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Griffins78 - 12-08-2019
Our goalie is just a redshirt freshman. OMG - she's freakin awesome. She was getting everyone pumped up before the shoot out - pointing and shouting to everyone. She seemed to be close on most of the UNC shots. Her two blocks put Kiki in the position to win it and she delivered.
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qwerty49 - 12-08-2019
Hey BC, Catarina Macario is also a Torrey Pines alum.
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Lorcan - 12-08-2019
(12-08-2019, 09:25 PM)81alum Wrote: What is the most national championships we have won in one year? We have a shot at several more....
6 or 7 depending on if you include IRA Rowing Titles or not.
"The victory continues an unprecedented run of success for Stanford Athletics, which has captured seven national championships overall during the 2018-19 campaign, a haul that includes NCAA crowns in women's volleyball, women's swimming, men's gymnastics, women's water polo, women's tennis and men's golf. The six NCAA titles matches the record for an academic year, with the Cardinal also winning six back in 1996-97."
https://gostanford.com/news/2019/6/2/rowing-ltw-five-straight-ira-titles.aspx
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martyup - 12-08-2019
Outstanding.
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cardfan77 - 12-08-2019
What about Kennedy Wesley taking the 5th PK. Game on the line and she took a beautiful shot. So calm and poised and only in her first year.
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Canalejas - 12-08-2019
Schools with Multiple NCAA Team Championships in One Year
6 Stanford 1996-97
6 Stanford 2018-19
5 UCLA 1981-82
5 Stanford 1991-92
5 Stanford 1994-95
5 Stanford 1997-98
4 USC 1962-63
4 UCLA 1969-70
4 UCLA 1970-71
4 UCLA 1971-72
4 UCLA 1983-84
4 Stanford 1985-86
4 Texas 1985-86
4 Stanford 1986-87
4 Stanford 1992-93
4 Stanford 1993-94
4 Arkansas 1993-94
4 Georgia 1998-99
4 UCLA 1999-2000
4 UCLA 2000-01
4 Stanford 2001-02
4 UCLA 2002-03
4 UCLA 2003-04
4 Stanford 2016-17
4 Oklahoma 2016-17
4 Stanford 2017-18
...
[and many, many more with 3 or 2 titles in a year]
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FarmBoy - 12-08-2019
(12-08-2019, 09:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote: (12-08-2019, 09:13 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote: (12-08-2019, 09:08 PM)Lorcan Wrote: We have a very emphatic goalkeeper. Stanford wins! 5-4 on PK's!
Heck yes! I literally could not watch it (I don't have ESPNU) and there's no radio coverage, plus the NCAA live stats site for PKs doesn't update. Thank you for the updates!
Two national titles in one day!
I was able to watch on the ESPN app; even though I don’t have ESPN U.
BC
I thought the NCAA had a policy of broadcasting all of the NCAA championships for free on some platform. I can't remember where I heard this, but it's seemed to hold up consistently every time I've looked for a championship match up. I was surprised this wasn't streamed on NCAA.com and that I was blocked from watching using my DirectTV account. Luckily I was able to watch on my Sling TV account, but still, surprised the NCAA doesn't do more to make sure the championships are readily available to help build the fan base.
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Farm93 - 12-08-2019
That free streaming is definitely not in play for many early round items.
Since a broadcaster spent time and money on coverage it would not be very wise for the NCAA to then make it free on their site.
Great game for those of us in the stands. Thankful OT is only 20 mins as It was clear they were getting tired.
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BostonCard - 12-08-2019
(12-08-2019, 09:33 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Hey BC, Catarina Macario is also a Torrey Pines alum.
I knew she was from San Diego; I didn’t know she went to TPHS. As if I don’t have enough reasons to like her.
BC
Sophia Smith a well deserved most outstanding player.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ncaasoccer/status/1203894703847964672?s=21[/tweet]
BC
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d4cohn - 12-08-2019
(12-08-2019, 09:16 PM)d4cohn Wrote: https://twitter.com/StanfordWSoccer/status/1203889859175174144
An apt description. Though I would almost apply it more to the save
Meyer made to set up the winner. That second save was unreal.
Also, compare Meyer's reaction to the look on the UNC keeper's face prior to the
final kick. It was almost as if UNC keeper knew the match was over then.
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UltimateCard - 12-08-2019
If you can withstand the tension (even knowing the result), here's the entire PK sequence:
https://www.ncaa.com/video/soccer-women/2019-12-08/stanford-vs-north-carolina-full-penalty-shootout
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BostonCard - 12-08-2019
I’ll let this tweet speak for itself.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ourgamemagazine/status/1203890796048470016?s=21[/tweet]
BC
(12-06-2019, 08:35 PM)d4cohn Wrote: Unbelievable save by Meyer on the PK! However, she should have gotten booked
for getting in the face of the UCLA penalty kick taker, and taunting her.
Great first half for Stanford obviously, but this referee doesn't have control
over the game. It has been poorly officiated so far.
Some back-story...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/quakesfanstu/status/1203903102388068353[/tweet]
In context perhaps not surprising.
BC
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d4cohn - 12-08-2019
[quote="BostonCard" pid='264101' dateline='1575871433']
I’ll let this tweet speak for itself.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ourgamemagazine/status/1203890796048470016?s=21[/tweet]
BC
https://giphy.com/gifs/espn-bye-damianlillard-dametime-VapWo1dvqJquP3frRb
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Madera86 - 12-08-2019
I like our goalies. :)
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Canalejas - 12-08-2019
I wanna hear more about that backstory to the trash talk aimed at UCLA.
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BostonCard - 12-08-2019
(12-08-2019, 11:24 PM)Canalejas Wrote: I wanna hear more about that backstory to the trash talk aimed at UCLA.
Here you go...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/elliottalmond/status/1203407180709261312[/tweet]
BC
Here’s Katie “weak link” Meyer stopping the PK against UCLA.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ncaasoccer/status/1203156123357831168?s=21[/tweet]
BC
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d4cohn - 12-08-2019
Quote: (12-06-2019, 08:35 PM)d4cohn Wrote: Unbelievable save by Meyer on the PK! However, she should have gotten booked
for getting in the face of the UCLA penalty kick taker, and taunting her.
Great first half for Stanford obviously, but this referee doesn't have control
over the game. It has been poorly officiated so far.
Some back-story...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/quakesfanstu/status/1203903102388068353[/tweet]
In context perhaps not surprising.
BC
I agree. However, that being said, any ref worth his or her salt has to
give a yellow for that (my brother is a state level soccer ref, and he would
say the ref should have noticed that, and booked her as well as the UCLA player
that showed him up earlier and kicked the ball away for delay of game).
Same with the obligatory yellow, for example,
if someone removes their jersey celebrating a goal. On the other hand,
got to love players backing up their talk (i.e. why we love Sherman so much).
To clarify, I actually don't think her celebration tonight after the second PK save (since it wasn't in an opponent's face)
would warrant a yellow. The fact that she taunted the UCLA player in her face is the difference for me at least.
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BostonCard - 12-09-2019
Based on the reaction, I thought it had been worse (I couldn’t watch live), but I understand the need for a yellow so that the refs don’t lose control of the match.
I didn’t post the backstory to excuse her actions, but to provide context. Evidently she’s being called a lot of things by an upset Bruin dad, which is ironic considering it was the Bruin faithful that started calling her the weak link.
I think the (american) football team could use a little bit of her attitude.
BC
(12-08-2019, 09:20 PM)Embo Wrote: BC -
Take it from an old alum like me: If the opportunity presents itself in your own backyard, don’t miss out.
It was F****ing awesome to be here in person.
Yeah, I tried to rally the troops to go, but nobody wanted to come with me. Agree that these events are special (I had a blast at last years football national championship, even though Stanford wasn’t playing). Glad you enjoyed it.
BC
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Viking_Guy - 12-09-2019
Now that I'm in less danger of apoplexy...
First things first. Gutty, gritty, and all those other words about the effort from the side tonight.
Second, the officiating. Not unbalanced, but the way it was balanced was definitely in favor of North Carolina - a LOT of physical play let go. Stanford is NOT good at that part of the game - they don't have an enforcer "hard" type player on the side, which is at points a weakness.
Third, and most concerning throughout the game - our lack of an aerial game really haunted us all game long. Corner after corner with no solid attempts to show for it. No one getting up to put some really good serves into the box on frame. Everything had to be on the ground, and UNC had 4 players in the center of the box against Haley and Macario.
And fourth, the pitch. All the rain made it REALLY soft, and that keeps you from cutting and accelerating with confidence. That plays to a more physical style, which the Tar Heels bring in spades.
First half: UNC actually changed formations, to a 4-4-2, worried about our outside forward play after the UCLA game. The midfield four was a diamond, which both put one player pressuring forward and another essentially tracking Macario the entire game. Catarina had a tough match, but a large part of that in both matches was 2-3 players around her AT ALL TIMES.
But the other half of it was the pressure it put on Breide and in the defensive midfield space for Stanford. Stanford is used to having time to switch the ball through Breide, or, if not, room in the backline. Their formation actually put their two forwards cutting off balls from Girma and Hiatt outside, and put someone immediately on Breide if the ball goes up the middle. They did a really good job of preventing Stanford from changing the point of attack by taking away the Cardinal's primary channels for doing so.
Initially, it didn't seem like it would matter. Stanford bossed the first 10 minutes, earning I think 4 corners in the first 10 minutes. But the Tar Heels endured, cranked up the physicality, and Stanford didn't respond. A couple of loose passes by the Cardinal defense and midfield (Hiatt and Doms had a couple of howlers each in the first half), and UNC got that great look off the broken up set piece that was hit directly into the wall.
Two hard physical challenges, one on Wesley and one on Smith, without a call or even a talking to from the referee emboldened UNC and disrupted Stanford. But that's Anson's style - his team style is what has set the style for American women's football for decades - get a lot of big, fast, strong players, then feed them a raw meat fairly Darwinian practice regimens, and provoke a style "if you don't play right to the edge of the cardable, you're not playing" levels of physicality. It's one reason I hate watching Stanford play them - beyond the fact that they tend to injure our best players.
Meanwhile, Haley was getting chopped whenever she received the ball back to goal, or grabbed to prevent her from working back to it (I clearly remember one ball where she settled it backwards a yard or two, and a second went by where she didn't move toward the ball - you could see an arm being held). And very few set pieces to be had.
When Stanford subbed, it was difficult to watch Goad and Greubel back out of challenges that UNC was winning because their midfielders were simply playing through them.
Second half was back and forth. Stanford never could get on rhythm, because of UNC disrupting the midfield, and forcing the ball to one sideline or another, preventing the Cardinal from switching the point of attack with the ease to which they are accustomed. It ended up taking a lot of long diagonal balls in the air to the far side of the field to try to spring players forward.
Best chance of the game was probably the hammer that Smith hit off the crossbar late in the second OT.
As for the shootout - um, none of the three saves was particularly great. As a keeper, the first Meyer save was in the perfect spot - not too wide, and about two feet off the ground - that's where you will be if you simply fall in that direction. The UNC save on Malatskey was a better spot, but Malatskey telegraphed going right pretty openly, and didn't hit it with much pace. And the last one , by the UNC freshman, was just awful - it hit Meyers in the legs - she almost overdove it, as she did the third one.
What was more important were two conversions. First, the fifth, by Kennedy Wesley. She needed to make that shot and coolly opened her hips to bait the UNC keeper to the left and calmly finished into the open right side.
And second, by the player who I think was really the MOP, but plays a position that won't get it - Naomi Girma. Her PK hit SIDE NETTING about 5 feet off the ground - that's the definition of unsaveable. And she time and again cleaned up 1v1s, and through balls, and stepped forward to short stop UNC attacks from getting off the ground. Stanford gave up 1 goal in two games against two of the top 10 offenses in the country.
Overall, UNC did everything they could to disrupt Stanford's attack, and were largely successful. But they didn't have enough offense to get past Stanford's backline and keeper - Meyers did have a darned good game, except for some questionable distribution with her feet and an ill-advised attempt to come out and punch a cross that she completely missed.
To be honest, UNC women play like Stanford's men - high pressure, physical, and looking for anything to pounce on. It's not a fun style to play against when you are a possession and passing team.
More in a minute,
VG
Yeah, the backstory was posted on a soccer discussion forum. Apparently what people thought was a UCLA soccer parent was behind the goal ragging on Meyers all game long (people were thinking it might have actually been Fishel's dad.) And after she gave up a pretty soft goal, it only escalated.
What was not shown was that apparently he tried to go into the backstage area at Avaya to continue to, ah, remonstrate. With more profanity involved.
Or at least that was what was being reported.
VG
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Viking_Guy - 12-09-2019
One more addendum:
I'm not saying that the saves were easy; more that the shots were bad. In that situation, on that pitch, ANY save is hard.
On formation and tactics; essentially, UNC's 4 mids put a lid on our game through the middle of the pitch - the only space was up the sidelines. That brings in the sideline as a defender, and to take advantage of it, you have to send your outside backs forward.
Let's see if I can do this
Hiatt Girma
Pickett Breide Wesley
Smith Doms Macario Malatskey
Haley
UNC put two players in the space between Breide and the two outside backs, and one behind Breide. So the middle of the defensive third is clogged up, leaving only the back and the sidelines to work with. Then three midfielders started off compact in the middle, taking away easy balls to Doms and Macario, again keeping Stanford wide, and with Smith the only threat for speed, unless Haley could make a turn. Not a coincidence that our best chances were off those two types of plays. But there is a defender on Haley, and another one both backing her up and watching for Macario, and defenders in front of Malatskey and Smith.
What Stanford eventually began to do was to switch higher up the field, through Macario. Doms had another tough game, and didn't draw any attention away for Catarina - she ended up losing a lot of 1v1 confrontations without drawing the second defender.
To beat that kind of clogged up field, you need to move the ball very fast, and very decisively - it's not "receive the ball, take a couple of touches, turn and survey, then hit a pass" - by that point, a UNC defender is on you, and your passing options have been closed down. But Stanford almost always wants to play that deliberative possession and passing style, and isn't very comfortable with the "dump and chase" that isn't pretty, but sometimes works. The other way to beat it is to overload by having a center back bring the ball up and split the two UNC forwards - which happened more and more as the game went on - extra attacker, but exposing you to the counter.
(Another way UNC's women look like Stanford's men - use of college's open sub rules to keep fresh legs to keep pressing. I do agree with an earlier poster - Haley and Macario both looked dog-tired by the second OT.)
One other thing about the way UNC played - by baiting Stanford into playing wide, what danger are you exposing yourself to? Crosses in the air, which again, ain't the Cardinal's strong suit. Stanford had a number of good chances when Smith, Malatskey, Macario, and others went all the way to the endline and then tried to cut in - but far too often they cut in from the sideline into the heart of the UNC defense, looking for a way through a thicket of Tar Heel legs.
Finally, I'd like to say that this was a really great win. UNC has been Stanford's tournament bugaboo for the last decade - in large part because the style Ratcliffe wants to play depends on time and space that the Tar Heels don't give you. To overcome that, with a team lacking a strong aerial presence and any enforcer-type defenders, is really a remarkable testament to how good Stanford is at the type of game they want to play. They couldn't play it offensively tonight, but their defense was stellar, and they never gave up the breakdown that UNC counts on.
Go Card!
VG