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Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - 81alum - 10-12-2016

Thanks for the great links on Jerome.  She sounds articulate and intelligent--as all our players do. Reminds me a little of McPhee in her build and the way she moves--she has both an outside midrange shot and fluid cuts to the basket, and can definitely muscle the ball up in traffic. 

All the FIBA games are available to watch still, so we can watch a number of her games.  She wears No. 11.  I am going to take my time viewing these games. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJD9Sc3k3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq6OqgqJjhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2hnH5Kk6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFBJ9UsM6Pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGz6q_hye40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TztF3s2SRSQ

If you head to 14:50 in to the US/Canada gold medal game, you will see Jerome take the ball at the top of the three point line, put the ball on the floor and go around Sydney Cooks (ESPN #5) on the way to a layup + 1.  That play pretty well establishes that she is quick enough to beat a top ten player.

In her 5 games, Jerome shot 48.5%, was 0/10 from three point range, averaged about 16 points a game in 25 minutes, grabbing 9.6 rebounds per game, and a couple of assists and a couple of turnovers a game.  Her +/- was about +20 until Canada played the US in the finals, where it fell to -33.  Still, she did manage 12 points and 8 rebounds against the US team in 26 minutes of play, and she was playing against kids who were mostly a year older.  She certainly looks to me like a promising young player who will probably continue to develop this year and next summer before arriving on the Farm.

For what it is worth, Jerome was the true star of the Canada team, leading the team in efficiency, points, and rebounds.  Brewer was strong too but was second in points.  Given that Jerome was doing this at a younger age...she may have a lot of upside potential.

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - 81alum - 10-12-2016

As for Dodson, there is this video posted of her discussing her choices and plans:
https://passthaball.com/2016/08/03/recruiting-with-maya-dodson/

Her priorities are education, helping to win championships, and fitting in.  It is between Tennessee, Stanford, and N otre Dame.  She hopes to decide no later than November, after her visits.  As Bob said, the N otre Dame visit is coming up.

I am so glad we beat N otre Dame last year!  And I think it is pretty obvious we need her and can immediately use her talent if she comes.  Then there is her emphasis on education....and the fact that she is friends with Nadia Fingall.  Overall, I like our chances.  But N otre Dame has been tough recruiting competition in the past, so we shall have to wait and see.  If she does choose us...we will have pulled off two outstanding recruiting classes in a row, and the future gets bright.  If not, we have still done well, although I will worry about having enough bigs.

Question to Bob and other knowledgeable folk:  is there any significance to the order of visits? 

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - TheFarm07 - 10-13-2016

(10-12-2016, 10:27 PM)81alum link Wrote:As for Dodson, there is this video posted of her discussing her choices and plans:
https://passthaball.com/2016/08/03/recruiting-with-maya-dodson/

Her priorities are education, helping to win championships, and fitting in.  It is between Tennessee, Stanford, and N otre Dame.  She hopes to decide no later than November, after her visits.  As Bob said, the N otre Dame visit is coming up.

I am so glad we beat N otre Dame last year!  And I think it is pretty obvious we need her and can immediately use her talent if she comes.  Then there is her emphasis on education....and the fact that she is friends with Nadia Fingall.  Overall, I like our chances.  But N otre Dame has been tough recruiting competition in the past, so we shall have to wait and see.  If she does choose us...we will have pulled off two outstanding recruiting classes in a row, and the future gets bright.  If not, we have still done well, although I will worry about having enough bigs.

Question to Bob and other knowledgeable folk:  is there any significance to the order of visits?

Hopefully the Irish won't beat us on another recruit. We lost Erin Boley, Brianna Turner and Skylar Diggins all to McGraw in the last few years, that I can recall off the top of my head.

I hope Dodson's friendship with Fingall, and her emphasis on education will put us over the top for her.

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - 81alum - 10-13-2016

(10-13-2016, 01:19 AM)TheFarm07 link Wrote:Hopefully the Irish won't beat us on another recruit. We lost Erin Boley, Brianna Turner and Skylar Diggins all to McGraw in the last few years, that I can recall off the top of my head.
Do we know if those three all made it through admissions?  And did those three all take official visits to Stanford late in the cycle?  I had heard mixed things about one of those three, for example.  Kids don't normally want to advertise an admissions rejection, nor should they be forced to, and so sometimes we "lose" people we  never could have had. 

So when students come on an official visit this late in the season, I presume they have been admitted.  Is that a fair assumption or not?  The all knowing Bob will know :)  And then the next question is, did Boley, Turner, and Diggins take a late official visits to Stanford and visit with their prospective future classmates, the way Dodson did?  I don't remember that--but I'm sure Bob will remember one way or the other....  Just trying to improve the reading of the tea leaves :)

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-13-2016

Don't believe we lost Turner.
Boley committed as a Jr to ND so didn't apply but seemed like a great student.
We lost 2 last year who were admitted
Diggins was admitted.
We don't normally have official visitors that aren't admitted and true at this late date.
Officials can now be after April 1 of their Jr year and to my knowledge we have never had one before say August. 

Per a source Dodson's visit to ND isn't this weekend.

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - bballrbmb - 10-13-2016

Hi All,

Both Jerome and Dodson played on their respective U17 teams at the 2016 FIBA worlds - all games still available at this link:

http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016

Jerome - 24mins per game / 39% FG / 4.5 rebs / 10 ppgm
Dodson - 29mins per game / 39% FG / 5+ rebs / 7 ppgm

FIBA worlds is a better read on players given the competition is significantly better than FIBA Americas (both skill and size).  Very similar stat line for both players.  US finished 3rd and Canada finished 7th.


Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-13-2016

Welcome to the Cardboard.  Thanks for the info on Jerome and Canada.  Don't be a stranger

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - TheFarm07 - 10-13-2016

(10-13-2016, 07:20 AM)BobK link Wrote:Don't believe we lost Turner.
Boley committed as a Jr to ND so didn't apply but seemed like a great student.
We lost 2 last year who were admitted
Diggins was admitted.
We don't normally have official visitors that aren't admitted and true at this late date.
Officials can now be after April 1 of their Jr year and to my knowledge we have never had one before say August. 

Per a source Dodson's visit to ND isn't this weekend.

Thanks for the info about past recruits and Dodson!

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - bballrbmb - 10-13-2016

(10-13-2016, 09:28 AM)BobK link Wrote:Welcome to the Cardboard.  Thanks for the info on Jerome and Canada.  Don't be a stranger

Thanks!  A couple of tidbits on Brewer and Jerome for background.  Their club teams are part of the Junior U19 Elite League (JUEL) in Ontario.  Brewer played 3 years in JUEL and Jerome will play her 3rd this year.  Jerome also played JUEL Prep.  Why is this important for recruiting?  JUEL plays full FIBA rules:

- Four 10 minute quarters
- 24 second shot clock (15 on out of bounds)
- FIBA 3 point line
- Full FIBA sized courts

Until 2 years ago, NCAA recruiters were not allowed to view JUEL games or Canadian National Championship games.  The only way to see Canadian players was if their club teams travelled to AAU tournaments.  This limited their exposure.

Both are also part of the Canadian National Team Targeted Athlete Strategy (TAS).  TAS athletes are put through an annual program focused on offensive/defensive strategies, fitness/nutrition (including strength training), skill development and annual Personal Improvement Plans.  Brewer was part of TAS for 3 years and Jerome is still in the program.

Essentially, the combination of JUEL and TAS preps the athletes for both international competition and university level basketball.

Kia Nurse is a product of JUEL and TAS as well.



Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - SControl - 10-13-2016

(10-13-2016, 07:20 AM)BobK link Wrote:Don't believe we lost Turner.
Boley committed as a Jr to ND so didn't apply but seemed like a great student.
We lost 2 last year who were admitted
Diggins was admitted.
We don't normally have official visitors that aren't admitted and true at this late date.
Officials can now be after April 1 of their Jr year and to my knowledge we have never had one before say August. 

Per a source Dodson's visit to ND isn't this weekend.

Remind me again who the two were? I believe one was the guard that ended up at OSU. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also I recall reading a few years ago that the offer to commit ratio was at 90%+ for Tara. Even with the tough admissions standards, we've had our share of great talent (Wiggins, Appel, Ogwumike sisters) but the "program changers" haven't been as frequent (Stewart, Griner, Deshields/Russel, Baylor's Cox even).

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-13-2016

Pivec was one.  She's at Oregon State.  When she choose Oregon State over Stanford I posted here, darn open Board  ???, that I guess not accepted.,  She contacted me thru twitter and said yes accepted  but she loves my posts.  One out of two for me.    :D ;D :P

I'm not going to say the other.  Maybe I'll post how she does her first game. 

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - Jskass - 10-13-2016

think i now remember a player who chose NC State (wrong S symbol) over Stanford?

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - Mike - 10-13-2016

I know this is a 2017 thread, but I thought I'd sneak in a 2018 recruit story that just appeared anyway:

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/17771027/daughter-harlem-globetrotter-mckenzie-forbes-brings-flash-fire-basketball-court

She's interested in Stanford, but I know from Bob's past reminders, that that doesn't mean Stanford is interested in (offered) her.

Another (possibly disqualifying) note: Articles usually mention outstanding GPAs or interest in academics when it exists. That is absent here, but it doesn't rule out the possibility.


Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-13-2016

Jsk. you are correct.

Hey now Dodson at ND this weekend.  Of course she is there for Stanford football. 😎🏈

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - CompSci87 - 10-13-2016

(10-09-2016, 06:48 PM)BobK link Wrote:Estella Moschkau commits to Stanford.  We are on a roll

Changed to the correct spelling

Moschkau story: http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/women/prep-girls-basketball-edgewood-s-estella-moschkau-says-choosing-stanford/article_4ce3741b-3d8c-5139-9fbb-ee15d37eb925.amp.html

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - CompSci87 - 10-13-2016

(10-13-2016, 06:09 PM)Mike link Wrote:I know this is a 2017 thread, but I thought I'd sneak in a 2018 recruit story that just appeared anyway:

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/17771027/daughter-harlem-globetrotter-mckenzie-forbes-brings-flash-fire-basketball-court

She's interested in Stanford, but I know from Bob's past reminders, that that doesn't mean Stanford is interested in (offered) her.

Another (possibly disqualifying) note: Articles usually mention outstanding GPAs or interest in academics when it exists. That is absent here, but it doesn't rule out the possibility.

Forbes is "not far behind" a 4.0 average: https://sacbee.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/high-school/joe-davidson/article56942893.html

http://www.folsomtelegraph.com/article/7/15/16/forbes-making-name-herself

http://www.folsomtelegraph.com/article/12/31/14/forbes-focused-turning-folsom-winner

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?93242-23-c-o-2018-McKenzie-Forbes-6-0-quot-W-(Folsom-CA)-visiting




Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - JasonJT - 10-13-2016

I was told Konig also got accepted.

Chris Hansen reported that Lexie and Lacie Hull are visiting Stanford this weekend?  They are twins from Washington.  Lexie is the more highly rated recruit (#17 ESPN, #34 PN).  Lacie is more of a mid-major/low BCS type of a player.  Likely a "package" deal.

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-13-2016

Yes Jason. Koenig is at North Carolina State

If we get Dodson we will have 3 openings for 2018

McPhee and twin didn't get a package deal.  Not making a point just sayin

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - Jskass - 10-13-2016

Sounds like maybe the twins should check out Louisville if they want to stay together (or Ohio State, and maybe their father gets a job too)?

Re: WBB: 2017 recruiting - BobK - 10-14-2016

Or mom.  :)

Why not Washington or Utah ?
:)