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Re: Jordan Williamson - metsjetsfan - 01-03-2012

(01-02-2012, 11:38 PM)Rando90 link Wrote:
Quote:BUT, as long as he is a Stanford kicker, I will be extremely agitated
So whenever you seem him kick an extra point or field goal your just going to get pissed?

Never said that, but okay.  Never blamed only Jordan for losing the game (coaching and defense both let us down).  All I said is that  from now on, I will be nervous when he has to hit a big FG in a big game.  That is all I'm saying.  Will you be confident when those times come?  If so, I applaud you.

But anyway, the main reason I am making a second post is because I just saw this tweet:

Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

And here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_19663622

From the bottom of my heart, I feel awful for Jordan and will be pulling hard for him next year.  That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school.  Hopefully Jordan will realize that football is nothing in the scheme of the rest of the world, and he should feel no obligation to let this affect him in the future.

Re: Jordan Williamson - metsjetsfan - 01-03-2012

(01-02-2012, 11:38 PM)Rando90 link Wrote:
Quote:BUT, as long as he is a Stanford kicker, I will be extremely agitated
So whenever you seem him kick an extra point or field goal your just going to get pissed?

Never said that, but okay.  Never blamed only Jordan for losing the game (coaching and defense both let us down).  All I said is that  from now on, I will be nervous when he has to hit a big FG in a big game.  That is all I'm saying.  Will you be confident when those times come?  If so, I applaud you.

But anyway, the main reason I am making a second post is because I just saw this tweet:

Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

And here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_19663622

From the bottom of my heart, I feel awful for Jordan and will be pulling hard for him next year.  That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school.  Hopefully Jordan will realize that football is nothing in the scheme of the rest of the world, and he should feel no obligation to let this affect him in the future.

Re: Jordan Williamson - metsjetsfan - 01-03-2012

(01-02-2012, 11:38 PM)Rando90 link Wrote:
Quote:BUT, as long as he is a Stanford kicker, I will be extremely agitated
So whenever you seem him kick an extra point or field goal your just going to get pissed?

Never said that, but okay.  Never blamed only Jordan for losing the game (coaching and defense both let us down).  All I said is that  from now on, I will be nervous when he has to hit a big FG in a big game.  That is all I'm saying.  Will you be confident when those times come?  If so, I applaud you.

But anyway, the main reason I am making a second post is because I just saw this tweet:

Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

And here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_19663622

From the bottom of my heart, I feel awful for Jordan and will be pulling hard for him next year.  That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school.  Hopefully Jordan will realize that football is nothing in the scheme of the rest of the world, and he should feel no obligation to let this affect him in the future.

Re: Jordan Williamson - metsjetsfan - 01-03-2012

(01-02-2012, 11:38 PM)Rando90 link Wrote:
Quote:BUT, as long as he is a Stanford kicker, I will be extremely agitated
So whenever you seem him kick an extra point or field goal your just going to get pissed?

Never said that, but okay.  Never blamed only Jordan for losing the game (coaching and defense both let us down).  All I said is that  from now on, I will be nervous when he has to hit a big FG in a big game.  That is all I'm saying.  Will you be confident when those times come?  If so, I applaud you.

But anyway, the main reason I am making a second post is because I just saw this tweet:

Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

And here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_19663622

From the bottom of my heart, I feel awful for Jordan and will be pulling hard for him next year.  That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school.  Hopefully Jordan will realize that football is nothing in the scheme of the rest of the world, and he should feel no obligation to let this affect him in the future.

Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 12:35 AM)metsjetsfan link Wrote:Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school. 

I agree with part of your statement.  As bad as I feel for Williamson, it's an unfortunate, sometimes uncomfortable part of being a reporter to have an obligation to approach a player in that situation. Hopefully he/she was approaching with tact, even sympathy, but there is almost a professional obligation to at least ask how the player is handling the situation.  As someone who flirted with the reporting profession years ago, I can say that was one big reason why I ended up moving in another professional direction.  It was just damned hard to impose when someone was grieving or suffering.  But I think the same willingness to impose is related to other, more admirable qualities, like the willingness to challenge people in power when they are trying to obstruct justice or hide information. 

On the other hand, I think DeCastro did just right.  He has an obligation to defend his team mate, to stand up for him in what has to be just a nightmarish moment for any competitor.  He's not a reporter, but a fellow student, and a teammate who has gone to war, figuratively speaking, with Williamson, and needs to show support.  I actually think this kind of loss, as painful as it is now, can help bring a team and coaching staff together for the future.  Obviously, DeCastro, Luck, Martin, and others are leaving for the NFL, but the coaches can rally the other players by reminding them how close they were.  It will be a different roster of players, but adversity can be a strong bond.

A victory would have been sweeter (and deserved); but time to look for the silver linings in these things, IMO

Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 12:35 AM)metsjetsfan link Wrote:Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school. 

I agree with part of your statement.  As bad as I feel for Williamson, it's an unfortunate, sometimes uncomfortable part of being a reporter to have an obligation to approach a player in that situation. Hopefully he/she was approaching with tact, even sympathy, but there is almost a professional obligation to at least ask how the player is handling the situation.  As someone who flirted with the reporting profession years ago, I can say that was one big reason why I ended up moving in another professional direction.  It was just damned hard to impose when someone was grieving or suffering.  But I think the same willingness to impose is related to other, more admirable qualities, like the willingness to challenge people in power when they are trying to obstruct justice or hide information. 

On the other hand, I think DeCastro did just right.  He has an obligation to defend his team mate, to stand up for him in what has to be just a nightmarish moment for any competitor.  He's not a reporter, but a fellow student, and a teammate who has gone to war, figuratively speaking, with Williamson, and needs to show support.  I actually think this kind of loss, as painful as it is now, can help bring a team and coaching staff together for the future.  Obviously, DeCastro, Luck, Martin, and others are leaving for the NFL, but the coaches can rally the other players by reminding them how close they were.  It will be a different roster of players, but adversity can be a strong bond.

A victory would have been sweeter (and deserved); but time to look for the silver linings in these things, IMO

Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 12:35 AM)metsjetsfan link Wrote:Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school. 

I agree with part of your statement.  As bad as I feel for Williamson, it's an unfortunate, sometimes uncomfortable part of being a reporter to have an obligation to approach a player in that situation. Hopefully he/she was approaching with tact, even sympathy, but there is almost a professional obligation to at least ask how the player is handling the situation.  As someone who flirted with the reporting profession years ago, I can say that was one big reason why I ended up moving in another professional direction.  It was just damned hard to impose when someone was grieving or suffering.  But I think the same willingness to impose is related to other, more admirable qualities, like the willingness to challenge people in power when they are trying to obstruct justice or hide information. 

On the other hand, I think DeCastro did just right.  He has an obligation to defend his team mate, to stand up for him in what has to be just a nightmarish moment for any competitor.  He's not a reporter, but a fellow student, and a teammate who has gone to war, figuratively speaking, with Williamson, and needs to show support.  I actually think this kind of loss, as painful as it is now, can help bring a team and coaching staff together for the future.  Obviously, DeCastro, Luck, Martin, and others are leaving for the NFL, but the coaches can rally the other players by reminding them how close they were.  It will be a different roster of players, but adversity can be a strong bond.

A victory would have been sweeter (and deserved); but time to look for the silver linings in these things, IMO

Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 12:35 AM)metsjetsfan link Wrote:Stanford OL David DeCastro to reporter who approached sobbing K Jordan Williamson: "Leave him alone!"

That reporter needs to learn how to respect others.  I love DeCastro for defending his teammate-proud to have these guys represent our school. 

I agree with part of your statement.  As bad as I feel for Williamson, it's an unfortunate, sometimes uncomfortable part of being a reporter to have an obligation to approach a player in that situation. Hopefully he/she was approaching with tact, even sympathy, but there is almost a professional obligation to at least ask how the player is handling the situation.  As someone who flirted with the reporting profession years ago, I can say that was one big reason why I ended up moving in another professional direction.  It was just damned hard to impose when someone was grieving or suffering.  But I think the same willingness to impose is related to other, more admirable qualities, like the willingness to challenge people in power when they are trying to obstruct justice or hide information. 

On the other hand, I think DeCastro did just right.  He has an obligation to defend his team mate, to stand up for him in what has to be just a nightmarish moment for any competitor.  He's not a reporter, but a fellow student, and a teammate who has gone to war, figuratively speaking, with Williamson, and needs to show support.  I actually think this kind of loss, as painful as it is now, can help bring a team and coaching staff together for the future.  Obviously, DeCastro, Luck, Martin, and others are leaving for the NFL, but the coaches can rally the other players by reminding them how close they were.  It will be a different roster of players, but adversity can be a strong bond.

A victory would have been sweeter (and deserved); but time to look for the silver linings in these things, IMO

Re: Jordan Williamson - Hey - 01-03-2012

I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

Re: Jordan Williamson - Hey - 01-03-2012

I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

Re: Jordan Williamson - Hey - 01-03-2012

I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

Re: Jordan Williamson - Hey - 01-03-2012

I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 09:17 AM)Big Brother link Wrote:I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

I agree that the special teams has taken a step back the last two years with Polian in charge.  I'm not sure how to measure this, but when Polian came from Notre Dame, he had a reputation as a top-notch recruiter, particularly on the west coast.  I'm not sure if the coaching staff is balancing his ability to coach against his ability to recruit, or if they are not seeing the same thing on special teams that we are.  But that is definitely one area in which we can step up next year, as the team fights to near in the national rankings. 



Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 09:17 AM)Big Brother link Wrote:I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

I agree that the special teams has taken a step back the last two years with Polian in charge.  I'm not sure how to measure this, but when Polian came from Notre Dame, he had a reputation as a top-notch recruiter, particularly on the west coast.  I'm not sure if the coaching staff is balancing his ability to coach against his ability to recruit, or if they are not seeing the same thing on special teams that we are.  But that is definitely one area in which we can step up next year, as the team fights to near in the national rankings. 



Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 09:17 AM)Big Brother link Wrote:I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

I agree that the special teams has taken a step back the last two years with Polian in charge.  I'm not sure how to measure this, but when Polian came from Notre Dame, he had a reputation as a top-notch recruiter, particularly on the west coast.  I'm not sure if the coaching staff is balancing his ability to coach against his ability to recruit, or if they are not seeing the same thing on special teams that we are.  But that is definitely one area in which we can step up next year, as the team fights to near in the national rankings. 



Re: Jordan Williamson - socalstanfan1 - 01-03-2012

(01-03-2012, 09:17 AM)Big Brother link Wrote:I have to point a finger at Brian Polian.  This is the second straight year out special teams were terrible in a bowl game, and he's been our special teams coach for both those years.  There were countless mistakes last year in the Orange Bowl causing Harbaugh to comment "This is a special teams disaster". 

I don't think all the blame goes to the kicker for missing those shots, he clearly wasn't prepared.  I don't believe Ty Montgomery was briefed well enough either (Jeremy Stewart gave him some quick coaching).  And our coverage units seemed to rely on one person too much instead of gang-tackling, those kickoffs were tough to watch.

I agree that the special teams has taken a step back the last two years with Polian in charge.  I'm not sure how to measure this, but when Polian came from Notre Dame, he had a reputation as a top-notch recruiter, particularly on the west coast.  I'm not sure if the coaching staff is balancing his ability to coach against his ability to recruit, or if they are not seeing the same thing on special teams that we are.  But that is definitely one area in which we can step up next year, as the team fights to near in the national rankings. 



Re: Jordan Williamson - KartyFan - 01-03-2012

Nobody has ever been able to show that certain players crumble under pressure (or perform better under pressure) in any sport. I believe there is no such thing as "clutch" (or the opposite).

Using a sample size of one game is pretty silly. Let's talk if he misses a couple more chip shots at the end of games.

I think this loss is particularly painful because we haven't lost a close game since the 2009 Big Game. We've been spoiled!

Re: Jordan Williamson - KartyFan - 01-03-2012

Nobody has ever been able to show that certain players crumble under pressure (or perform better under pressure) in any sport. I believe there is no such thing as "clutch" (or the opposite).

Using a sample size of one game is pretty silly. Let's talk if he misses a couple more chip shots at the end of games.

I think this loss is particularly painful because we haven't lost a close game since the 2009 Big Game. We've been spoiled!

Re: Jordan Williamson - KartyFan - 01-03-2012

Nobody has ever been able to show that certain players crumble under pressure (or perform better under pressure) in any sport. I believe there is no such thing as "clutch" (or the opposite).

Using a sample size of one game is pretty silly. Let's talk if he misses a couple more chip shots at the end of games.

I think this loss is particularly painful because we haven't lost a close game since the 2009 Big Game. We've been spoiled!

Re: Jordan Williamson - KartyFan - 01-03-2012

Nobody has ever been able to show that certain players crumble under pressure (or perform better under pressure) in any sport. I believe there is no such thing as "clutch" (or the opposite).

Using a sample size of one game is pretty silly. Let's talk if he misses a couple more chip shots at the end of games.

I think this loss is particularly painful because we haven't lost a close game since the 2009 Big Game. We've been spoiled!