines is intriguing. Oakland native. STEM Ed background (MechEng B.S. from Berkeley, PhD in same from MIT). Member of NAE. At 59, young and dynamic enough to have an impact. Is leading Maryland in becoming a STEM powerhouse; I dare say that if he’s still there in the next decade, Maryland will be a USNWR (the debate re USNWR’s….interesting ranking criteria can be had another time) top-30 national school. And if we’re into “box-checking”, he does that as a POC.
Only thing is that he was just appointed 3 years ago. Not sure how much/frequently university presidents move around.
My guess is quite infrequently...unless he gets a call from Stanford or another Top Five university, in which case my guess is "frequently."
RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
PalmTree - 07-24-2023
Here's another name -
John Bravman - BS, MS, PhD in MSE at Stanford and former ME prof and VP for Undergrad Education, serving in the latter capacity for several years just before being hired at Bucknell in 2012. His bio says his current term as Bucknell president (NO political term limit comments, please) ends in 2028, but hey, what's a little buy-out amongst friends, right? Might be a hard sell as his wife's also in a tenured position there and their boys are in their mid-teens, I think the oldest just starting, or about to start hs. Otherwise, he's also a great guy, good communicator, solid and well-respected manager and definitely "gets Stanford".
RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
2006alum - 07-24-2023
(07-24-2023, 09:41 AM)PalmTree Wrote: Here's another name - John Bravman - BS, MS, PhD in MSE at Stanford and former ME prof and VP for Undergrad Education, serving in the latter capacity for several years just before being hired at Bucknell in 2012. His bio says his current term as Bucknell president (NO political term limit comments, please) ends in 2028, but hey, what's a little buy-out amongst friends, right? Might be a hard sell as his wife's also in a tenured position there and their boys are in their mid-teens, I think the oldest just starting, or about to start hs. Otherwise, he's also a great guy, good communicator, solid and well-respected manager and definitely "gets Stanford".
Please g*d no. Bravman forced FroSoCo down our throats and during my era, many entering freshmen who did *not* request it got stuck there because there was so little demand and then had miserable, isolating freshman year experiences. And many with mediocre draw numbers sucked it up for the two-room doubles (uncommon in my day for any but ~700 draw numbers) but then got stuck without a social life sophomore year.
If FroSoCo is exemplary of Bravman's potential vision for Stanford, I'd donate to Bucknell to help it match or exceed any offer from Stanford.
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dabigv13 - 07-24-2023
I lived in FroSoCo (applied by choice because I was a dork, enjoyed the two room double, but split sophomore year with my draw group because it was far and wasn't really our scene). I was also '06 but FWIW I don't think there was a lot of people who got stuck there, I think most applied?
I thought Bravman was a really nice guy and a good faculty resident dean for FroSoCo. Borrowed a few movies from his personal collection. I didn't think FroSoCo was his brainchild necessarily but I honestly don't know. I don't know how he would be as president, but he at least seemed like a good person from my long ago interactions with him.
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needle - 07-24-2023
Bravman is well known to a generation of Stanford alums, for better and for worse.
He belongs on the short list. Kind of seems like an "all in" guy with a deep appreciation for Stanford, including, I think, athletics.
I'm sure he'd be at least a little interested in the Stanford job, though of course he also might be content to stay where he's at.
RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
82lsju - 07-24-2023
(07-24-2023, 11:50 AM)needle Wrote: Bravman is well known to a generation of Stanford alums, for better and for worse.
He belongs on the short list. Kind of seems like an "all in" guy with a deep appreciation for Stanford, including, I think, athletics.
I'm sure he'd be at least a little interested in the Stanford job, though of course he also might be content to stay where he's at.
well he's 66 and
Quote:In October 2022, the Board unanimously approved a second contract extension through at least 2028, which will give Bravman the third-longest tenure among Bucknell presidents.
https://www.bucknell.edu/meet-bucknell/bucknell-leadership/meet-president-bravman
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jacket3ree - 07-24-2023
Stanford's historic presidential turnover:
Jordan, 1891-1913 (23 years)
Branner, 1913-15 (3 years)
Wilber, 1916-43 (28 years)
Tresidder, 1943-48 (6 years)
Sterling, 1949-68 (20 years)
Pitzer, 1968-70 (3 years)
Lyman, 1970-80 (11 years)
Kennedy, 1980-92 (13 years)
Casper, 1992-2000 (9 years)
Hennessy, 2000-16 (17 years)
Tessier-Lavigne, 2016-23 (8 years)
I'm not sure when that cliff list was generated, but I'd say at least every fourth link to a president on it is to the current president who is someone else.
I'm not sure a usual suspect list is the way to go. Based on the linked list, I like the guy currently at DeAnza. His sport coat game is outstanding.
I'll put a plug in for my classmate
Gary May, BEE '85.
St. Louis native, advanced degrees from Berkeley, semiconductor guy, NAE, the Chancellor at Davis for 6.5 years and prior to that served as GT's Dean of the College of Engineering, which per his Davis bio is "the largest and most diverse school of its kind in the nation." When GT changed its lead horse, his name kept coming up on the sports boards but he had just started at Davis and everyone is happy with Angel Cabrera.
Haven't bothered to know if his tenure has been full of controversy - I think he gets heat for participating in outside boards and a defense contractor specifically, but I think one would want a leader that has dealt with controversy.
RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
Mick - 07-24-2023
(07-24-2023, 01:16 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: Haven't bothered to know if his tenure has been full of controversy - I think he gets heat for participating in outside boards and a defense contractor specifically, but I think one would want a leader that has dealt with controversy.
Bravman had an SAT reporting issue, but seems to have handled it well.
John C. Bravman - Wikipedia
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2006alum - 07-24-2023
Just got a complaint about off-topic/political content of a post is a few days (and pages) back - thread has since gotten back on topic, but just a friendly reminder that we can talk about potential candidates' prospects without going into partisan political territory to do so. Thanks all!
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fullmetal - 07-25-2023
I didn't know about the non-opt in FroSoCo residents. I thought that was a completely voluntary program. My impression of Bravman was that he was well-liked.
What about Etchemendy?
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chrisk - 07-25-2023
(07-25-2023, 01:14 PM)fullmetal Wrote: I didn't know about the non-opt in FroSoCo residents. I thought that was a completely voluntary program. My impression of Bravman was that he was well-liked.
What about Etchemendy?
MTL is 64 and a lot of these names being bandied about are older than he is.
The new president at Harvard is 53/54
RE: Marc Tessier-Lavigne will resign effective Aug 31, 2023 -
81alum - 07-25-2023
(07-25-2023, 03:41 PM)chrisk Wrote: MTL is 64 and a lot of these names being bandied about are older than he is.
The new president at Harvard is 53/54
+1
My experience at a different university is that trustees look for Presidents with a long track record and a long possible tenure. That means that most Presidents are 58-62 when appointed. That of course can vary, but the further removed from that age bracket, the more unlikely the appointment.
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jacket3ree - 07-25-2023
(07-25-2023, 01:14 PM)fullmetal Wrote: What about Etchemendy?
Jonrie would be great!
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82lsju - 07-25-2023
(07-25-2023, 05:03 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: (07-25-2023, 01:14 PM)fullmetal Wrote: What about Etchemendy?
Jonrie would be great!
she does (or at least used to) have this license plate...
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jacket3ree - 07-25-2023
(07-25-2023, 05:10 PM)82lsju Wrote: (07-25-2023, 05:03 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: (07-25-2023, 01:14 PM)fullmetal Wrote: What about Etchemendy?
Jonrie would be great!
she does (or at least used to) have this license plate...
![[Image: Sep19_License_Dollies_CR.jpg]](https://project-orion-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/content_picture/3570/Sep19_License_Dollies_CR.jpg)
That's her. We were row mates in Section DD for years and years. She and Angela, another Dolly who at last contact before the stadium refurb was teaching at Carlmont. My then-four-year-old daughter
loved both of them. Now my 32-year-old daughter is a high school teacher of all things. Time is whipping along, isn't it?
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Goose - 07-28-2023
(07-28-2023, 06:21 AM)branner Wrote: As a Stanford graduate, I care that the university is a force for good in society. When Tessier-Lavigne was hired, he spoke of Stanford as benefactor to humanity. It certainly can be, and I hope that it will be.
Stanford receives over a billion dollars per year in direct federal funding. Most of its students receive federal financial aid. Its dependence upon taxpayer dollars makes it a political creature. The university played a deliberate, prominent role in shaping public perceptions of the integrity of the 2020 election and validity of COVID fears and measures.
Not everyone agrees that private universities should receive taxpayer funds. A small number of such universities believes that taxpayer dollars have a corrupting influence and refuse them. Stanford chooses to receive federal funds in exchange for a healthy measure of federal control over its policies, through Title IX and other legislation and regulation.
Whomever Stanford chooses as its next president will be a political actor. Tessier-Lavigne testified before Congress, arguing for increases in federal funding of research universities. That the Board of Trustees would choose, for example, a president who is opposed on moral or political grounds to taxpayer funding of universities or their students is inconceivable. The board will instead choose someone who can foster a continuation, if not an increase, in that flow of funds.
Thus, like it or not, political considerations will infuse the selection process. The moral character and judgement of candidates will matter. Their past actions will be under scrutiny. If they have in the past exercised political power in an official capacity, how they exercised that power is certainly a subject of interest to all who care about Stanford.
This post is right on the money. No matter what else is true, if you take federal money you have to accept the terms that accompany it. I would prefer that the terms were less intrusive than they are at present, but if Stanford accepts the funding it cedes the corresponding control. That involves the University in politics, like it or not.
I would however argue that even if the government were not involved, the donors who in the past gave money to Stanford, and those who do in the future, also have a moral expectation of the University leadership, perhaps even more so than the one imposed by the government. The "moral character and judgement" would matter even if "national" politics was not involved at all. The alumni and students also have an opinion about their leadership. The BoT would always have to deal with the Presidents moral character and judgement even absent federal funds.
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Embo - 07-28-2023
(07-25-2023, 05:18 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: That's her. We were row mates in Section DD for years and years. She and Angela, another Dolly who at last contact before the stadium refurb was teaching at Carlmont. My then-four-year-old daughter loved both of them. Now my 32-year-old daughter is a high school teacher of all things. Time is whipping along, isn't it?
It's a small world. Yes, Jonrie was a Dollie for the 1978-79 season. She was in my dorm that year Her fellow Dollie (and your row mate) was not Angela but Gayle McGinnis. I knew her not just because she lived in my dorm too, but because she was two years behind me in Carlmont High School. Yes, she returned to Carlmont to teach math. As a quick little anecdote, I remember she brought Darrin Nelson over to our lounge to watch Saturday Night Live the spring of 1979. Darrin had his leg in a cast and was on crutches, as he had torn a tendon in track and missed the 1979 season. (Darrin was laughing uproariously over a Mr. Bill vignette).
I looked at John Bravman's bio. I didn't realize he was in my Stanford class. He's not the only one of my class who is a university president. We also had Kristina Johnson, who is the current President of the Ohio State University.
I am just a humble insignificant alum.
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82lsju - 07-28-2023
(07-28-2023, 12:22 PM)Embo Wrote: I looked at John Bravman's bio. I didn't realize he was in my Stanford class. He's not the only one of my class who is a university president. We also had Kristina Johnson, who is the current President of the Ohio State University.
I am just a humble insignificant alum.
Kristina Johnson's last day as OSU president was in May, 2023...
https://www.thelantern.com/2023/07/when-will-ohio-state-have-its-next-president/
and
https://www.columbusmonthly.com/story/lifestyle/features/2023/01/24/inside-the-quick-rise-and-stunning-fall-of-ohio-state-university-president-kristina-johnson/69836610007/
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chrisk - 07-28-2023
(07-28-2023, 12:59 PM)82lsju Wrote: (07-28-2023, 12:22 PM)Embo Wrote: I looked at John Bravman's bio. I didn't realize he was in my Stanford class. He's not the only one of my class who is a university president. We also had Kristina Johnson, who is the current President of the Ohio State University.
I am just a humble insignificant alum.
Kristina Johnson's last day as OSU president was in May, 2023...
https://www.thelantern.com/2023/07/when-will-ohio-state-have-its-next-president/
and
https://www.columbusmonthly.com/story/lifestyle/features/2023/01/24/inside-the-quick-rise-and-stunning-fall-of-ohio-state-university-president-kristina-johnson/69836610007/
After 2 years on the job, the Board of Trustees requested her to resign in November 2022. She lasted a total of 3 years, but she is 2 years older than MTL.