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RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - winflop - 12-10-2021

(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 01:32 PM)winflop Wrote:  Do I expect that every QB recruit gets drafted? Of course not. But 25% is not a number that screams success to me. Success would be 50% or higher.

Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - BostonCard - 12-10-2021

(12-10-2021, 01:03 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 01:32 PM)winflop Wrote:  Do I expect that every QB recruit gets drafted? Of course not. But 25% is not a number that screams success to me. Success would be 50% or higher.

Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

In 2021, ten quarterbacks total were drafted, of which, I think 8 were from Power five schools. There are 65 P5 schools, so that roughly 1 in 8 P5 QBs were drafted.  If you figure the average college starting tenure is probably two years, then it figures that roughly 1 in 4 P5 starting QBs are drafted.

BV

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - DC 86 - 12-10-2021

(12-10-2021, 09:58 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 01:03 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 01:32 PM)winflop Wrote:  Do I expect that every QB recruit gets drafted? Of course not. But 25% is not a number that screams success to me. Success would be 50% or higher.

Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

In 2021, ten quarterbacks total were drafted, of which, I think 8 were from Power five schools. There are 65 P5 schools, so that roughly 1 in 8 P5 QBs were drafted.  If you figure the average college starting tenure is probably two years, then it figures that roughly 1 in 4 P5 starting QBs are drafted.

BV

Quarterbacks drafted since 2015 (Tavita became QB coach in the 2014 season):

Stanford 2 (Hogan, Mills)
Notre Dame 2 (Kizer, Book)
California 2 (Goff, Webb)
Oregon 2 (Mariota, Herbert)
Oregon State 2 (Mannion, Luton)
USC 2 (Kessler, Darnold)
UCLA 2 (Hundley, Rosen)
WSU 2 (Falk, Minshew)
Washington 1 (Eason)
Arizona 0
Arizona State 0
Colorado 0
Utah 0

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - winflop - 12-10-2021

(12-10-2021, 10:50 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 09:58 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 01:03 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 01:32 PM)winflop Wrote:  Do I expect that every QB recruit gets drafted? Of course not. But 25% is not a number that screams success to me. Success would be 50% or higher.

Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

In 2021, ten quarterbacks total were drafted, of which, I think 8 were from Power five schools. There are 65 P5 schools, so that roughly 1 in 8 P5 QBs were drafted.  If you figure the average college starting tenure is probably two years, then it figures that roughly 1 in 4 P5 starting QBs are drafted.

BV

Quarterbacks drafted since 2015 (Tavita became QB coach in the 2014 season):

Stanford 2 (Hogan, Mills)
Notre Dame 2 (Kizer, Book)
California 2 (Goff, Webb)
Oregon 2 (Mariota, Herbert)
Oregon State 2 (Mannion, Luton)
USC 2 (Kessler, Darnold)
UCLA 2 (Hundley, Rosen)
WSU 2 (Falk, Minshew)
Washington 1 (Eason)
Arizona 0
Arizona State 0
Colorado 0
Utah 0

Interesting. I guess I'm more focused on all the guys ShawVita decided should start instead of Hogan & Mills (and Costello who I'm not blaming them for). Don't have the time to do it but I wonder what percentage of games were started by those QBs at each school.

I don't hold out much hope that Shaw's going to make any changes on his offensive staff, but I really hope he replaces the majority of his defensive staff

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - JohnR34231 - 12-11-2021

(12-10-2021, 11:16 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 10:50 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 09:58 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 01:03 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

In 2021, ten quarterbacks total were drafted, of which, I think 8 were from Power five schools. There are 65 P5 schools, so that roughly 1 in 8 P5 QBs were drafted.  If you figure the average college starting tenure is probably two years, then it figures that roughly 1 in 4 P5 starting QBs are drafted.

BV

Quarterbacks drafted since 2015 (Tavita became QB coach in the 2014 season):

Stanford 2 (Hogan, Mills)
Notre Dame 2 (Kizer, Book)
California 2 (Goff, Webb)
Oregon 2 (Mariota, Herbert)
Oregon State 2 (Mannion, Luton)
USC 2 (Kessler, Darnold)
UCLA 2 (Hundley, Rosen)
WSU 2 (Falk, Minshew)
Washington 1 (Eason)
Arizona 0
Arizona State 0
Colorado 0
Utah 0

Interesting. I guess I'm more focused on all the guys ShawVita decided should start instead of Hogan & Mills (and Costello who I'm not blaming them for). Don't have the time to do it but I wonder what percentage of games were started by those QBs at each school.

I don't hold out much hope that Shaw's going to make any changes on his offensive staff, but I really hope he replaces the majority of his defensive staff

Well, Mills spent the majority of his career on the injury list. When he was healthy and didn't start it was because Costello was ahead of him.

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - gailtate - 12-11-2021

(12-10-2021, 11:16 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 10:50 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 09:58 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(12-10-2021, 01:03 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-08-2021, 04:57 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  Are you saying the bar is for 50% (minimum) of recruited scholarship quarterbacks to ultimately be drafted?

More than 25% of STARTING QBs absolutely

And that includes guys who they chose to start & ultimately benched like Christ, Nunes, and West

In 2021, ten quarterbacks total were drafted, of which, I think 8 were from Power five schools. There are 65 P5 schools, so that roughly 1 in 8 P5 QBs were drafted.  If you figure the average college starting tenure is probably two years, then it figures that roughly 1 in 4 P5 starting QBs are drafted.

BV

Quarterbacks drafted since 2015 (Tavita became QB coach in the 2014 season):

Stanford 2 (Hogan, Mills)
Notre Dame 2 (Kizer, Book)
California 2 (Goff, Webb)
Oregon 2 (Mariota, Herbert)
Oregon State 2 (Mannion, Luton)
USC 2 (Kessler, Darnold)
UCLA 2 (Hundley, Rosen)
WSU 2 (Falk, Minshew)
Washington 1 (Eason)
Arizona 0
Arizona State 0
Colorado 0
Utah 0

Interesting. I guess I'm more focused on all the guys ShawVita decided should start instead of Hogan & Mills (and Costello who I'm not blaming them for). Don't have the time to do it but I wonder what percentage of games were started by those QBs at each school.

I don't hold out much hope that Shaw's going to make any changes on his offensive staff, but I really hope he replaces the majority of his defensive staff

Why change anything when you see perfection?  Keep telling yourself, "It's the execution, stupid."

RE: Stanford Football 2021 Post-Mortem Thread - VB Card - 12-19-2021

The Daily's take on the season: 

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2021/12/18/football-learned-in-2021/