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RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - treetop11 - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 09:56 AM)81alum Wrote:(01-25-2020, 08:44 AM)BosCard Wrote: Great point about over passing. But I think that's exactly why Tara put in Brown. Brown is always looking to drive plus she is very strong and can absorb a lot of physical contact. Contrast this with Lacie who is going to pass a lot more and gets pushed off her route on offense by a very physical / foul prone defense. And this definitely wasn't a Jump 3-point shooting game since Colorado was so aggressively guarding the perimeter. Great to see Tara recognize the strengths of her players and for them to step up when called upon depending on the game situation.I think this is right.
At the chalk talk I asked what we had to do to defeat Colorado's particular kind of defense. Back door cuts and aggressive drives to the basket was the answer. Defenses that play that close are vulnerable to drives because the defender has less reaction time and forgoes recovery space in order to be so close.
Who on our team is really, really good at driving to the basket? Carrington and Jones. And--I thought--Williams. And so as I walked over to Maples from the chalk talk I thought that Williams was going to have to have a great game.
Credit JR Payne--she of course had the same knowledge and idea--and no doubt Williams had Colorado's best defender and was the focus of their defense, going 0/5 in the first half. That left no one on our team who routinely drives to the basket. The one basket Brown scored was on a drive she made into the paint to set up a floater.
Furthermore, her team was exceptionally well prepared to guard the back door cuts. They did it not by guarding the cutters so much as by guarding the entrance passes, which were deflected or intercepted more often than not. The way to punish that is for the passer to fake the pass then take it to the basket herself--Haley would have been perfect for that role.
Finally, Colorado was also exceptional at getting back on defense. The crowd audibly groaned on numerous occasions when we thought we were getting a fast break only to have Williams have to back it out because Colorado defenders got back. Williams might have made a couple of mistakes by not trying to force a pass forward, but she has had games with lots of turnovers, and last night she had 5 assists to 2 turnovers, so she had probably been instructed to be conservative and not to risk turning the ball over.
Colorado was excessively physical, but if your team finds something that works it would be foolish not to use it as long as the refs don't call it, so this is a problem with officiating. But that is not ALL they were. They were very well prepared to exploit our weakness. Now other teams will be too. Until we can prove that we can consistently punish close defenses by driving and finishing at the rim, we will get more of this.
By the way, this was also very similar to how Texas beat us. Haley Jones was uncharacteristically timid in that game--her first big game on the road in hostile territory--and we never really developed the threat to drive on the basket.
We can be a good jump-shooting team when the stars line up, but we also need the aggression and talent to drive and finish at the rim. Lexie, I thought, was able to do just enough (with a career night, given that Colorado was focusing more on Williams) to help us eek out the win. Belibi can also drive when she starts at the elbow. We are going to need more.
Agree on all points. You are very astute both in this post and all I have read of yours. Agree with the injuries, Tara has limited options of existing players to penetrate. One thing they can do is get max spacing so players that are "semi-drivers" from the guards/wings like the Hulls, Wilson, Jump and perhaps Jerome might be able to have enough room to operate to be more effective driving. But more so, we may need to go to more high post from Fingall, Prechtel, and Belebi where they set more picks for our guards/wings or we run picks and rolls. Also, I noted that Fran was more effective when she went off the dribble from the high post. Note that Oregon uses that high screen for Ionescu time after time(at least agst us) and it kept working. Of course, we don't have her to create, but Williams or Lexie could do a decent "poor-woman's imitation" of Ionescu mixing in rolls to the basket by our post as Hebard does some.
Unfortunate for our injuries, but at least the cupboard is not bare - we just need to adapt in some way and get comfortable with the adaptation. The good sign is that even though OSU and CU were nail biters, we did win and the team didn't curl up and fold. So they do have resiliency and toughness.
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - terry - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 01:00 PM)81alum Wrote: That pass from Lacie to Prechtel is one of the best basketball plays I have ever seen. Prechtel used her height to catch that and took it in between two shorter defenders. If the pass was even a smidge less accurate or Prechtel was less tall we lose in regulation. It had to be perfect, and it was.
I agree completely. That was a fantastic inbounds pass!
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - crackpot - 01-25-2020
(01-25-2020, 04:42 PM)oldalum Wrote:(01-25-2020, 03:49 PM)crackpot Wrote: there's currently no easy way to "give back" my seat so they can resell it or give it away. I'll swear there used to be.There still is. When you login, click on Manage My Account and then Gift Back Tickets
Wow, they don't make that easy to find, but thanks oldalum!!
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - oldalum - 01-26-2020
the other functions I make too-frequent use of are to transfer tickets, and exchange tickets (for a different game, then invite friends)
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - crackpot - 01-26-2020
(01-26-2020, 12:28 AM)oldalum Wrote: the other functions I make too-frequent use of are to transfer tickets, and exchange tickets (for a different game, then invite friends)
Have you been able to figure out if they resell your tickets? Every time I've tried to look for decent tickets in the lower bowel, none are available.
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - Baez87 - 01-26-2020
(01-25-2020, 07:26 PM)terry Wrote:The pass, the catch, and the basket—a wonderful play and a great memory to take from this season. The next time you view the video, be sure to watch the tight screen that Kiana set up against a much bigger player to spring Prechtel. It was a well-executed team play!(01-25-2020, 01:00 PM)81alum Wrote: That pass from Lacie to Prechtel is one of the best basketball plays I have ever seen. Prechtel used her height to catch that and took it in between two shorter defenders. If the pass was even a smidge less accurate or Prechtel was less tall we lose in regulation. It had to be perfect, and it was.
I agree completely. That was a fantastic inbounds pass!
RE: WBB: Stanford 76 Colorado 68 OT - 81alum - 01-26-2020
(01-26-2020, 10:00 AM)Baez87 Wrote: The pass, the catch, and the basket—a wonderful play and a great memory to take from this season. The next time you view the video, be sure to watch the tight screen that Kiana set up against a much bigger player to spring Prechtel. It was a well-executed team play!Thanks for pointing that out. You can see the play on the Pac 12 highlights at 1:40 here:
https://pac-12.com/videos/recap-no-6-stanford-womens-basketball-survives-upset-scare-ot-defeat-colorado-76-68
In watching that replay, Lacie was looking to Prechtel the whole time. Fingall was in the corner and Lexie out on the wing, each drawing a defender to them to stop the three point shot. When Nadia's defender realized the pass was going inside she was a little too late to catch up to Prectel. Hollingshed was on Prechtel, and Williams managed to screen her just enough to give Prechtel a step on her. They probably would have been better off hard fouling Prechtel and forcing her to make two free throws, but they were probably a step to slow to do even that.