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Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - CrazedZooChimp - 01-06-2016

(01-05-2016, 11:54 PM)JJJ link Wrote:Clearly CrazedZooChimp already knew this (and thus posted the Rose Bowl shows that way) but I didn't really think to follow the embedding source and had no clue until a very helpful LSJUMB facebook person explained it to me (they actually respond very quickly and positively to messages!). You can subscribe to LSJUMB Graphix on YouTube (or just check it every so often) for some (not all) shows that are uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC77l42ucHdtpA56ZjpPq_XQ

I actually saw it because the LSJUMB Drum Major posted the link to the video on twitter, I had no idea Graphix posted most field show up there.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - Brannerite - 01-06-2016

Since we aren’t privy to what’s going on behind the scenes at the Alumni Association, it’s not clear whether their tweet was the result of a lack of institutional control or simply failure to monitor.  Have they self-imposed any sanctions?  In any case, they went too far.  We tend to keep them on a long leash, but definitely need to tighten it from here on out.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - FarmDad.01 - 01-06-2016

Back to the scandalized Hawkeye Nation: What's the difference between Iowa and yogurt? Yogurt's got a little culture.

well if we're going to start telling Iowa jokes - oldalum - 01-06-2016

I have to relate the one my friend--who is a native Iowan and graduated from Iowa--used to tell in his stand-up act: Iowa is actually an old Indian word that means "Land of White Bread and Jello."

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - ColoradoTree - 01-06-2016

As a native Minnesotan, I've got a million of 'em, given the two states' rivalry with one another.  As most of those jokes are rather unkind, and we currently stand accused of being an unkind school/band/team/whatever, I will refrain from offering them here, so as to avoid further offense to the more sensitive members of the Hawkeye Nation. 

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - FarmDad.01 - 01-06-2016

ColoradoTree, you are such a tease...

Here's a gratuitous Nebraska joke: What does that initial on a Cornhusker helmet stand for?

Knowledge.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - FarmBoy - 01-06-2016

Quote:Iowa is actually an old Indian word that means "Land of White Bread and Jello."

Hmm, sounds like a Utah joke to me. Does anyone consume more jello per capita than the Mormons?

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - ColoradoTree - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:It seems to me that an awful lot of the comments here fail to acknowledge an important and seemingly obvious point: The Band is an undergraduate institution and reflects undergraduate sensibilities. There is no reason it should appeal to the sense of humor of a -- to pick a totally random demographic -- 103-year-old Georgia Tech graduate.

When I was an undergrad, I thought the Band was uproariously funny. Forty years later, less so, partly due to the increasing administration/AD censorship, partly due to the fact that my sense of humor isn't quite so rip-snorting as it used to be. If I were to attend a Roble party next week, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care for the music, either. (And for the same reason, the point that the LSJUMB has been doing the same stuff for 60 years and it's gotten stale is also way off the mark. It's not stale to Stanford students, who haven't been hearing it for six decades.)

The bottom line is that at Stanford sporting events I attend, the arrival of the Band invariably injects a palpable note of excitement, and that goes double at events away from the Unversity where the general environment is not striking sparks on its own. I don't think the crowd at the Santa Monica pep rally would have lasted 10 minutes without the LSJUMB and Dollies, if indeed it would have ever assembled in the first place.

So Iowans didn't like the Band? Tough. It wasn't playing for them. Twenty-five years from now, when they make the Rose Bowl again, they'll know to go to the bathroom during halftime.

This.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - CrazedZooChimp - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 03:09 AM)Brannerite link Wrote:Since we aren’t privy to what’s going on behind the scenes at the Alumni Association, it’s not clear whether their tweet was the result of a lack of institutional control or simply failure to monitor.  Have they self-imposed any sanctions?  In any case, they went too far.  We tend to keep them on a long leash, but definitely need to tighten it from here on out.

SOMEONE PLEASE BRING BACK THE UPVOTE FEATURE!

I was tempted to ask the SAA twitter after the apology if someone got fired...

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - Treebound - 01-06-2016

This Garvin +2!
I would make one edit:  It's not stale to Stanford "undergraduate" students!

For those of us that spent our formative undergrad years on The Farm, it is/was part of our culture.  We were either in the LSJUMB or had friends in the band.  We get it or at least did at the time.  It's what we expect and that edgy creativity is part of what makes Stanford unique. 

Do they misstep on occasion?  Sure.  Don't we all, especially as undergrads.  I went to the bathroom during Iowa's band performance.  I'm guessing it was a bunch of kids playing okay music and marching in basic formations.  You can see that from UCB, USC or most other boring bands.  It's fine, but not that entertaining for me.    I did notice during pregame that Iowa's band had a number of very large (300lb+) participants playing that could double as O-linemen.  Not a stereotype, just an observation.  They likely would have squashed our band in a touch football contest!

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - jacketree - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:It seems to me that an awful lot of the comments here fail to acknowledge an important and seemingly obvious point: The Band is an undergraduate institution and reflects undergraduate sensibilities. There is no reason it should appeal to the sense of humor of a -- to pick a totally random demographic -- 103-year-old Georgia Tech graduate.

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That's a fair cop.




Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - FarmBoy - 01-06-2016

Well said garvin.

And to earlier comments, yes, I know the scatter band has much longer roots than the past 20 years (I was in the band and know [some of] the history), I just couldn't say with first hand evidence whether the shows were qualitatively the same as they have been the past 20 years.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - ceece - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:It seems to me that an awful lot of the comments here fail to acknowledge an important and seemingly obvious point: The Band is an undergraduate institution and reflects undergraduate sensibilities. There is no reason it should appeal to the sense of humor of a -- to pick a totally random demographic -- 103-year-old Georgia Tech graduate.

When I was an undergrad, I thought the Band was uproariously funny. Forty years later, less so, partly due to the increasing administration/AD censorship, partly due to the fact that my sense of humor isn't quite so rip-snorting as it used to be. If I were to attend a Roble party next week, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care for the music, either. (And for the same reason, the point that the LSJUMB has been doing the same stuff for 60 years and it's gotten stale is also way off the mark. It's not stale to Stanford students, who haven't been hearing it for six decades.)

The bottom line is that at Stanford sporting events I attend, the arrival of the Band invariably injects a palpable note of excitement, and that goes double at events away from the Unversity where the general environment is not striking sparks on its own. I don't think the crowd at the Santa Monica pep rally would have lasted 10 minutes without the LSJUMB and Dollies, if indeed it would have ever assembled in the first place.

So Iowans didn't like the Band? Tough. It wasn't playing for them. Twenty-five years from now, when they make the Rose Bowl again, they'll know to go to the bathroom during halftime.

absolutely this. Thank you Garvin.

If LSJUMB had made Iowa's square formations and played 'another one bites the dust', the Iowa fans would have booed that too. And LSJUMB wouldn't have needed six (6) directors on ladders to tell them when the downbeats were.


Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - ceece - 01-06-2016

but maybe next time we should add a baton twirler with a sequined rose on her butt cheek.  ::)

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - FireSting81 - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:So Iowans didn't like the Band? Tough. It wasn't playing for them. Twenty-five years from now, when they make the Rose Bowl again, they'll know to go to the bathroom during halftime.

First off, you are clearly not familiar with how the new B1G conference alignment and CFP alignment will impact the Rose Bowl representative. I will wager good money with you that they will be back within the next decade. Ferentz has been a "NY6 bowl approximately once every five years or so" coach already. These structural changes will improve those chances.

Second, the Rose Bowl Iowa crowd was much older and more "traditional" than your typical Hawkeye fan. These are people who remember the Rose Bowl as something akin to the Super Bowl of College Football. Many of whom lived for years when it was the ONLY bowl a Big Ten team went to, and even then only the champion of the conference. They're also a part of the generation that suffered through the farm crisis of the 1980s, rather than enjoyed the high standard of living and technology and financial industry boom of eastern and central Iowa.Des Moines is the #1 city for young professionals according to Forbes, and Iowa City the "Most Liveable" for young people. Yet this younger demographic was not representative of the fan base as a whole, and who didn't care one bit about what Stanford did at halftime.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - Scooter_Stepford - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 02:23 PM)ceece link Wrote:If LSJUMB had made Iowa's square formations and played 'another one bites the dust', the Iowa fans would have booed that too.

This is true.  At the parade we were seated opposite the 'official' Iowa contingent (including the university president), which took up a very large bleacher section on Orange Grove.  The LSJUMB had to wait in front of those bleachers for a bit.  They were showered with boos.  This happened hours before any references to pink locker rooms or bands-seeking-bands. 

It wouldn't have mattered what the band did; the respectful Iowans were certain to let them hear it.

Let's do it again - they can boo the band and our coach can hoist the Rose Bowl trophy.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - JJJ - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:It seems to me that an awful lot of the comments here fail to acknowledge an important and seemingly obvious point: The Band is an undergraduate institution and reflects undergraduate sensibilities. There is no reason it should appeal to the sense of humor of a -- to pick a totally random demographic -- 103-year-old Georgia Tech graduate.

When I was an undergrad, I thought the Band was uproariously funny. Forty years later, less so, partly due to the increasing administration/AD censorship, partly due to the fact that my sense of humor isn't quite so rip-snorting as it used to be. If I were to attend a Roble party next week, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care for the music, either. (And for the same reason, the point that the LSJUMB has been doing the same stuff for 60 years and it's gotten stale is also way off the mark. It's not stale to Stanford students, who haven't been hearing it for six decades.)

The bottom line is that at Stanford sporting events I attend, the arrival of the Band invariably injects a palpable note of excitement, and that goes double at events away from the Unversity where the general environment is not striking sparks on its own. I don't think the crowd at the Santa Monica pep rally would have lasted 10 minutes without the LSJUMB and Dollies, if indeed it would have ever assembled in the first place.

So Iowans didn't like the Band? Tough. It wasn't playing for them. Twenty-five years from now, when they make the Rose Bowl again, they'll know to go to the bathroom during halftime.

Hear, hear! (I went to the bathroom when Iowa's band came on but the line was so long I missed our kids. Thankful for the various YouTube posts!)

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - CTcard - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 02:48 PM)Scooter_Stepford link Wrote:  At the parade we were seated opposite the 'official' Iowa contingent (including the university president), which took up a very large bleacher section on Orange Grove.  The LSJUMB had to wait in front of those bleachers for a bit.  They were showered with boos.

I would like to believe that you just told us that the Iowa university president was booing the LSJUMB.
Even better picture if you allow us to pretend you said he was booing, stamping his feet, and throwing garbage.

Please don't correct me.

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - thunder_chik - 01-06-2016

This same conversation about the LSJUMB happened after the 2014 Rose Bowl.  An MSU alum said it best:  "My first reaction to the Stanford band was What a dumb looking band--can't form straight lines, dressed funny, and just plain silly. I then realized that, at some level, their individuality, creativity, and unconventionality was [sic] probably threatening to me at some level.  But that's my problem, not theirs, and perhaps I can do myself a favor by focusing less on Stanford's band and more on my own issues.  So for all those people hating on Stanford's band, ask yourself:  What do they have that I don't have that I want to have but find threatening?"

Re: Iowa fans discover the Stanford Band - And are very angry and very confused - terry - 01-06-2016

(01-06-2016, 01:05 PM)garvin link Wrote:So Iowans didn't like the Band? Tough. It wasn't playing for them. Twenty-five years from now, when they make the Rose Bowl again, they'll know to go to the bathroom during halftime.

Yep, well said.

I would add one thing -- The Stanford band's reputation precedes it. It is well known that the band might do something that's in questionable taste or that pokes fun at an opponent. If that isn't what somebody wants from a marching band, then he or she doesn't have to watch.