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Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BostonCard - 02-04-2018
Loved where they said McPhee... and were going to have to see more of Britney McPhee in this second half. Almost as if they were foreshadowing something.
BC
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-04-2018
(02-04-2018, 08:23 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Loved where they said McPhee... and were going to have to see more of Britney McPhee in this second half. Almost as if they were foreshadowing something.
BC
Yes, that was fun to hear after-the-fact. At the time they said it I didn't think it would happen. 2 points for a whole half looked pretty bleak.
My favorite part of the highlight reel is watching the bench when McPhee hit the backdoor cut off the Princeton. It has been since Notre Dame I think that I saw our kids that excited.
Sagarin has us up to 14, Oregon stays at 6, somehow. We'll see what the polls do.Â
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-04-2018
(02-04-2018, 08:23 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Loved where they said McPhee... and were going to have to see more of Britney McPhee in this second half. Almost as if they were foreshadowing something.
BC
Yes, that was fun to hear after-the-fact. At the time they said it I didn't think it would happen. 2 points for a whole half looked pretty bleak.
My favorite part of the highlight reel is watching the bench when McPhee hit the backdoor cut off the Princeton. It has been since Notre Dame I think that I saw our kids that excited.
Sagarin has us up to 14, Oregon stays at 6, somehow. We'll see what the polls do.Â
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BostonCard - 02-04-2018
Also, lots of McPhee continuing...
BC
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BostonCard - 02-04-2018
Also, lots of McPhee continuing...
BC
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - mbdude - 02-04-2018
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/960271139405574144/pu/vid/1280x720/UD3HlWU1ipNXg_ud.mp4
McPhee returning to locker room after presser
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - mbdude - 02-04-2018
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/960271139405574144/pu/vid/1280x720/UD3HlWU1ipNXg_ud.mp4
McPhee returning to locker room after presser
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BostonCard - 02-04-2018
Every time I see the Ducks court I am reminded of how much I hate the floor. I swear it looks like somebody threw up all over the floor.
BC
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BostonCard - 02-04-2018
Every time I see the Ducks court I am reminded of how much I hate the floor. I swear it looks like somebody threw up all over the floor.
BC
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-04-2018
(02-04-2018, 09:30 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Every time I see the Ducks court I am reminded of how much I hate the floor. I swear it looks like somebody threw up all over the floor.My wife doesn't watch sports, but when she saw the floor while I was watching the game, she asked why they had allowed all those sections of the court to become weathered and unpolished. The only thing worse than the Oregon basketball court is the Boise State football field.
BC
The RPI clones have Stanford up 14 slots to #12. They usually are the same as the NCAA system, which won't be out until tomorrow. Wow. Well, it will go down when we play Colorado and Utah, even if we win.Â
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-04-2018
(02-04-2018, 09:30 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Every time I see the Ducks court I am reminded of how much I hate the floor. I swear it looks like somebody threw up all over the floor.My wife doesn't watch sports, but when she saw the floor while I was watching the game, she asked why they had allowed all those sections of the court to become weathered and unpolished. The only thing worse than the Oregon basketball court is the Boise State football field.
BC
The RPI clones have Stanford up 14 slots to #12. They usually are the same as the NCAA system, which won't be out until tomorrow. Wow. Well, it will go down when we play Colorado and Utah, even if we win.Â
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 2006alum - 02-05-2018
Agree with much of what has already been said. Fantastic game from McPhee, who really exploited her defensive assignments. To me, the critical sequence of events was this: Williams had a great dribble into traffic while Johnson set a screen for McPhee and then Williams had a quick pass out to McPhee for a three from outside. That built her confidence, and when she hit another one later in the quarter, Oregon seemed to switch from zone to man defense for a few possessions, presumably afraid it was going to start raining threes. But that opened things up for McPhee to go on her 19-point spree. Sabally really seemed to struggle covering her, and then they switched back to zone and got burned again from outside, and then swapped back to man with Ionescu on McPhee, who I think was already getting tired and then also had to chase McPhee around the court. That then allowed McPhee to either outrun her cut all the way to the basket for a layup, or more often, stop and take (and make) a jumper. As I said in the other thread on our improvement, taking (and making) those mid-range jumpers was so critical. That, coupled with their need to switch from zone to man when we started draining threes, is part of why she had such a gonzo fourth quarter that we haven't seen in quite a while - she's a nightmare to guard in a man defense, but we haven't faced many lately. But it all starts from setting screens and making threes to challenge the zone. If we can keep doing that effectively over the course of the season, we will be a far scarier offensive team.
I don't blame them for trying to go to man given our scoring barrage against the zone, but the Oregon tactic I do question a bit was that they didn't try to press more in the last three minutes when they had already switched to man. That two-minute possession where Marta twice ran down the clock, we twice missed, and we twice got the o-board, was a textbook example of when a defense needs to press and be aggressive even if it risks a foul. They tried it once unsuccessfully around the 9 minute mark in the fourth and Marta handled the trap brilliantly, and then they seemed to back away from it. I don't understand why they just sat and let Marta run the time off the clock when they still, theoretically, could have gotten back into it, esp. since we're not the best free throw shooting team.
Also, our screens were amazing this game. Johnson was fantastic at getting McPhee open, and on a few occasions Williams dribbled into traffic and then passed out for a nifty inside outside three pointer. We really got to see the Princeton working in the second half, especially late when they went to man. Johnson really is a glue player, and because we didn't need much scoring from our bigs inside, every other aspect of her game has been top notch lately.
Also: agreed about our ball control and fewer turnovers. Part of that, I think, is that once they went to man we didn't need to try to pass inside as much. I think our achilles heel has been trying to get the ball inside a zone, and it's where we commit so many of our turnovers. We didn't see that as much in the second half, because we either dribbled in and then passed out, set a screen to get space inside, or shot a three. I'm not sure how to find out, but I suspect we had only a few layups in the second half because we stopped trying to go inside after they smothered Johnson and Smith with their zone early on. They also weren't terribly aggressive in their defense, which also helped. I'm not sure if they were tired or flustered or we just wanted it more, but in the fourth quarter they were pretty flaccid in pressuring the ball handler.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 2006alum - 02-05-2018
Agree with much of what has already been said. Fantastic game from McPhee, who really exploited her defensive assignments. To me, the critical sequence of events was this: Williams had a great dribble into traffic while Johnson set a screen for McPhee and then Williams had a quick pass out to McPhee for a three from outside. That built her confidence, and when she hit another one later in the quarter, Oregon seemed to switch from zone to man defense for a few possessions, presumably afraid it was going to start raining threes. But that opened things up for McPhee to go on her 19-point spree. Sabally really seemed to struggle covering her, and then they switched back to zone and got burned again from outside, and then swapped back to man with Ionescu on McPhee, who I think was already getting tired and then also had to chase McPhee around the court. That then allowed McPhee to either outrun her cut all the way to the basket for a layup, or more often, stop and take (and make) a jumper. As I said in the other thread on our improvement, taking (and making) those mid-range jumpers was so critical. That, coupled with their need to switch from zone to man when we started draining threes, is part of why she had such a gonzo fourth quarter that we haven't seen in quite a while - she's a nightmare to guard in a man defense, but we haven't faced many lately. But it all starts from setting screens and making threes to challenge the zone. If we can keep doing that effectively over the course of the season, we will be a far scarier offensive team.
I don't blame them for trying to go to man given our scoring barrage against the zone, but the Oregon tactic I do question a bit was that they didn't try to press more in the last three minutes when they had already switched to man. That two-minute possession where Marta twice ran down the clock, we twice missed, and we twice got the o-board, was a textbook example of when a defense needs to press and be aggressive even if it risks a foul. They tried it once unsuccessfully around the 9 minute mark in the fourth and Marta handled the trap brilliantly, and then they seemed to back away from it. I don't understand why they just sat and let Marta run the time off the clock when they still, theoretically, could have gotten back into it, esp. since we're not the best free throw shooting team.
Also, our screens were amazing this game. Johnson was fantastic at getting McPhee open, and on a few occasions Williams dribbled into traffic and then passed out for a nifty inside outside three pointer. We really got to see the Princeton working in the second half, especially late when they went to man. Johnson really is a glue player, and because we didn't need much scoring from our bigs inside, every other aspect of her game has been top notch lately.
Also: agreed about our ball control and fewer turnovers. Part of that, I think, is that once they went to man we didn't need to try to pass inside as much. I think our achilles heel has been trying to get the ball inside a zone, and it's where we commit so many of our turnovers. We didn't see that as much in the second half, because we either dribbled in and then passed out, set a screen to get space inside, or shot a three. I'm not sure how to find out, but I suspect we had only a few layups in the second half because we stopped trying to go inside after they smothered Johnson and Smith with their zone early on. They also weren't terribly aggressive in their defense, which also helped. I'm not sure if they were tired or flustered or we just wanted it more, but in the fourth quarter they were pretty flaccid in pressuring the ball handler.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-05-2018
(02-05-2018, 08:03 AM)2006alum link Wrote:Also, our screens were amazing this game. Johnson was fantastic at getting McPhee open, and on a few occasions Williams dribbled into traffic and then passed out for a nifty inside outside three pointer. We really got to see the Princeton working in the second half, especially late when they went to man. Johnson really is a glue player, and because we didn't need much scoring from our bigs inside, every other aspect of her game has been top notch lately.Great point, 2006. And what two players were best at setting and then utilizing the screens? Our two seniors. Screens are very very tricky and take a lot of timing and experience to make them work properly. They are a little like timing patterns in football when the pass has to be thrown before the receiver is looking--the screener and the moving player have to be perfectly in sync. We first started using a lot of screens when Kaylee and Britt were freshmen--right after Chiney graduated and we abandoned the triangle. Kaylee got repeatedly called for moving screens. Back then it was Amber and Lili she was setting the screens for. The inability to make our screens work well really cost us those two losses to Chattanooga and Tennessee. But four years of practice together and they worked perfectly, and the screen right there at the elbow is one of the standard options in the Princeton.Â
Did we see Smith setting screens? I seem to remember one but can't be sure. Let's hope Fingall and Dodson prove equally adept as Kaylee. Methinks Williams is going to score a few hundred points off of screens during her career.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 81alum - 02-05-2018
(02-05-2018, 08:03 AM)2006alum link Wrote:Also, our screens were amazing this game. Johnson was fantastic at getting McPhee open, and on a few occasions Williams dribbled into traffic and then passed out for a nifty inside outside three pointer. We really got to see the Princeton working in the second half, especially late when they went to man. Johnson really is a glue player, and because we didn't need much scoring from our bigs inside, every other aspect of her game has been top notch lately.Great point, 2006. And what two players were best at setting and then utilizing the screens? Our two seniors. Screens are very very tricky and take a lot of timing and experience to make them work properly. They are a little like timing patterns in football when the pass has to be thrown before the receiver is looking--the screener and the moving player have to be perfectly in sync. We first started using a lot of screens when Kaylee and Britt were freshmen--right after Chiney graduated and we abandoned the triangle. Kaylee got repeatedly called for moving screens. Back then it was Amber and Lili she was setting the screens for. The inability to make our screens work well really cost us those two losses to Chattanooga and Tennessee. But four years of practice together and they worked perfectly, and the screen right there at the elbow is one of the standard options in the Princeton.Â
Did we see Smith setting screens? I seem to remember one but can't be sure. Let's hope Fingall and Dodson prove equally adept as Kaylee. Methinks Williams is going to score a few hundred points off of screens during her career.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 2006alum - 02-05-2018
I distinctly remember that Smith set one on either McPhee's second or third three. It actually wasn't perfectly executed but it was enough and McThree was hot by then so no stopping her. It's hard to tell from a distance, but I suspect Sniezek deserves a lot of credit for calling these plays. McPhee said as much afterwards, and I'm guessing it's why Tara thinks so highly of her.
And you're totally right about the time it takes to get them right. I remember Johnson getting called so often for moving screens her sophomore and even junior year. This year she's been rock solid (quite literally!). I know I can remember Fingall being effective at it at points this season. I don't remember Dodson doing it but she's usually in the low post for most of our sets.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - 2006alum - 02-05-2018
I distinctly remember that Smith set one on either McPhee's second or third three. It actually wasn't perfectly executed but it was enough and McThree was hot by then so no stopping her. It's hard to tell from a distance, but I suspect Sniezek deserves a lot of credit for calling these plays. McPhee said as much afterwards, and I'm guessing it's why Tara thinks so highly of her.
And you're totally right about the time it takes to get them right. I remember Johnson getting called so often for moving screens her sophomore and even junior year. This year she's been rock solid (quite literally!). I know I can remember Fingall being effective at it at points this season. I don't remember Dodson doing it but she's usually in the low post for most of our sets.
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BobK - 02-05-2018
Great posts. Wow I can only add that I suspect it took awhile for the players to believe just like us fans even just 2 weeks ago
Now that Im thrilled I made plane and hotel reservations for Seattle 5 months ago who here is going to the tournament.
Plus we now have a good chance of hosting the first two rounds of the NCAA
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - BobK - 02-05-2018
Great posts. Wow I can only add that I suspect it took awhile for the players to believe just like us fans even just 2 weeks ago
Now that Im thrilled I made plane and hotel reservations for Seattle 5 months ago who here is going to the tournament.
Plus we now have a good chance of hosting the first two rounds of the NCAA
Re: WBB: Stanford 78 Oregon 65, McPhee with 31 in the 2nd half - qwerty49 - 02-05-2018
(02-05-2018, 08:03 AM)2006alum link Wrote:the Oregon tactic I do question a bit was that they didn't try to press more in the last three minutes when they had already switched to man. That two-minute possession where Marta twice ran down the clock, we twice missed, and we twice got the o-board, was a textbook example of when a defense needs to press and be aggressive even if it risks a foul. They tried it once unsuccessfully around the 9 minute mark in the fourth and Marta handled the trap brilliantly, and then they seemed to back away from it.
Marta pretty much did a 180 dribbling out and through that trap. I was thinking she was in trouble and just like that she was clear. That was amazing -- I don't think I'd seen any ball handler do that move.