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Hulk was not exaggerating about Bryce Love incoming freshman - Redrum - 04-29-2015

Hulk wasn't kidding. The thing that just JUMPS out : Love's up-field cut and his acceleration.  Football gurus talk about those qualities all the time, but his video shows you what they mean.Time after time.  He can change direction and accelerate out of his cut as fast or faster.  Yes, he's playing against opponents of unknown quality.  But what's not dependent on opposition quality is what he does whether it's a 2 yard gain or a long TD cutting through traffic.  What I also liked about the compilation is it included plays that didn't work.  He'll need to get stronger and put on weight to run with that success at the college level, but the rest of the package is already put together.

Sorry, tried to link but the video Hulk watched and I referred to is stuck behind a pay wall.


Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - Stymie - 04-29-2015

If Love even approaches Darren Nelson's capabilities and achievements I will be a very happy chappy, as will all of us.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - JohnR34231 - 04-29-2015

Here's Love's highlights on Hudl. He is a little reminiscent of Darren Nelson.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1013833/highlights/33802375/v2

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - ATLCard - 04-29-2015

(04-27-2015, 02:52 PM)Hulk01 link Wrote:Once more: We've never seen anyone with Love's of of combination speed and quickness.  Not Walters, not Nelson, not Milburn, not Bookman. Not no one.

Not to go all old fart, but I saw a lot of Darrin Nelson's combination of speed and quickness and I'm not buying your premise yet.  Nelson was a freak athlete who went into the Stanford track record books and was the first college running back to have 1,000 yds rushing and catch 50 passes (and did it 3 different years at Stanford).  He was an excellent collegiate sprinter but the speed wasn't what made him special as a runner -- it was his incredible quickness and moves.    The classic Darrin Nelson run included lots of defenders on the ground grasping at air.

Love's tape looks good so I look forward to seeing him on the field.  As Stymie was saying, if he ends up being mentioned in the same breath as Darrin Nelson and Glyn Milburn then we are all going to be ecstatic.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - needle - 04-29-2015

What stood out to me on the video is that Love pretty much never gets tackled by the sideline.

I see a tough, tough kid who doesn't mind the contact.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - Mick - 05-01-2015

Just a reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPv5s0CHZ_0

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - slide - 05-01-2015

thanks Mick.  Nelson was very special, especially on cuts and acceleration.  if Love is even close to him, we have something special.  I am bit Mizzou on that type of comparison.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - Rally - 05-01-2015

(05-01-2015, 10:32 AM)slide link Wrote:thanks Mick.  Nelson was very special, especially on cuts and acceleration.  if Love is even close to him, we have something special.  I am bit Mizzou on that type of comparison.

I have no idea what bit Mizzou means, but I'll have another, please.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - BostonCard - 05-01-2015

Missouri is the show me state.  Being "Mizzou" on something means waiting to see what actually happens before coming to a conclusion on it.  In other words, let's see how Love does in his college games before we make comparisons to Darrin Nelson.

BC

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - Rally - 05-01-2015

(05-01-2015, 12:33 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Missouri is the show me state.  Being "Mizzou" on something means waiting to see what actually happens before coming to a conclusion on it.  In other words, let's see how Love does in his college games before we make comparisons to Darrin Nelson.

BC

I got it, BC, just being ornery. 

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - Spiny_Norman - 05-04-2015

(04-27-2015, 08:51 AM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:[quote author=Mick link=topic=12063.msg117315#msg117315 date=1430146988]
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My takeaway is that the nothing has changed with the offensive philosophy of the team.  Coach Shaw said that he underestimated how long it would take for the OL to gel.  It was 8-9 games, not 3-4.  With an experienced QB and an experienced OL, we will probably see the same offensive approach we saw in 2014.  I guess the coaches know what they are doing, but I am concerned that it makes Stanford predictable and easier for opponents to prepare for.  You are in pretty bad shape when even fans like me can predict the play from the formation which happened a fair bit towards the end of the season.

I'm trying to parse this last paragraph.  One the one hand, Coach Shaw said it took 3/4 of the season for the OL to gel.  That seems like an awfully long time to me.  Separately, you mentioned that by the end of last season the casual fan could predict plays based upon formation.  Does that indicate that the OL didn't gel so much as the playbook got a lot easier?
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Mick - my interpretation of Coach Shaw's words is that the offensive approach will not change much.  The offense finally gelled the last 3 games.  The OL came together.  Kevin Hogan executed well.  Things clicked.  Since the objective is to build on that success, the playbook will not change much.  But to my observation the play calling became predictable for part of the season, especially the stagnant middle of the season (despite the myriad sets and player packages).  Do I remember correctly that Oregon defenders said that they were calling out Stanford's plays before the ball was snapped?  If the players are substantially the same and the coaches are the same and the approach is the same, how does Stanford avoid falling in the same rut?
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Lee Ward talked to the Bootleg about offensive predictability in 2014 among other subjects.  Lombardi writes about it here if you don't want to listen to all 24 minutes of the discussion - http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/86356/fullback-lee-ward-talks-nfl-draft-and-stanfords-offensive-turnaround

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - OutsiderFan - 05-04-2015

Sounds like my belief that Shaw and the offensive braintrust need to channel their inner Bill Walsh - short passing game as de-facto run game - in 2015 is shared by someone who actually played in the offense the last few years.

It's no secret that when Stanford lines up in the jumbo set and tells the whole stadium and everyone watching on TV it is going to run the ball, that defenses generally stop it.  So it would behoove the team to become much less predictable with its runs, and needs to threaten with the pass even on run tendency downs and distances.

Re: A Few Notes from Coach Shaw - akiddoc - 05-04-2015

Darrin Nelson is the most elusive back I have ever seen at Stanford, and extremely explosive as well. Love will be hard pressed to come close.