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RE: FB -- San Jose State Game Thread - CardinalSagehen - 11-30-2024

(11-29-2024, 06:42 PM)terry Wrote: Stanford was ahead or tied in the 4th quarter against TCU, Wake Forest, Cal, and San Jose State. Stanford let all of those games slip away. Stanford just failed to take advantage of good opportunities in all of those games. Think how different this season would look if Stanford had seized the moment in those games.

I respect your optimism and support for the program. That said, every one of those teams beat or even annihilated Stanford in total yards and yards per play. Every one of those teams outplayed Stanford not just in the head-to-head matchup but also statistically across the season. They deserved to beat Stanford and most of those games were not as close as the score.

We were 2-4 in close games - our two FBS wins were also squeakers. While we could have won any of those games you mentioned, we also could have lost the two that we won. I think 3-9 is exactly what this team deserved and it has nothing to do with luck, a fine line between winning and losing, or a few plays here or there. The program needs to grapple with the full scale of its terribleness if anything is going to change.

RE: FB -- San Jose State Game Thread - SkiBum80 - 11-30-2024

(11-30-2024, 01:13 AM)BostonCard Wrote:
SkiBum80 dateline='[url=tel:1732944469' Wrote: 1732944469[/url]']
When I think of the last couple years of Coach Shaw, I think of Slow Mesh (Mess) failures
When I think of the first couple years of Coach TT I think of 4th & go for it failures. Including many that either gave opponent great field position, or passed up a field goal that could have been important. Oh, like today for example. That passed up field goal mighta sent the game to overtime. Instead of a drudgery shuffle back to locker room with big L pinned to your back.

It was fourth and goal at the 1. Going for it was the right call. There are lots of places to criticize TT for being overly aggressive, and there are plenty of problems with a team that can’t punch it in from first and goal at the three, but the decision to go for it was the correct one. I think even Shaw would have gone for it.

BC

Shaw had intellectual brutality. And in most cases would successfully punch it in.
TT does not, and has not.

RE: FB -- San Jose State Game Thread - terry - 11-30-2024

(11-30-2024, 02:59 AM)CardinalSagehen Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 06:42 PM)terry Wrote: Stanford was ahead or tied in the 4th quarter against TCU, Wake Forest, Cal, and San Jose State. Stanford let all of those games slip away. Stanford just failed to take advantage of good opportunities in all of those games. Think how different this season would look if Stanford had seized the moment in those games.

I respect your optimism and support for the program. That said, every one of those teams beat or even annihilated Stanford in total yards and yards per play. Every one of those teams outplayed Stanford not just in the head-to-head matchup but also statistically across the season. They deserved to beat Stanford and most of those games were not as close as the score.

We were 2-4 in close games - our two FBS wins were also squeakers. While we could have won any of those games you mentioned, we also could have lost the two that we won. I think 3-9 is exactly what this team deserved and it has nothing to do with luck, a fine line between winning and losing, or a few plays here or there. The program needs to grapple with the full scale of its terribleness if anything is going to change.

Oh, that wasn't optimism. Just the opposite. The fact that Stanford lost all of those winnable games in the 4th quarter is the sign of a bad team. Good teams take advantage of their opportunities. Bad teams find a way to lose.

RE: FB -- San Jose State Game Thread - gailtate - 11-30-2024

(11-30-2024, 06:59 AM)terry Wrote:
(11-30-2024, 02:59 AM)CardinalSagehen Wrote:
(11-29-2024, 06:42 PM)terry Wrote: Stanford was ahead or tied in the 4th quarter against TCU, Wake Forest, Cal, and San Jose State. Stanford let all of those games slip away. Stanford just failed to take advantage of good opportunities in all of those games. Think how different this season would look if Stanford had seized the moment in those games.

I respect your optimism and support for the program. That said, every one of those teams beat or even annihilated Stanford in total yards and yards per play. Every one of those teams outplayed Stanford not just in the head-to-head matchup but also statistically across the season. They deserved to beat Stanford and most of those games were not as close as the score.

We were 2-4 in close games - our two FBS wins were also squeakers. While we could have won any of those games you mentioned, we also could have lost the two that we won. I think 3-9 is exactly what this team deserved and it has nothing to do with luck, a fine line between winning and losing, or a few plays here or there. The program needs to grapple with the full scale of its terribleness if anything is going to change.

Oh, that wasn't optimism. Just the opposite. The fact that Stanford lost all of those winnable games in the 4th quarter is the sign of a bad team. Good teams take advantage of their opportunities. Bad teams find a way to lose.

Indeed, Terry. I'll go a step further and say the self-styled "optimism" is part of the conspicuous problem for Stanford football. Rationalization, institutional ambivalence and hand-wringing have enabled the poor athletic management and historically sub-par performance we see on the field. Andrew Luck must function as a disruptive authoritarian in his new role. A change agent. Not sure he has the temperament, but I can hope. He needs the power to realize his vision.