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RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - 81alum - 09-01-2019

(08-31-2019, 01:56 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: After "holding", my least favorite words while sitting here on the sunny side: "Full media timeout".

+1Each full media timeout took another four ounces of perspiration and added .0001% chance of developing melanoma.

(08-31-2019, 02:47 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I thought targeting was reviewable and could be called by the replay officials after the factZ. Are they asleep at the monitors?

By the way, I now know what it’s like to have 20,000 people stuffed in the concourse.  Attendance is better than it looks on TV.

BC

I have never seen the concourse that full.  Practically all the NW fans were packed into their end of the concourse, so tightly that it was difficult to walk.  As I elbowed my way through I heard a lot of grumbling, and fans trying to get a peak at the game every other down or so. The monitors a little ways down were crowded--now that is a story when people forgo watching on TV to go to the game, but wind up watching on monitors at the game! I love daytime games, but given the new stadium I think night games early season and day games late season would be my preference, until/unless I can afford shady side tickets.  But yes, I think on the sunny side many more people went to the concourse than stayed in their seats--and stayed on the concourse the majority of the time.  Probably good for the concessions.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - Mick - 09-01-2019

(08-31-2019, 02:32 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Surprised it wasn’t a targeting and ejection.

BC

Toner with the 51-yarder to end the half.  Remind me again why we punted from the 34?

BC

The ref on the video and the announcers (one was Brock Huard) both were extremely surprised it wasn't immediately reviewed and cited as a targeting call.

(08-31-2019, 08:32 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Here is the game sealing and spread-clinching play.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordFball/status/1167943684228124679?s=20[/tweet]

BC

I'd hate to be Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern OL, #73) this morning.  He got there first and tried to pick up the fumble.  Slipped through his hands.  I'm guessing he is not going to have a pleasant week of practice.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - washingtonismoney - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 07:03 AM)Mick Wrote: I'd hate to be Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern OL, #73) this morning.  He got there first and tried to pick up the fumble.  Slipped through his hands.  I'm guessing he is not going to have a pleasant week of practice.

The TD was marginally better for NW's chances than the safety. A safety means a kickoff to Stanford, which runs out the clock.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - winflop - 09-01-2019

Really glad we won but feel like it was a pyrrhic victory with the injuries to Costello and especially Little who I worry is done for the season. Praying it's just a bad sprain but think it's likelier to be a ligament tear. Pretty sure Costello will be in concussion protocol which means he's almost certain to miss U$C. Let's hope he's back for UCF.

I think the final score is pretty representative of the game but it was far tighter than it should have been.

3 stars of the game:
- Cam Scarlett. He looks like a completely different player. It's clear he REALLY worked on his footwork and agility in the offseason. His cuts in the hole were night & day different from last year, and he looks like he dropped 10-20 lbs. Still doesn't have breakaway speed but I can only remember two plays where he was caught from behind going off-tackle compared to last year when that happened too often
- ILBs, especially Ricky Miezan. My biggest area of concern going into this season and they all played well. Miezan stood out a little bit but credit to the entire position group.
- Casey Toohil. I'm not sure I have enough fingers to count how many times he was in the offensive backfield or stuffing an off-tackle run

3 goats of the game:
- B1G refs. Nuff said
- Davis Mills. Needs to figure out how to run RPO without fumbling the ball untouched by the defense. Needs to figure it out really fast. Maybe RPO needs to be removed from the U$C gameplan
- ShawVita. Punting from the NU 34 overrides all of the good they did. Toner clearly has the leg to hit from well beyond 50 yards and is the most accurate kicker in school history. KICK THE DAMN FG. Make that FG and the complexion of the end of the game changes considerably with NU needing a TD not just an FG. I'm so sick of this crap and I will continue to boo loudly and vociferously. If you don't trust your kicker to try a 50-yarder then you need to recruit/develop a new kicker. Instead, he asked a rookie punter to pin NU deep and ended up with a net 14 kick. ???

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - BostonCard - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 07:35 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote: 
(09-01-2019, 07:03 AM)Mick Wrote: I'd hate to be Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern OL, #73) this morning.  He got there first and tried to pick up the fumble.  Slipped through his hands.  I'm guessing he is not going to have a pleasant week of practice.

 The TD was marginally better for NW's chances than the safety. A safety means a kickoff to Stanford, which runs out the clock.

I’d still hate to be him.  The only reason he was in position to recover the fumble is because Toohill blew by him quicker than a BART turnstile, and he spent most of the play chasing the guy he was supposed to have blocked. Mostly, it was a great play by Toohill, but still, I’m sure that play will give him nightmares. Also 66 made his best impression of garden topiary as Fox rushed by him, which might have been irrelevant but for the fact that Fox recovered the fumble. Reviewing the play, the blocking was so piss poor that I wondered whether it was meant to have been a screen.  But alas, no, the running back was busy double teaming our defensive end, and upfield of no less than three offensive linemen who were looking in on two Stanford rushers bearing down on the QB.  Great play by Toohill and Fox, and shameful execution by the Northwestern line. BC

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - Mick - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 07:35 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote: 
(09-01-2019, 07:03 AM)Mick Wrote: I'd hate to be Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern OL, #73) this morning.  He got there first and tried to pick up the fumble.  Slipped through his hands.  I'm guessing he is not going to have a pleasant week of practice.

 The TD was marginally better for NW's chances than the safety. A safety means a kickoff to Stanford, which runs out the clock.

Allow me to rephrase.  What are the odds that Gunnar's position coach and head coach are delighted with his fumble recovery attempt?

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - Hurlburt88 - 09-01-2019

Just an FYI from the opponent's attrition, I read last last night that NU's 2nd QB, TJ Green, was taken to the hospital during the game and they were considering surgery.

leftcoast - Leftcoast - 09-01-2019

“<span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Practically all the NW fans were packed into their end of the concourse, so tightly that it was difficult to walk. ”<span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;"> <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Yup, late in the second quarter there were  60 YARDS of Northwestern fans who had given up and were sitting with their backs against the concrete wall and visibly wilting like a grape pop sickle dropped on summer asphalt.  <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">They looked miserable.    If you are still nostalgic for early season 1:00 starts this game may have cured you.

RE: leftcoast - Mick - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 08:58 AM)Leftcoast Wrote: “<span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Practically all the NW fans were packed into their end of the concourse, so tightly that it was difficult to walk. ”<span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;"> <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Yup, late in the second quarter there were  60 YARDS of Northwestern fans who had given up and were sitting with their backs against the concrete wall and visibly wilting like a grape pop sickle dropped on summer asphalt.  <span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; float: none;">They looked miserable.    If you are still nostalgic for early season 1:00 starts this game may have cured you.

Very little humidity, temp around 88 (?).  And yet, very uncomfortable to be in the stands.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - JohnR34231 - 09-01-2019

DAVIS MILLS I think his biggest accomplishment in this game was getting through a half without injury.I recall the first game he came back from a knee injury in HS he was something like 5-18 passing (against Dylan McCaffrey's team). He then proceeded to lead his team to the state championship game.If Costello can't go next week hopefully he will show similar improvement.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - Goose - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 08:09 AM)winflop Wrote:   stars of the game:
- Cam Scarlett. He looks like a completely different player. It's clear he REALLY worked on his footwork and agility in the offseason. His cuts in the hole were night & day different from last year, and he looks like he dropped 10-20 lbs. Still doesn't have breakaway speed but I can only remember two plays where he was caught from behind going off-tackle compared to last year when that happened too often

FWIW, the roster list him at exactly the same 216 lbs as last year. I have always thought he was a good back. In this game they ran plays better suited to his skill set, and for sure the OL blocked better. That said, Scarlett himself has said he worked hard on agility and quick cuts over the off season. Good to see it has "taken" a bit. I am sure we will see the other running backs play also, but Scarlett is at least adequate and possibly more. He is a very good receiver out of the backfield, and also a good pass blocker. While not Love speed wise, he has recovered a lot of speed compared to his sophomore year.

Quote:  goats of the game: 
- Davis Mills. Needs to figure out how to run RPO without fumbling the ball untouched by the defense. Needs to figure it out really fast. Maybe RPO needs to be removed from the U$C gameplan

It should be removed now and for as long as we don't have a QB that is a real runner. KJ can make yards on the ground, but only when he totally surprises the defense with the run. The RPO doesn't do that. Mills used to be a runner, but right now, he is too fragile, it isn't worth the risk. Normal fake handoffs will do just fine. With Hogan, the RPO was credible. With these guys, it isn't, and the risk of a bad mesh is too high to even consider it.

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- ShawVita. Punting from the NU 34 overrides all of the good they did. Toner clearly has the leg to hit from well beyond 50 yards and is the most accurate kicker in school history. KICK THE DAMN FG. Make that FG and the complexion of the end of the game changes considerably with NU needing a TD not just an FG. I'm so sick of this crap and I will continue to boo loudly and vociferously. If you don't trust your kicker to try a 50-yarder then you need to recruit/develop a new kicker. Instead, he asked a rookie punter to pin NU deep and ended up with a net 14 kick. ???

I totally agree that it is hard to support this call. We know that Toner can kick a 50 yarder. We also know that we are giving up at worst about 20 yards by trying it. In the event, we gained only 14 yards by punting. Even if it is downed at the 10 we gain 24 yards. So, I don't get it. Fortunately, it didn't cost us the game, or anything close to it, but I still believe it was an error.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - UltimateCard - 09-01-2019

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(09-01-2019, 08:58 AM)Leftcoast Wrote: <p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">“<span style="caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", "droid sans", sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; 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text-size-adjust: 100%; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Yup, late in the second quarter there were  60 YARDS of Northwestern fans who had given up and were sitting with their backs against the concrete wall and visibly wilting like a grape pop sickle dropped on summer asphalt. <p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"> <p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; 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<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"> My son is a senior at Northwestern. At halftime, we went to find one of his friends in their corner of the stadium. As we were waiting in line to refill our water bottles, a Northwestern fan fainted (fortunately, stadium security personnel were right there). Friend said that EMT had attended to 3 people in the stands in the first half. When we returned to our seats, someone nearby said they had a thermometer that read 96 degrees. So yes, the wok was cooking!

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - martyup - 09-01-2019

How do they expect to sell tickets to day games with this situation?  Rather than upgrade the sound system, or in addition to it, they should have made attempts to mitigate the wok effect. BTW, how was the new sound system?  I have yet to hear any feedback on it.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - French Rage - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 11:22 AM)martyup Wrote: BTW, how was the new sound system?  I have yet to hear any feedback on it.

Because our ears are still ringing.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - CompSci87 - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 11:22 AM)martyup Wrote: How do they expect to sell tickets to day games with this situation?  Rather than upgrade the sound system, or in addition to it, they should have made attempts to mitigate the wok effect. BTW, how was the new sound system?  I have yet to hear any feedback on it.

At my seat it was fine. But the old system was fine there too. The only difference I noticed was that the piped in music wasn't at such earsplitting volume as last year. Obviously they could have turned it down last year, so it's hard to credit the new sound system for that change.

RE: Next starts now (NW game thread) - stupac2 - 09-01-2019

(09-01-2019, 07:35 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote: 
(09-01-2019, 07:03 AM)Mick Wrote: I'd hate to be Gunnar Vogel (Northwestern OL, #73) this morning.  He got there first and tried to pick up the fumble.  Slipped through his hands.  I'm guessing he is not going to have a pleasant week of practice.

 The TD was marginally better for NW's chances than the safety. A safety means a kickoff to Stanford, which runs out the clock.

Not that it means much, but I think the TD was worse because you can onside a safety kick. If they recover that they only need a miracle TD to win, instead of two scores in ~20 seconds. On the Wok, after leaving at halftime my kid was admiring the emergency vehicles and a firefighter told us it had been a busy day. He actually had to boot my kid out of the firetruck to go deal with something or other. I have to say the idea of a Coliseum-style (Roman, not Oakland/USC) removable awning makes so much sense to me. A million times more useful than the ribbon board and HD sound...