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Re: WVB for the Championship - CompSci87 - 12-19-2016

Bizarre! Sounds like a bug. Can you start a recording and start watching the recording immediately?

Re: WVB for the Championship - CompSci87 - 12-19-2016

Bizarre! Sounds like a bug. Can you start a recording and start watching the recording immediately?

Re: WVB for the Championship - oldalum - 12-20-2016

(12-19-2016, 06:34 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Bizarre! Sounds like a bug. Can you start a recording and start watching the recording immediately?
I'll try it when I get back next weekend.

Re: WVB for the Championship - oldalum - 12-20-2016

(12-19-2016, 06:34 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Bizarre! Sounds like a bug. Can you start a recording and start watching the recording immediately?
I'll try it when I get back next weekend.

Re: WVB for the Championship - ca245 - 12-20-2016

I have Comcast and I get P12-BA in SD and P12-Net in HD. For games that are shown live on P12-BA but not P12-Net, I use one of three options:
(1) watch live in SD on P12-BA,
(2) wait for the delayed showing on P12-Net in HD (there almost always is one but at some odd hour, so best to record and watch at a more convenient time), or
(3) stream live on my iMac -- picture is always HD, even if P12-BA is showing simultaneously only in SD; only hiccup is occasional freeze.

Re: WVB for the Championship - ca245 - 12-20-2016

I have Comcast and I get P12-BA in SD and P12-Net in HD. For games that are shown live on P12-BA but not P12-Net, I use one of three options:
(1) watch live in SD on P12-BA,
(2) wait for the delayed showing on P12-Net in HD (there almost always is one but at some odd hour, so best to record and watch at a more convenient time), or
(3) stream live on my iMac -- picture is always HD, even if P12-BA is showing simultaneously only in SD; only hiccup is occasional freeze.

Re: WVB for the Championship - paloalto - 12-28-2016

Rather than start a new thread I will post here.  I just read the comments about McCaffrey not playing in the Sun Bowl.  There were some comments that were harshly critical.  Do any WVB fans have an opinion about Hayley Hodson leaving school?  Here are the circumstances I heard and everything is third hand.

1.) Hodson had an annoying bout of shin splints that wouldn't fully heal for eight months.
2.) Hodson felt she could better recover at home than at Stanford.
3.) Hodson has been living a normal life since leaving.  She is in no way "bedridden".
4.) Hodson has not made any public comments in support of the VB team or in congratulating them on their success.
5.) At least publicly coach Dunning has expressed positive comments about Hodson and expects her back next season.

Obviously I don't know the extent of the shin splints or if there is more to the story.  Based on this scenario does anyone else find leaving the team and school a little self-centered. 

Re: WVB for the Championship - FarmBoy - 12-28-2016

I've heard through the socal vball community that there is more than is publicly shared. Someone stopping out to heal doesn't seem selfish to me.

Re: WVB for the Championship - oldalum - 12-28-2016

(12-19-2016, 06:34 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Bizarre! Sounds like a bug. Can you start a recording and start watching the recording immediately?
Yes, with a short (seconds) delay.

Re: WVB for the Championship - DC 86 - 12-28-2016

(12-28-2016, 02:12 PM)paloalto link Wrote:Based on this scenario does anyone else find leaving the team and school a little self-centered.
Self-centered is usually used as a pejorative but sometimes it's justified and appropriate behavior.

Seems that a student-athlete trying to recover from injury should choose the environment that gives her the best opportunity to heal; by definition she is being self-centered but self-centered in the right sense.

Re: WVB for the Championship - CompSci87 - 12-28-2016

Hayley's mom posted on Volleytalk in response to all the creepy speculation that was going on. I am not going to repeat what she said here, but I'll just say that I don't think criticism of Hayley is warranted.

Re: WVB for the Championship - 76lsjumb - 12-28-2016

(12-28-2016, 03:42 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Hayley's mom posted on Volleytalk in response to all the creepy speculation that was going on. I am not going to repeat what she said here, but I'll just say that I don't think criticism of Hayley is warranted.

Not sure if you were looking to make as cryptic a post as possible, but, if so, I congratulate you on a job well done!  ;D

For those of us who are long-time Stanford WVB fans -- this was the first victorious Nat'l Championship game I didn't attend  :( -- who haven't even thought of criticizing Hayley, but who don't follow Volleytalk, is there any more info you can share?  Particularly, info that would fuel optimism that she will be returning next year to help us do a little dynasty-building?

If so, thanks!

Re: WVB for the Championship - CompSci87 - 12-28-2016

Sorry. Hayley's mom's post from shortly after she went on leave is on this VT thread page, author onceuponatime: http://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/65788/hodson-officially-2016-season?page=9

The most recent news I know of is what I posted earlier in this Cardboard thread. http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?topic=16299.msg182867#msg182867

Re: WVB for the Championship - 76lsjumb - 12-28-2016

(12-28-2016, 07:25 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Sorry. Hayley's mom's post from shortly after she went on leave is on this VT thread page, author onceuponatime: http://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/65788/hodson-officially-2016-season?page=9

The most recent news I know of is what I posted earlier in this Cardboard thread. http://thecardboard.org/board/index.php?topic=16299.msg182867#msg182867

Thanks!! Looking at the timeline of her mom's posting and Dunning's comments certainly appears to allow for optimism -- both for her personally and for that team dynasty thing.  It's certainly too bad she wasn't able to play in this year's NCAAs, but, hopefully, taking the time to get everything right will give her a couple more chances to get that Final Four experience!

Re: WVB for the Championship - M T - 12-29-2016

As with all the people we encounter in our every-day lives, athletes (& store clerks & drivers in the car ahead of you & etc) have the same range of emotions & traumas & joys as each of us.  We too often expect them to be already stable adults.  I don't know about the rest of you, but certainly I went through emotional issues when I was an undergrad.  It is a time in our lives when we leave behind the familiar & comfortable to follow new paths and can be very disquieting.  For me, athletics was a steadying influence, but then I never had a season-ending injury, and never had the burden of expected brilliance.

I wish the best for Hayley and am glad she had a loving home to support her.  I hope that Stanford will be in her future.  John Dunning certainly seems like a very supportive coach for his athletes.



Re: WVB for the Championship - 81alum - 12-29-2016

Shin splits can be very, very disheartening and for some people there is nothing that can be done to overcome them short of rest.  My daughter battled them through four years of high school track.  The more she practiced the worse they would get, until she nearly quit.  We are a society that thinks there is always a fix for things, but this is one ailment that can't be fixed with a pill or a knife.  Probably half of her track friends tried all kinds of precautions and treatments--trips to the trainer or the podiatrist--and while sometimes they helped a little, often they did nothing at all. 

Trying to play your sport while battling serious shin splints is an exercise in total frustration.  Determination, grit, and hard work are all punished.  The harder you try to play through it, the worse your performance becomes and the greater the pain.  At least with an ACL you have a calendar you can try to speed up by actively doing your exercises.  Not so much with a chronic condition like shin splints.

I can easily see, from my own daughter's experience, how shin splints can be very demoralizing to a competitor.  It is not difficult to imagine how this could exacerbate or lead to depression.  I sympathize.  I also admire Hayley's Mom for talking about it.  We need to destigmatize mental health conditions in general, and we especially need to do so among athletes, whose competitive world can be very unforgiving of perceived weaknesses.

Re: WVB for the Championship - paloalto - 12-30-2016

Thanks for the insight on shin splints.  Did any of the track athletes with chronic shin splints take off for an extended period of time and return 100% without any recurring problems?

Re: WVB for the Championship - BobK - 12-30-2016

Yes 8) :D  Speaking about Stanford only. 

Re: WVB for the Championship - 81alum - 12-30-2016

(12-30-2016, 08:27 AM)paloalto link Wrote:Thanks for the insight on shin splints.  Did any of the track athletes with chronic shin splints take off for an extended period of time and return 100% without any recurring problems?
Shin splints are very, very common among runners, and the best advice is to ramp up practice very slowly to allow your legs to adjust.  However, for some people this does not work.  It is repetitive impact pulling on the connecting points of muscles to bone.  Hurdlers like my daughter are quite vulnerable because of the intense impacts. 

Complete rest almost always eliminates shin splints.  The problem is that some people get them back as soon as they ramp up their practice time.  While the most common shin splints are those felt by beginning runners, Hodson's issues are obviously not that.  Sometimes shin splints are related to stress fractures or compartment syndrome.  We've had some wbb players who have had surgery to relieve compartment syndrome, I believe.  Bob, wasn't Sara James one of them? 


Re: WVB for the Championship - BobK - 12-30-2016

I think you are correct on James, 81.Â