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Re: Class of 2017 - AthleticsDynasty - 02-03-2017
Leach had a really good class. The RB they got, Caleb Perry scares me
Re: Class of 2017 - CTcard - 02-03-2017
(02-03-2017, 12:02 PM)AthleticsDynasty link Wrote:Leach had a really good class. The RB they got, Caleb Perry scares me
Interested to know what are Perry's particular set of skills.
The 247 composite ranks WSU's class #44 on 27 recruits.
That's #9 in the Pac 12.
One four star, 22 three stars.
The RB Perry is Scout's 102 ranked RB, 247's #20 all purpose back (#914 overall).
Previous classes, by 247 composite were:
2016 57th  11th in conf  originally 29 signing - 25 enrollees
2015 41st   8th in conf  originally 26 signing - 23 enrollees
2014 55th   9th in conf  originally 24 signing - 22? enrollees
2013 54th  11th in conf  originally 29 or 30 signing - ? enrollees
On balance it's probably toward the better side of WSU's classes, though this is clearly a program that needs to win games on something other than recruiting site rankings.
Re: Class of 2017 - AthleticsDynasty - 02-03-2017
The RB Perry has sprinter speed 10.7 in the 100 but looks like real football player not just a track star in pads on tape. Leach's RBs at WSU and Texas Tech have always been quick shifty guys, this guy is quick and shifty too but also has legit burner speed.
Re: Class of 2017 - JohnR34231 - 02-04-2017
(02-03-2017, 02:29 PM)AthleticsDynasty link Wrote:The RB Perry has sprinter speed 10.7 in the 100 but looks like real football player not just a track star in pads on tape. Leach's RBs at WSU and Texas Tech have always been quick shifty guys, this guy is quick and shifty too but also has legit burner speed.
Since he is from Seattle, it would be interesting to know why Washington didn't offer him, especially if he is that good. They certainly had room for a running back after we stole Wedington from them.
Re: Class of 2017 - Big T - 02-04-2017
Here are some scholarship stats you guys may find interesting. First some context: I'm a lifelong Stanford fan in a family of ND fans. We love college football and will argue about everything, including recruiting rankings. Here is some info I compiled as a part of an email I sent to them.
A top recruiting class every year is a necessary, yet insufficient factor to winning a national championship. Couching counts! However, for Stanford, and to some extent Notre Dame, attempting to compete with Alabama or Ohio State for a top 3 class every is an impossibility. The numbers simply do not add up. Heres why:
Each team has 85 scholarships available each year. By averaging the amount of kids each year who sign on to Stanford, Alabama, Ohio State, and Notre Dame over the past decade I have calculated the number of years the average scholarship at each school is worth. (Ive attached the excel chart for those interested).
Team    Average # of Commits this Decade   Scholarship Value in Years
Stanford     19.9                          4.27
Alabama     26.7                          3.18
Ohio State     26.1                          3.25
Notre Dame 24.2 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 3.51
For a Division 1 athlete it probably takes about 3.5 years to graduate since they are on campus year-round. These figures in the table should be very alarming. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban offer scholarships to students who on average are not going to graduate. Conversely, Stanford assumes not only that their athletes are graduating, but that they are going to attend grad school on their football scholarship.
If you are a Stanford fan, and on some level an Irish fan you cannot expect to compete on a rankings system based partly on numbers on a yearly basis. Rather, look to average ranking per recruit. Stanford has been closing the gap on the other three schools listed for a few years. This year, they finished fourth in the nation and were right there with Alabama. Stanford eviscerated Notre Dame the ranking per recruit category this year. Stanford needs to continue this trend to win a national championship. They cannot worry about overall rankings because they players they have will be there longer.
Re: Class of 2017 - CowboyIndian - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 05:18 PM)Big T link Wrote:Couching counts!
Check!
Re: Class of 2017 - CornFed - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 05:28 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:[quote author=Big T link=topic=11701.msg188163#msg188163 date=1486253886]
Couching counts!
Check!
[/quote]
In my personal view couching is the highest priority!!!!
Re: Class of 2017 - Langdude - 02-05-2017
(02-04-2017, 05:50 PM)CornFed link Wrote:[quote author=CowboyIndian link=topic=11701.msg188166#msg188166 date=1486254527]
[quote author=Big T link=topic=11701.msg188163#msg188163 date=1486253886]
Couching counts!
Check!
[/quote]
In my personal view couching is the highest priority!!!!
[/quote]
That made me laugh out loud as I was reading it ... couching.
-m.
Re: Class of 2017 - CompSci87 - 02-05-2017
(02-05-2017, 12:43 AM)Langdude link Wrote:[quote author=CornFed link=topic=11701.msg188168#msg188168 date=1486255838]
[quote author=CowboyIndian link=topic=11701.msg188166#msg188166 date=1486254527]
[quote author=Big T link=topic=11701.msg188163#msg188163 date=1486253886]
Couching counts!
Check!
[/quote]
In my personal view couching is the highest priority!!!!
[/quote]
That made me laugh out loud as I was reading it ... couching.
-m.
[/quote]
Couching our messages in the correct terms surely is important.
Big T: Don't be offended; typo jokes are a thing here. Everyone gets hit with one from time to time.
Re: Class of 2017 - CornFed - 02-05-2017
(02-05-2017, 02:47 AM)CompSci87 link Wrote:[quote author=Langdude link=topic=11701.msg188177#msg188177 date=1486280630]
[quote author=CornFed link=topic=11701.msg188168#msg188168 date=1486255838]
[quote author=CowboyIndian link=topic=11701.msg188166#msg188166 date=1486254527]
[quote author=Big T link=topic=11701.msg188163#msg188163 date=1486253886]
Couching counts!
Check!
[/quote]
In my personal view couching is the highest priority!!!!
[/quote]
That made me laugh out loud as I was reading it ... couching.
-m.
[/quote]
Couching our messages in the correct terms surely is important.
Big T: Don't be offended; typo jokes are a thing here. Everyone gets hit with one from time to time.
[/quote]
To be honest, I think some folks make typos intentionally just to see what CowboyIndian can come up with! :P
Re: Class of 2017 - BostonCard - 02-05-2017
I'm couching at the moment. #couchingcounts
Re: Class of 2017 - Stymie - 02-05-2017
Je suis un Coach Potato.
Re: Class of 2017 - BostonCard - 02-05-2017
We're all couch potatoes today.
BC
Re: Class of 2017 - Papa John - 02-10-2017
I just noticed the 247sports.com lists decommits per school, and Stanford had zero in the just-completed recruiting cycle!
That seemed remarkable to me, so I dug a bit deeper. Here the decommits for our Pac-12 brethren:
ASU: 4
UA: 11
Cal: 7
CU: 2
UO: 7
OSU: 9
UCLA: 10
USC: 11
Utah: 4
UW: 3
WSU: 11
The average number of decommits for these 11 schools is just over 7, and only Cal and UO had the excuse of head coaching change.
Stanford's results continue to impress when I looked at our nonconference opponents' decommitments from last year:
KSU: 2
ND: 6
Rice: 2
UNC: 4
Just another data point for the uniqueness of Stanford's 2017 class.
Re: Class of 2017 - terry - 02-10-2017
(02-01-2017, 04:38 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=terry link=topic=11701.msg187874#msg187874 date=1485989905]
As much as I'd like to take the credit, I think "Door #1" might have come from Chad Walker when he was covering recruiting long ago on the old Bootleg.
I quite distinctly remember reading an explanation involving a story about Bob Barker and the Price is Right - where you're watching and deep down you just don't want to know what he is offering from behind door #1.
I guess it's just the kind of colourful and amusing story I expect from you, Terry.
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I think I know why you attributed the term "Door #1" to me.
Years ago, I put together a Stanford football glossary, explaining words and phrases that often were used on the Bootleg. One of the terms in my glossary was "Door #1," and I did refer to Monty Hall on "Let's Make a Deal." That probably is the story you had in mind. I wrote the glossary around 2005 and updated it a couple times. Here's a link to the 2012 edition --
http://www.scout.com/college/stanford/story/1213175-the-bootleg-primer-2012-update
So, although I believe Chad Walker coined the term "Door #1," I may have had a role in popularizing it.
[By the way, when I wrote the glossary, the links in the text all worked, but the links appear to have been lost when the Bootleg's software was updated. Also, the Bootleg's management made some unapproved edits to my glossary, so I blame them for the clunky parts! :-) ]
Re: Class of 2017 - JJJ - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 03:58 PM)terry link Wrote:[quote author=CTcard link=topic=11701.msg187883#msg187883 date=1485992289]
[quote author=terry link=topic=11701.msg187874#msg187874 date=1485989905]
As much as I'd like to take the credit, I think "Door #1" might have come from Chad Walker when he was covering recruiting long ago on the old Bootleg.
I quite distinctly remember reading an explanation involving a story about Bob Barker and the Price is Right - where you're watching and deep down you just don't want to know what he is offering from behind door #1.
I guess it's just the kind of colourful and amusing story I expect from you, Terry.
[/quote]
I think I know why you attributed the term "Door #1" to me.
Years ago, I put together a Stanford football glossary, explaining words and phrases that often were used on the Bootleg. One of the terms in my glossary was "Door #1," and I did refer to Monty Hall on "Let's Make a Deal." That probably is the story you had in mind. I wrote the glossary around 2005 and updated it a couple times. Here's a link to the 2012 edition --
http://www.scout.com/college/stanford/story/1213175-the-bootleg-primer-2012-update
So, although I believe Chad Walker coined the term "Door #1," I may have had a role in popularizing it.
[By the way, when I wrote the glossary, the links in the text all worked, but the links appear to have been lost when the Bootleg's software was updated. Also, the Bootleg's management made some unapproved edits to my glossary, so I blame them for the clunky parts! :-) ]
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I'd never seen this before and am still only at about the letter "E" but I wanted to thank you for this fountain of knowledge as I rewatch the Sun Bowl. I bookmarked the page, for good measure. 8)
Re: Class of 2017 - BigEasyCard - 02-11-2017
Here's a feel good article about Dalyn Wade-Perry's journey to Stanford:
http://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2017/02/11/from-englewood-to-stanford-for-dalyn-wade-perry/97776734/
To have an opportunity to go to Pope John and now Stanford to better my life you cant imagine how appreciative I am, Wade-Perry said. Its unbelievable.
Geaux Cardinal!
Re: Class of 2017 - Bruce Wang - 02-11-2017
(02-10-2017, 03:58 PM)terry link Wrote:I wrote the glossary around 2005 and updated it a couple times. Here's a link to the 2012 edition --
http://www.scout.com/college/stanford/story/1213175-the-bootleg-primer-2012-update
Terry,
Just checked it out to see if there was any pre-1990 lingo I didn't know. Thanks to the shadyside denizens here I've already picked it up over the years.
Nevertheless, your Rose Bowl reference needs updating. :D
Publius
Re: Class of 2017 - 82lsju - 02-13-2017
Path for Englewood's Wade-Perry leads from football field to Stanford
Why is a 330-pound defensive tackle with 25 scholarship offers to play big-time college football taking advanced placement macroeconomics as a senior?
Because Dalyn Wade-Perry isnt your typical 330-pound defensive tackle.
The Englewood native, who attends Pope John in Sparta, needed this course as well as advanced placement psychology in order to meet Stanfords academic requirements.
At first I was like, Damn! I thought I was just going to cruise through my senior year, Wade-Perry said with a laugh.
Stanford really made me work for it.
http://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2017/02/11/from-englewood-to-stanford-for-dalyn-wade-perry/97776734/
Re: Class of 2017 - Nan3cy - 02-13-2017
"Stanford really made me work for it" should go on a cardinal and white t-shirt at the Track House.