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Re: Class of 2019 - OutsiderFan - 03-02-2018
I sure hope Austin Jones comes down to Cal and Stanford. Would be really cool to have the two Bay Area programs go down to the wire with arguably the best player in the Bay Area.Â
Can't ever remember these programs ever battling with each other for the best player in the area. Did Trent Edwards even consider Cal? Lorenzo Alexander might have been in the ballpark, but he wasn't admitted to Stanford.
Re: Class of 2019 - JohnR34231 - 03-02-2018
(03-01-2018, 06:15 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Certainly would hope Stanford isn't offering a guy like this at this time of the year, just to throw its hat in the ring. For me, offers at this time of year for the next year's class should only be made to guys who tell the coaching staff they are really serious about Stanford. Otherwise, what's the point of offering?
It seems these boxes should be checked before offering anyone at this time of year for the next year's class:
- Has requisite GPA or is close
- Planning Spring OV and/or camping Summer before Senior year
- Planning AP classes in Fall
- Willing to enroll in January
It's frankly hard for me to believe the #1 ILB recruit in the country checks all those boxes. But maybe he does, and the universe is aligning perfectly.
Another one should be
-Has a reasonable shot at getting an acceptable SAT/ACT score.
I think we have offered a couple of guys in the past with ACT's around 18. Thinking they are going to be able to get them up to 26 (or whatever we are requiring these days) is a bit delusional.
Re: Class of 2019 - SamuelMcF - 03-02-2018
(03-02-2018, 02:10 PM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=16707.msg224994#msg224994 date=1519910123]
Certainly would hope Stanford isn't offering a guy like this at this time of the year, just to throw its hat in the ring. For me, offers at this time of year for the next year's class should only be made to guys who tell the coaching staff they are really serious about Stanford. Otherwise, what's the point of offering?
It seems these boxes should be checked before offering anyone at this time of year for the next year's class:
- Has requisite GPA or is close
- Planning Spring OV and/or camping Summer before Senior year
- Planning AP classes in Fall
- Willing to enroll in January
It's frankly hard for me to believe the #1 ILB recruit in the country checks all those boxes. But maybe he does, and the universe is aligning perfectly.
Another one should be
-Has a reasonable shot at getting an acceptable SAT/ACT score.
I think we have offered a couple of guys in the past with ACT's around 18. Thinking they are going to be able to get them up to 26 (or whatever we are requiring these days) is a bit delusional.
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I'm unsure what his original score was, but didn't Ben Edwards retake the SAT/ACT 7 times before getting the needed score?
Re: Class of 2019 - Mick - 03-03-2018
(03-02-2018, 02:10 PM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=16707.msg224994#msg224994 date=1519910123]
Certainly would hope Stanford isn't offering a guy like this at this time of the year, just to throw its hat in the ring. For me, offers at this time of year for the next year's class should only be made to guys who tell the coaching staff they are really serious about Stanford. Otherwise, what's the point of offering?
It seems these boxes should be checked before offering anyone at this time of year for the next year's class:
- Has requisite GPA or is close
- Planning Spring OV and/or camping Summer before Senior year
- Planning AP classes in Fall
- Willing to enroll in January
It's frankly hard for me to believe the #1 ILB recruit in the country checks all those boxes. But maybe he does, and the universe is aligning perfectly.
Another one should be
-Has a reasonable shot at getting an acceptable SAT/ACT score.
I think we have offered a couple of guys in the past with ACT's around 18. Thinking they are going to be able to get them up to 26 (or whatever we are requiring these days) is a bit delusional.
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The father of a Director's Cup athlete told me that the coach said his child had the lowest score in the history of their program at a 28 ACT
Re: Class of 2019 - norcard - 03-04-2018
(03-02-2018, 02:10 PM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=16707.msg224994#msg224994 date=1519910123]
Certainly would hope Stanford isn't offering a guy like this at this time of the year, just to throw its hat in the ring. For me, offers at this time of year for the next year's class should only be made to guys who tell the coaching staff they are really serious about Stanford. Otherwise, what's the point of offering?
It seems these boxes should be checked before offering anyone at this time of year for the next year's class:
- Has requisite GPA or is close
- Planning Spring OV and/or camping Summer before Senior year
- Planning AP classes in Fall
- Willing to enroll in January
It's frankly hard for me to believe the #1 ILB recruit in the country checks all those boxes. But maybe he does, and the universe is aligning perfectly.
Another one should be
-Has a reasonable shot at getting an acceptable SAT/ACT score.
I think we have offered a couple of guys in the past with ACT's around 18. Thinking they are going to be able to get them up to 26 (or whatever we are requiring these days) is a bit delusional.
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We've had player admitted with a 23 ACT. Let's not exaggerate "requirements" here
Re: Class of 2019 - JohnR34231 - 03-04-2018
(03-04-2018, 02:20 AM)norcard link Wrote:[quote author=JPRI link=topic=16707.msg225107#msg225107 date=1520025028]
[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=16707.msg224994#msg224994 date=1519910123]
Certainly would hope Stanford isn't offering a guy like this at this time of the year, just to throw its hat in the ring. For me, offers at this time of year for the next year's class should only be made to guys who tell the coaching staff they are really serious about Stanford. Otherwise, what's the point of offering?
It seems these boxes should be checked before offering anyone at this time of year for the next year's class:
- Has requisite GPA or is close
- Planning Spring OV and/or camping Summer before Senior year
- Planning AP classes in Fall
- Willing to enroll in January
It's frankly hard for me to believe the #1 ILB recruit in the country checks all those boxes. But maybe he does, and the universe is aligning perfectly.
Another one should be
-Has a reasonable shot at getting an acceptable SAT/ACT score.
I think we have offered a couple of guys in the past with ACT's around 18. Thinking they are going to be able to get them up to 26 (or whatever we are requiring these days) is a bit delusional.
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We've had player admitted with a 23 ACT. Let's not exaggerate "requirements" here
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Tough to exaggerate requirements when we're not really sure just what they are. The reason I threw out 26 was I knew a kid who was being recruited to Stanford and that was the number they told him he needed to shoot for. I'm sure it varies based on the recruit's other credentials.
Re: Class of 2019 - YA_TITTLE - 03-04-2018
Harbaugh bargained with the Admissions department to get 2 of his guys in per year, regardless of other credentials. Obviously, if someone can't handle the workload Stanford isn't going to be the best fit for them anyway.
Re: Class of 2019 - SamuelMcF - 03-05-2018
New offer today:
https://twitter.com/kham316/status/970668186600443910
https://247sports.com/Player/Kyle-Hamilton-46047660
Kyle Hamilton, 3* S out of Georgia (HOLY CRAP MORE GEORGIA!) who is long at 6'3" and has a MUCH stronger offer list than his rating would suggest. Picked up Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, Auburn, Georgia, the Domers and a few more P5's in the past 2 weeks.
More LB offers please...
Re: Class of 2019 - French Rage - 03-05-2018
(03-05-2018, 12:08 PM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:New offer today:
https://twitter.com/kham316/status/970668186600443910
https://247sports.com/Player/Kyle-Hamilton-46047660
Kyle Hamilton, 3* S out of Georgia (HOLY CRAP MORE GEORGIA!) who is long at 6'3" and has a MUCH stronger offer list than his rating would suggest. Picked up Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, Auburn, Georgia, the Domers and a few more P5's in the past 2 weeks.
More LB offers please...
Also offers from Harvard, Penn, Princeton, NW, Vandy, etc., so he's big on academics too!
Re: Class of 2019 - slide - 03-05-2018
reports a 3.75 gpa and has a 30 ACT already.Â
Jr year: 60 tackles, 6 INTs and 8 PBUs. 28 catches, 507 yards and 7 TDs 1 KOR TD.Â
good looking film on Hudl as well.
Re: Class of 2019 - BostonCard - 03-06-2018
https://twitter.com/stanfordrivals/status/971121356195577856?s=21
Free piece on 2019 OL.
BC
Re: Class of 2019 - Spiny_Norman - 03-06-2018
https://247sports.com/Article/Four-star-DE-Joshua-Pakola-has-a-few-standing-out-115907987
Free article on DE Joshua Pakola from Mountain View St Francis. He loves Stanford. But U.SC just offered and his cousin is on the Trojan football team.Â
Re: Class of 2019 - OutsiderFan - 03-06-2018
Let's not all start acting like Cal fans and think because USC offers someone, it puts them in the driver's seat. A Stanford offer is far more valuable than a USC offer, both in terms of scarcity, and actual economic value.
Pakola should be considered the biggest uncommitted Stanford lock in the 2019 cycle.
Re: Class of 2019 - norcard - 03-08-2018
(03-06-2018, 07:42 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Let's not all start acting like ×ÉÉ fans and think because U$C offers someone, it puts them in the driver's seat. A Stanford offer is far more valuable than a U$C offer, both in terms of scarcity, and actual economic value.
Pakola should be considered the biggest uncommitted Stanford lock in the 2019 cycle.
Unfortunately, not every recruit sees it that way.
Re: Class of 2019 - Mick - 03-09-2018
(03-08-2018, 11:38 PM)norcard link Wrote:[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=16707.msg225457#msg225457 date=1520390575]
Let's not all start acting like ×ÉÉ fans and think because U$C offers someone, it puts them in the driver's seat. A Stanford offer is far more valuable than a U$C offer, both in terms of scarcity, and actual economic value.
Pakola should be considered the biggest uncommitted Stanford lock in the 2019 cycle.
Unfortunately, not every recruit sees it that way.
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If you're talking to a 17 year old about the future, it's critical to remember that their frame of reference is not the same as that of an adult, who has a lifetime of experience and bad decisions behind them.
When I was in high school, my father repeatedly told me it was important to go to college. He hadn't graduated from a four year college and he was doing quite well financially. I wanted to go to college on my own, but he never articulated why it was important to go. A quarter century later, when my older son started to speak admiringly of people who had done well but hadn't completed college, I put it in a way that a 14 year old could understand. We went for a drive and had the following conversation:
"See that mansion? If you get A's and go to a great college, that's where you'll live. If you get B's, you'll live in our house. If you get C's or worse, that's the bridge you'll live under. See that BMW you've been admiring? Get A's and it's yours. Get B's, and you get the minivan. Get C's or worse, hope you enjoy the skateboard. If you get A's, that's the woman you'll marry, etc..."
So when dealing with Stanford vs. U$C recruits, show them this:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-state/bachelors/california
Or use the national scale which shows Stanford at #10 and U$C at #57:
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors?page=101
Stanford, #3 in CA colleges for pay. C.al, #7. U$C, #10. Yes, I know it's bogus. Yes, I know it's statistically shaky. But I think it's directionally correct, and any teenager can understand it. You can even explain to the football recruits that it's inaccurate and the disparity is actually greater...
Re: Class of 2019 - JohnR34231 - 03-09-2018
It would seem to me that some, if not most of the top recruits are primarily interested in a place where they can get early enrollment, early playing time, win lots of games, and have an quick exit to the NFL.
An elite education isn't particularly high on their priority list.
Re: Class of 2019 - Mick - 03-09-2018
(03-09-2018, 07:52 AM)JPRI link Wrote:It would seem to me that some, if not most of the top recruits are primarily interested in a place where they can get early enrollment, early playing time, win lots of games, and have an quick exit to the NFL.
An elite education isn't particularly high on their priority list.
I think if they're talking to us at all, it's probably somewhere on their priority list. And even if it isn't, future compensation is probably somewhere near the top of the list.
Re: Class of 2019 - JohnR34231 - 03-09-2018
(03-09-2018, 08:12 AM)Mick link Wrote:[quote author=JPRI link=topic=16707.msg225597#msg225597 date=1520607131]
It would seem to me that some, if not most of the top recruits are primarily interested in a place where they can get early enrollment, early playing time, win lots of games, and have an quick exit to the NFL.
An elite education isn't particularly high on their priority list.
I think if they're talking to us at all, it's probably somewhere on their priority list. And even if it isn't, future compensation is probably somewhere near the top of the list.
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Do you mean future compensation in the NFL or post NFL? :)
Re: Class of 2019 - Mick - 03-09-2018
(03-09-2018, 08:42 AM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=Mick link=topic=16707.msg225601#msg225601 date=1520608375]
[quote author=JPRI link=topic=16707.msg225597#msg225597 date=1520607131]
It would seem to me that some, if not most of the top recruits are primarily interested in a place where they can get early enrollment, early playing time, win lots of games, and have an quick exit to the NFL.
An elite education isn't particularly high on their priority list.
I think if they're talking to us at all, it's probably somewhere on their priority list. And even if it isn't, future compensation is probably somewhere near the top of the list.
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Do you mean future compensation in the NFL or post NFL? :)
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Post-NFL.
Re: Class of 2019 - SamuelMcF - 03-16-2018
SIX 2019 offers today.
https://twitter.com/Nick_Cross26/status/974785871516925952
https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Cross-46041611
Nick Cross, 4* S out of Maryland. Has all of the offers and racked up brobdingnagian numbers with a national schedule. Yes please.
https://twitter.com/TajDavis_3/status/974781625857814528
https://247sports.com/Player/Taj-Davis-46042179
Taj Davis, 3* WR out of SoCal. Offers from Duke, Northwestern, and the Weenies, so an academic-minded guy for sure. Complete package at 6'2" with speed. Very very productive in HS.
https://twitter.com/aeneas_dicosmo/status/974782287228407808
https://247sports.com/Player/Aeneas-DiCosmo-46040164
Aeneas DiCosmo, 3* DE (OLB?) from NJ and next in the glorious line of incredible Stanford football player names. Leaders thought to be Michigan and BC, but has other big-time offers, including one from Clemson yesterday. Twitter indicates he's been wanting a Stanford offer bad.
https://twitter.com/KChriston_Jr/status/974751400214151173
https://247sports.com/Player/Kenan-Christon-46040548
Kenan Christon, unrated (not for long) RB out of San Diego with 5 PAC-12 offers including the Toejams (EDIT: now 6 as he got a UCLA offer literally 10 minutes ago), and Nebraska. Track guy with Love-esque speed (ran a hand-timed 10.4 100), an over 40" vertical, and a 4.0 GPA.
https://twitter.com/kane_patterson4/status/974731502071185408
https://247sports.com/Player/Kane-Patterson-46038880
Kane Patterson, 4* OLB (ILB?) and RB dual-threat from TN. Has all of the offers. Next Owen Marecic please.
https://twitter.com/jake_hornibrook/status/974743055097106432
https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Hornibrook-46041443
Jake Hornibrook, unrated (not for long) OG (listed at OT but he's 6'4") out of Pennsylvania. Solid offer list including Louisville, UNC, Wisconsin, Duke, and West Virginia. Younger brother of Alex Hornibrook, Wisconsin's starting QB.