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RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - bbm233 - 05-20-2024
The individual stroke play champion seems to have already been decided, with TA&M #1 Adela Cernousek (good player - world 30th ranked amateur) six strokes clear of the the nearest competitor. There won't be a four-peat of Stanford individual champions, although Paula and Megha have great chances to finish in the top 10.
The amazing part about LSU being in comfortable position is that they have done it with world #1 amateur Ingrid Lindblad playing horribly. I believe she has been their drop score each day. I wouldn't want to face them if possible. Of course, nobody wants to face the Cardinal!
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-20-2024
The Golf Channel coverage of NCAA championship golf begins today and expands from 3 hours in past years to 4 hours starting at 3 pm pacific. The focus today will be on the battle for the individual championship, a battle that is mostly over. Texas A&M's Adela Cernousek leads by 6 shots. Even if it continues to be a runaway, don't be surprised if TGC spends most of its time on Cernousek and whomever else is near her.
Stanford begins its round at 12:20.
As a reminder, you can track scores here - https://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=team&tid=29186
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Jamesy - 05-20-2024
Stanford backs into first place with just a few holes left. Tough scores for us and A&M, +7 for us and +9 for A&M. We're up by one stroke on A&M with LSU 3 strokes behind us.
I think it would be nice to avoid LSU before the finals, but no #1 seed has ever won match play so not sure if we want that 1 seed...
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - PVTree - 05-20-2024
Happy that Wake and Texas have been eliminated.
Tight race for first place...a 3-way photo finish just like the Derby?
I want first place, and the first to win match play (championship) as the #1 seed.
If we end up in first, the possibility of an All-Pac12 semifinals exists.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-20-2024
If Stanford ends up tied with A&M or LSU today, I believe that ties are broken by comparing the drop scores. The team with the lower drop score total wins the tiebreaker. Assuming that is correct, Stanford would likely win a tiebreaker vs. either A&M or LSU with drop scores of 73-77-74 and probably 80 today for Stanford vs. 79-73-75-80 for A&M and 77-81-75 and probably 75 for LSU.
The final 8 will include 4 P12 schools. P12 has dominated NCAAs since they went to match play. A shame not to be able to continue that great history.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Lorcan - 05-20-2024
There's also potential good news as defending national champions, Wake Forest, are knocked out before match play even begins as they fail to qualify finishing 9th.
I didn't read all the way through earlier, and I see someone else commented on this good omen.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 05:37 PM)Lorcan Wrote: There's also potential good news as defending national champions, Wake Forest, are knocked out before match play even begins as they fail to qualify finishing 9th.
I didn't read all the way through earlier, and I see someone else commented on this good omen.
Yeah, but Wake got beat by 8 other teams, any of which has the potential to win it all. Every team is dangerous so I don't take it as a positive that Wake won't be there.
Stanford has really stumbled today, mainly due to struggles from Heck, Xu and Englemann. The team played well on Saturday and Sunday when they teed off early in the day, the greens may have been a little softer and the wind was down. Today they played in the afternoon under tougher conditions and it did not go well. They need to have short memories to reset before tomorrow morning.
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Looks like Stanford vs. Auburn in the quarters tomorrow morning. A rematch of the semifinals in 2022 which Stanford won 3-2. The two losses in that match were Heck and Englemann.
Now we wait to see how Coach Walker sets the matchups. Where does she place Englemann, the most experienced Stanford player, but one whose game has really been off over the last 2 months? She has a record of 1-4 in NCAA match play over her career. Where does she place Martin Sampedro, a frosh with no NCAA match play experience, but clearly the best player on the team right now? Leadoff? Anchor? The match a lot of people (including me) would love to see is Martin Sampedro vs. Anna Davis, Auburn's star frosh.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - oldalum - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 05:11 PM)Jamesy Wrote: no #1 seed has ever won match play so not sure if we want that 1 seed...How quickly they forget! (Stanford 2022)
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Hulk01 - 05-20-2024
Here's a straight matchup--1 vs. 1, 2 vs. 2 etc--of Stanford vs. Auburn.
The parenthetical numbers are each player's current world ranking. The plus/minus numbers indicate each players final score in stroke play:
Sampedro (22), -6 vs. Davis (10), +4
Ganne (58), E vs. Schofill (14), +5
Xu (56), +8 vs. Foster (130), +12
Heck (45), +6 vs. Weidenfeld (57), +13
Engleman (51), +10 vs. Cranston (216), +15
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Jamesy - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 06:12 PM)oldalum Wrote:(05-20-2024, 05:11 PM)Jamesy Wrote: no #1 seed has ever won match play so not sure if we want that 1 seed...How quickly they forget! (Stanford 2022)
Happy to be corrected!
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 06:47 PM)Hulk01 Wrote: Here's a straight matchup--1 vs. 1, 2 vs. 2 etc--of Stanford vs. Auburn.
The parenthetical numbers are each player's current world ranking. The plus/minus numbers indicate each players final score in stroke play:
Sampedro (22), -6 vs. Davis (10), +4
Ganne (58), E vs. Schofill (14), +5
Xu (56), +8 vs. Foster (130), +12
Heck (45), +6 vs. Weidenfeld (57), +13
Engleman (51), +10 vs. Cranston (216), +15
And here are the actual pairings. Match 1 off at 7:40 am.
Englemann (51), +10 vs. Davis (10), +4
Heck (45), +6 vs. Foster (130), +12
Xu (56), +8 vs. Cranston (216), +15
Ganne (58), E vs. Weidenfeld (57), +13
Sampedro (22), -6 vs. Schofill (14), +5
But let's remember that Stanford lost to USC last year when Brianna Navarossa (ranked 161st in the world) beat Rose Zhang (ranked #1). As they say in the financial world, past performance is not a guarantee of future returns.
Tracker here - https://results.golfstat.com/public/leaderboards/gsnav.cfm?pg=match&tid=29193&rid=1
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Farm93 - 05-20-2024
Match play really is darn close to a coin flip.
#1 seed probably has a bit better than a 1 in 8 chance, but it is still close to random.
I realize the format is better for TV than the stroke play team format, but...
It would have been epic this year if they were still using stroke play for the team title.
Texas A&M would have had their individual player weighing the benefits of playing it safe on the final holes to win the individual title against the need to try to save a few strokes for the team. In this format the team fell to a who cares #3 seed, but in a stroke play her potential challenges trying to balance the near sure thing of the individual title against the needs for the team could have produced some epic risky choices that might or might not have paid off. Instead the Monday afternoon broadcast was a bit boring, especially after Wake Forest was eliminated.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Hulk01 - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 05:52 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(05-20-2024, 05:37 PM)Lorcan Wrote: There's also potential good news as defending national champions, Wake Forest, are knocked out before match play even begins as they fail to qualify finishing 9th.
I didn't read all the way through earlier, and I see someone else commented on this good omen.
Yeah, but Wake got beat by 8 other teams, any of which has the potential to win it all. Every team is dangerous so I don't take it as a positive that Wake won't be there.
Stanford has really stumbled today, mainly due to struggles from Heck, Xu and Englemann. The team played well on Saturday and Sunday when they teed off early in the day, the greens may have been a little softer and the wind was down. Today they played in the afternoon under tougher conditions and it did not go well. They need to have short memories to reset before tomorrow morning.
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Looks like Stanford vs. Auburn in the quarters tomorrow morning. A rematch of the semifinals in 2022 which Stanford won 3-2. The two losses in that match were Heck and Englemann.
Now we wait to see how Coach Walker sets the matchups. Where does she place Englemann, the most experienced Stanford player, but one whose game has really been off over the last 2 months? She has a record of 1-4 in NCAA match play over her career. Where does she place Martin Sampedro, a frosh with no NCAA match play experience, but clearly the best player on the team right now? Leadoff? Anchor? The match a lot of people (including me) would love to see is Martin Sampedro vs. Anna Davis, Auburn's star frosh.
Englemann finished two under and tied for 11th in the Pac 12 championships. Walker will try to match her with the opponent's #5.
Is NCAA match play experience necessary for a European player, like Sampredo, with many years of match play experience? I'd think not; match play iis match play.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - oldalum - 05-20-2024
If match play was in the slightest predictable--which I have been told it is not--I would have preferred us to finish second, because LSU and U$C killed us in the afternoon today and we could have avoided both of them tomorrow afternoon if we were second. But maybe they'll both lose in the quarterfinals anyway. :)
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-20-2024
(05-20-2024, 09:34 PM)oldalum Wrote: If match play was in the slightest predictable--which I have been told it is not--I would have preferred us to finish second, because LSU and U$C killed us in the afternoon today and we could have avoided both of them tomorrow afternoon if we were second. But maybe they'll both lose in the quarterfinals anyway. :)
Yeah, matching up vs. Oregon or UCLA looks better for Stanford on paper than Auburn. Auburn is a tough team with both a US Amateur and an Augusta National Women's Amateur champ. Beat them and Stanford could face a rematch vs. USC from last year's semis. I would welcome another shot at the Trojans.
And Hulk, Coach Walker did not match Englemann vs. Auburn's #5 player. She put out Englemann in the 1st slot and the Auburn coach countered with her #1 player, Anna Davis. Yes, Englemann needs to find the form she had the last 2 rounds at P12s when she shot 69-69.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - M T - 05-21-2024
(05-20-2024, 05:11 PM)Jamesy Wrote: Stanford backs into first place with just a few holes left. Tough scores for us and A&M, +7 for us and +9 for A&M. We're up by one stroke on A&M with LSU 3 strokes behind us.Really rough day. After -3, -3, -3, Stanford shot +11. After -7, -4, +1, TxA&M shot +15. USC started 1.5 hours earlier and shot -3.
Last 4 holes (all players): Stanford +9, TxA&M +10. Both teams dropped an 80.
Almost seems they were trying NOT to finish #1. Nerves? Lack of concentration? A sense that the finish order didn't matter?
I just checked the weather they had and there is nothing remarkable there. temperature 60-66 all day, humidity 68%-78%, winds under 4mph, gusts under 9mph, clouds came and went.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - oldalum - 05-21-2024
(05-21-2024, 02:34 AM)M T Wrote: Last 4 holes (all players): Stanford +9, TxA&M +10. Both teams dropped an 80.It looked pretty windy toward the end, greens seemed fast. But LSU was in the same group with us, played the last 4 holes (all players) in +3.
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - oldalum - 05-21-2024
(05-20-2024, 10:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Coach Walker . . . put out Englemann in the 1st slot and the Auburn coach countered with her #1 player, Anna DavisWhat do you think was Auburn's strategy in that? Inspire the remaining players with a lead thru the day and a win in the first match?
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Update: if that's the strategy it's not working yet, Englemann has been leading for each of the first 4 holes so far.
The whole team is up 4-1-0: Heck is on fire with 4 birdies and a par in the first 5 holes and is up 4! What a start!
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - SkiBum80 - 05-21-2024
(05-21-2024, 08:35 AM)oldalum Wrote:The team fire needs an urgent kindling refresh. Looks all tied up 2-2-1 now.(05-20-2024, 10:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: Coach Walker . . . put out Englemann in the 1st slot and the Auburn coach countered with her #1 player, Anna DavisWhat do you think was Auburn's strategy in that? Inspire the remaining players with a lead thru the day and a win in the first match?
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Update: if that's the strategy it's not working yet, Englemann has been leading for each of the first 4 holes so far.
The whole team is up 4-1-0: Heck is on fire with 4 birdies and a par in the first 5 holes and is up 4! What a start!
RE: Stanford Women's Golf Spring 2024 - Spiny_Norman - 05-21-2024
None of the Cardinal golfers are playing particularly badly. But the Auburn players keep making putts and recording birdies.
Xu is playing Auburn's #5 player who was +15 in stroke play. She has just gone birdie-birdie-birdie to take a 1 up lead on Xu.
Ganne's opponent has birdied 3 of the last 4 holes to take a 2 up lead.
Martin Sampedro's opponent has birdied the last 3 holes to take a 2 up lead.
Stanford has to be patient and believe that their opponents will come back down to earth.