NCAA Championship Women’s Soccer Wins National Championship!

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RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - M T - 12-09-2019

(12-08-2019, 09:13 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote: ...I literally could not watch it (I don't have ESPNU) and there's no radio coverage, ....

Tell Stanford Athletic Department that you feel lied to.

The game was on KZSU, which is on the air & on the net, without a paywall.
But not mentioned by a different Stanford entity....

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - 2006alum - 12-09-2019

All Right Now! Sounds like a very deserved title after UNC forced us away from our A game and took it to PKs. And our second national championship of the day - incredible! I wonder how many of Stanford 125 championships have come with multiple teams winning on the same day? I feel like at least 2 of our 6 from last season happened on the same day?

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - ca245 - 12-09-2019

I thought the NCAA had a policy of broadcasting all of the NCAA championships for free on some platform. I can't remember where I heard this, but it's seemed to hold up consistently every time I've looked for a championship match up. I was surprised this wasn't streamed on NCAA.com and that I was blocked from watching using my DirectTV account. Luckily I was able to watch on my Sling TV account, but still, surprised the NCAA doesn't do more to make sure the championships are readily available to help build the fan base.
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It may apply to championships where a commercial broadcaster does not buy up the rights. So, the MWP finals and semis were streamed for free. In WVB, matches that were not picked up by a network (ESPNU, ACC, PAC-12, LHN) were also streamed for free. Specifically, our 1st round match against Denver was on PAC-12 and therefore not streamed for free but out 2nd round match against CP was not picked up by PAC-12 and was streamed for free.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - oldalum - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:24 AM)Viking_Guy Wrote: Apparently what people thought was a UCLA soccer parent was behind the goal ragging on Meyers all game long (people were thinking it might have actually been Fishel's dad.) And after she gave up a pretty soft goal, it only escalated.
What was not shown was that apparently he tried to go into the backstage area at Avaya to continue to, ah, remonstrate. With more profanity involved.

Isn't there a pregame announcement about spectator sportsmanship? Just for show, no enforcement? Profanity directed at a player certainly is out of line, and riding a player probably crosses the line too. Love Katie's "zip-it" gesture.

Jane Campbell and Andrew Thomas have fire. Glad our current women's soccer GK has fire. Gotta have it. The look on the UNC GK's face before Kiki's PK said, "I'm going to have to be very lucky to save this, and I'm probably not going to be lucky."

Agree that the style of officiating favored UNC. Any physical challenge was ok as long as it wasn't a complete backside or frontside wipeout. And fouls by UNC just after our player has passed the ball apparently are not fouls.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 10:45 AM)oldalum Wrote: The look on the UNC GK's face before Kiki's PK said, "I'm going to have to be very lucky to save this, and I'm probably not going to be lucky."

Yup, I knew we were going to win when I saw it. She looked scared to be in the goal.

BC

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - ca245 - 12-09-2019

Quote:Yup, I knew we were going to win when I saw it. She looked scared to be in the goal.

BC

But give her credit for having the nerve to shoot her PK (UNC's third one, IIRC) straight down the middle. They say that the one place the goalie won't be in a PK is right in the middle of the goal, but not many players dare to shoot down the middle because if the goalie stands pat it is an easy safe and the shooter looks silly.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - cardcrimson - 12-09-2019

Compare that to Katie Meyer's intensity in goal.

Love the whining about Katie's sportsmanship from UCLA, especially Mia Fishel. Guess they missed Kaiya McCullough's hard take down of Madison Haley earlier in the game. After getting called for a foul, she jumped up and down, screamed at the ref, kicked the ball away in disgust, screamed and gestured at the ref again.

If the rumors are true that UCLA players and Fishel's dad were heckling Meyer incessantly, even better for Katie.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:15 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: If the rumors are true that UCLA players and Fishel's dad were heckling Meyer incessantly, even better for Katie.

As they say, none of this would have mattered if Fishel had made the damned kick.

BC

Sakibomb25 - Sakibomb25 - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 10:46 AM)BostonCard Wrote:
(12-09-2019, 10:45 AM)oldalum Wrote: The look on the UNC GK's face before Kiki's PK said, "I'm going to have to be very lucky to save this, and I'm probably not going to be lucky."

Yup, I knew we were going to win when I saw it. She looked scared to be in the goal.

BC

I don’t think she looked scared to be in goal - she was just the complete opposite of Meyer... stone cold and emotionless.

Glad we beat UNC and their more physical brand of soccer. Seems to be an east coast mentality, as basketball seems to be the same way.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - Spiny_Norman - 12-09-2019

Even sweeter when you can beat UNC for the title. I think the Tar Heels cost Stanford the NC last year when they injured Tierna Davidson in the regular season game at Cagan. She did not play the rest of the season.

RE: Sakibomb25 - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 01:30 PM)SakiBomb25 Wrote: I don’t think she looked scared to be in goal - she was just the complete opposite of Meyer... stone cold and emotionless.

Glad we beat UNC and their more physical brand of soccer. Seems to be an east coast mentality, as basketball seems to be the same way.

I may well be projecting. But to me this is the look of resignation and defeat.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/espnW/status/1203895596249165824?s=20[/tweet]

BC

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - oldalum - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 01:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I think the Tar Heels cost Stanford the NC last year when they injured Tierna Davidson in the regular season game at Cagan.

And don't forget the 2 years they took from Jaye Boissiere when they injured her in a preconference game. It's a predictable product of how they play and who they recruit to play that way. Which is why I think we should never schedule them, only play them in the NCAA tournament.

It just occurred to me that Jaye and Kiki are alike in two distinctive ways: I think they are/were the shortest player on their teams; and they both made a national-championship-winning goal.
That may not be completely a coincidence: perhaps the determination and moxie you need to succeed as a diminutive player helped them come through in the big moment.

Does this mean we should recruit more short players?? ;-)

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - Spiny_Norman - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 02:01 PM)oldalum Wrote:
(12-09-2019, 01:41 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I think the Tar Heels cost Stanford the NC last year when they injured Tierna Davidson in the regular season game at Cagan.
And don't forget the 2 years they took from Jaye Boissiere when they injured her in a preconference game. It's a predictable product of how they play and who they recruit to play that way. Which is why I think we should never schedule them, only play them in the NCAA tournament.

It just occurred to me that Jaye and Kiki are alike in two distinctive ways: I think they are/were the shortest player on their teams; and they both made a national-championship-winning goal.
That may not be completely a coincidence: perhaps the determination and moxie you need to succeed as a diminutive player helped them come through in the big moment.

Does this mean we should recruit more short players?? ;-)

I was a big fan of Cami Levin too, also on the small side. She helped Stanford win their first NC in 2011.

RE: Sakibomb25 - Farm93 - 12-09-2019

UNC's keeper I think was trying to stay cool and calm since that is key to great keeping. However, her face and body language was more in the realm of...
"This is hopeless. Eventually we will lose."

I am sure that was NOT the message she was going for, but since PKs have so much gamesmanship and psychology I am not sure it was the best look for her.

Meyer was over the top with her fun, carefree, I will win this for us, approach. She flew over to the Stanford students. She jumped and grabbed both crossbars. It just felt like she was reminding everyone that this PK-thingy will be a lot of fun since she will win this for us. That probably was not the best for staying focused in the moment as a keeper, but it created such a level of confidence in the venue.

For most of the season the team could have had almost any student with even a few years of youth soccer experience at keeper and still easily won those games, which likely led UCLA to hope she was an untested and weak link. It is really great for her, and the program, to be able show that the keeper was pretty good too.

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - oldalum - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 02:26 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I was a big fan of Cami Levin too, also on the small side. She helped Stanford win their first NC in 2011.

me too. And she assisted on the national championship-winning goal, which was scored by another short player, Teresa Noyola!

I think we've stumbled onto something here!

RE: Anyone going to Women’s Soccer College Cup? - cardcrimson - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 03:05 PM)oldalum Wrote:
(12-09-2019, 02:26 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I was a big fan of Cami Levin too, also on the small side. She helped Stanford win their first NC in 2011.

me too. And she assisted on the national championship-winning goal, which was scored by another short player, Teresa Noyola!

I think we've stumbled onto something here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfyS-S-IJs

Griffins78 - Griffins78 - 12-09-2019

Meyer went the right direction most of the time and almost blocked several PKs. The UNC goalie was beat badly almost every time.

RE: Griffins78 - 81alum - 12-10-2019

(12-09-2019, 11:22 PM)Griffins78 Wrote: Meyer went the right direction most of the time and almost blocked several PKs. The UNC goalie was beat badly almost every time.

There was the one where Meyer went to her left and went too far since the ball came in behind her--she got a hand on it but could not stop it. And there was the kick from the UNC goalie that went high and straight, Meyer could only have stopped it if she did not move right or left.

I wondered about those two and what it says about the strategy. If goalies always guess and move right or left, then why not kick the ball right down the middle? That is sort of what happened to Meyer twice.

RE: Griffins78 - ColoradoTree - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 06:43 AM)81alum Wrote:
(12-09-2019, 11:22 PM)Griffins78 Wrote: Meyer went the right direction most of the time and almost blocked several PKs. The UNC goalie was beat badly almost every time.
There was the one where Meyer went to her left and went too far since the ball came in behind her--she got a hand on it but could not stop it. And there was the kick from the UNC goalie that went high and straight, Meyer could only have stopped it if she did not move right or left.

I wondered about those two and what it says about the strategy. If goalies always guess and move right or left, then why not kick the ball right down the middle? That is sort of what happened to Meyer twice.

That's the theory behind the Panenka (the name for the kick down the middle of the goal). It's cheeky, but it plays the odds. Of course, the downside is that they save it and you look pretty foolish (and if the ball doesn't go dead center, you still risk the goalie being able to kick the ball clear, or even get a hand on it if they didn't fully commit to a dive to the left or right). If you kick it hard enough to the left or right in a standard penalty, even if the goalie guesses the right way, it can still go through their fingers.

Sometimes it goes great and you look clever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAnsXBLLa4s

Sometimes it blows up in your face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMfrnTLonIM

Of course, the goalies aren't just guessing, but reading your body language and (at the professional level) they have some knowledge of common penalty takers' tendencies, so you have your suspicions as a keeper before the kick, and the way they set up and approach might or might not change what you decide to do. The fact that Meyer was mostly right is a testament to her skills at reading the opposing players, and a knock on the kickers for perhaps telegraphing what they were going to do.

RE: Women’s Soccer Wins National Championship! - oldalum - 12-10-2019

it looked to me like the UNC player did close to the same thing that Kennedy did the kick before: set up off to the left, circle around to almost vertical before approaching the ball to make it look like she's going left, and then go right. But Kennedy did it much better than the UNC player, Meyer wasn't fooled, and the kick was weak. Apparently she was a freshman who had played only about 100 minutes all season, so some UNC fans' questioning of having her take such a pressure-packed shot, but she must have done well on PKs in practice at least. Hopefully she will recover and be stronger for it, like our freshman football field goal kicker did who missed the game-winning field goal at the end of our bowl game when Andrew Luck was a senior.