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Re: Class of 2017 - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 01-16-2017
Now the #19 class per 247 -- which heavily skews toward larger classes. You'd need to go all the way down to Cincinnati at #88 to find the next highest rated class of 11.
Re: Class of 2017 - Extra Point - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 08:34 AM)JPRI link Wrote:I think we are making the assumption that coaches pay a lot of attention to rankings when they decide who to recruit. Shaw says he pays none.
It is the other way around. The people who give out star ratings rely heavily on the number and quality of the recruits' scholarships. When the stars for a recruit are lower or higher than expected, it is because these "experts" are reluctant to make big deviations from their initial assessment.
Re: Class of 2017 - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 01:32 PM)Extra Point link Wrote:[quote author=JPRI link=topic=11701.msg186592#msg186592 date=1484580873]
I think we are making the assumption that coaches pay a lot of attention to rankings when they decide who to recruit. Shaw says he pays none.
It is the other way around. The people who give out star ratings rely heavily on the number and quality of the recruits' scholarships. When the stars for a recruit are lower or higher than expected, it is because these "experts" are reluctant to make big deviations from their initial assessment.
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Right. That's how a 4 star becomes a 5 star when they commit to Bama. It's not because the services want to make Bama look good, it's because Saban has earned the benefit of the doubt.
Re: Class of 2017 - TreesAndBirds - 01-16-2017
I like the "it's only the beginning" part. Actually I like the whole thing.
https://twitter.com/ryanjohnson_50/status/821075262611800074
Re: Class of 2017 - BigEasyCard - 01-16-2017
Stanford jumps from 32 to 24 in the Rivals team ranking of recruiting classes.Â
The quality of this class is telling. Every other one of the 100 programs ranked by Rivals has more committed recruits than the Cardinal.
Geaux Cardinal!Â
Re: Class of 2017 - socalstanfan1 - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 11:19 AM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:Really excited about DWP. A year or two under Turley could make him a total monster.
I haven't been around here a full year yet. We flipped a bunch of guys last-minute last season (Pryts, Hamilton, Eboh, Harrington, Segina) - were people on the board aware of all of these happening before the fact? I know people knew of Adebo in this class, but is it possible we could come out of the blue and flip someone else?
I, too, wonder about the possibility of flipping Molden. As is frequently pointed out on this board, admission to Stanford is one of the great predictors of ultimately committing to the program. I'm hoping that not only the coaches, but also the recruits themselves are in Molden's ear.
These would not be "flips" since they are not committed anywhere as of yet, but for the casual,observers in the recruiting world landing either Johnson or Warner (or both!) would have a similar, surprising impact I think. Though after getting top players from all,over the country, this shouldn't be surprising anymore.
Re: Class of 2017 - OutsiderFan - 01-16-2017
Didn't Molden commit to Washington after being admitted by Stanford?
I could see committing to a school before Stanford admission, to reserve your fallback option, and staying committed after Stanford admission, but to do so after being admitted is pretty rare.Â
Re: Class of 2017 - yvonne - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 03:35 PM)socalstanfan1 link Wrote:I, too, wonder about the possibility of flipping Molden. As is frequently pointed out on this board, admission to Stanford is one of the great predictors of ultimately committing to the program.
Well, he certainly isn't going to come to Stanford without being admitted, is he?
Re: Class of 2017 - SamuelMcF - 01-16-2017
(01-16-2017, 04:19 PM)Yvonne link Wrote:[quote author=socalstanfan1 link=topic=11701.msg186646#msg186646 date=1484606158]
I, too, wonder about the possibility of flipping Molden. As is frequently pointed out on this board, admission to Stanford is one of the great predictors of ultimately committing to the program.
Well, he certainly isn't going to come to Stanford without being admitted, is he?
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He's been in for a while now.
Re: Class of 2017 - yvonne - 01-16-2017
not my point
Molden - JohnR34231 - 01-17-2017
Here's the story on him choosing Washington.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2016/11/elijah_molden_explains_why_he_1.html
He had previously mentioned that one of the reasons he liked Washington is that he could just jump on the freeway and be there in less than three hours. So maybe Stanford was a little far from home for him.
Re: Class of 2017 - OutsiderFan - 01-17-2017
Did he go through the admissions gauntlet so he could say he was admitted to Stanford? I would assume being admitted leaves the door open for a grad transfer, or regular transfer as well?
Re: Class of 2017 - donkey687 - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 06:26 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Did he go through the admissions gauntlet so he could say he was admitted to Stanford? I would assume being admitted leaves the door open for a grad transfer, or regular transfer as well?
He would need to reapply for a transfer in the future and admissions would base their decision on all factors including college academic performance.
Re: Class of 2017 - JohnR34231 - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 06:26 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Did he go through the admissions gauntlet so he could say he was admitted to Stanford? I would assume being admitted leaves the door open for a grad transfer, or regular transfer as well?
I would assume he went through the admissions process because he was seriously considering Stanford and wanted to have it as an option when he made his final decision. He just decided for undisclosed reasons he would be happier and more comfortable at Washington. I'm guessing one of those reasons was proximity to home.
Re: Class of 2017 - donkey687 - 01-17-2017
Leonard Warner III is a guy that hasn't been discussed much on this board, but he is a top 10 ILB prospect which is a big position of need. It sounds like we have a very good shot based on this article. No mention of admission status, but he sounds like a Stanford guy. Not a lot of guys left on our board, but Leonard is an important one.
https://www.dawgnation.com/football/recruiting/leonard-warner-iii-had-a-remarkable-stanford-official-which-complicates-his-decision
Re: Class of 2017 - cardcrimson - 01-17-2017
(01-16-2017, 01:44 PM)ThePOC link Wrote:[quote author=Extra Point link=topic=11701.msg186629#msg186629 date=1484598765]
[quote author=JPRI link=topic=11701.msg186592#msg186592 date=1484580873]
I think we are making the assumption that coaches pay a lot of attention to rankings when they decide who to recruit. Shaw says he pays none.
It is the other way around. The people who give out star ratings rely heavily on the number and quality of the recruits' scholarships. When the stars for a recruit are lower or higher than expected, it is because these "experts" are reluctant to make big deviations from their initial assessment.
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Right. That's how a 4 star becomes a 5 star when they commit to Bama. It's not because the services want to make Bama look good, it's because Saban has earned the benefit of the doubt.
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Is that why some of our guys seem to be dropping in the rankings. At one point, we had two of the top four according to Rivals. . . .
Re: Class of 2017 - JohnR34231 - 01-17-2017
(01-17-2017, 09:45 AM)donkey687 link Wrote:Leonard Warner III is a guy that hasn't been discussed much on this board, but he is a top 10 ILB prospect which is a big position of need. It sounds like we have a very good shot based on this article. No mention of admission status, but he sounds like a Stanford guy. Not a lot of guys left on our board, but Leonard is an important one.
https://www.dawgnation.com/football/recruiting/leonard-warner-iii-had-a-remarkable-stanford-official-which-complicates-his-decision
It seems to me that there are two ways of looking at the way the Warner feels.
1. Stanford is a magical place and I want to go there.
2. Stanford is a magical place, but at the end of the day I can get everything I need in my home state so why go all the way out to California?
Hopefully the former prevails.
Re: Class of 2017 - BostonCard - 01-17-2017
Walker Little is now the top recruit... not just at his position, in the whole country.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/all-shook-up-247sports-announces-its-32-five-star-recruits-in-the-class-of-2017/
Have we had a #1 overall recruit.
And this video shows why.
https://twitter.com/maxpreps/status/821419546112163840
BC
Re: Class of 2017 - BobK - 01-17-2017
John Elway and Randy FisaniÂ
Re: Class of 2017 - DC 86 - 01-17-2017
247's most recent listing prior to today's release had Foster Sarell #1 and Walker Little #2 which obviously was incredible, Stanford certainly has never had the top two recruits in the nation, few schools have. In the revised listing just released Little indeed moved up to #1 but unfortunately Sarell dropped to #8.