Notre Dame Game Thread - Printable Version

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RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - NDIrish - 10-01-2018

Hey guys, I know you all are probably ready to move on past ND and get ready for Utah, but wanted to wrap it up with a few thoughts.

That was a very physical game. Hopefully Love is ok for you guys. We lost our LG for the rest of the season, MLB broke a bone in his hand (hes going to try and continue playing), RB hurt his ankle.. we took a beating.

I think part of what stanford faced was the letdown after coming off an emotional Oregon game, going on the road again. That was a tough spot to be in. I was very impressed with what i saw from ND. Book proved a lot to me, he is ready to be a starter at a high level. Dexter williams looked much improved.

In my opinion, which as i have always said, doesn't mean anything.

ND Offense/Stanford Defense
Stanfords Defense is tough, but they just got worn down by the end of the game. They gave up a lot of yards early, but the score held close, the dam just broke near the end.

ND Defense/Stanford Offense
ND's defense line was just too fast for your o line. And our depth allowed us to keep pressure on you the entire game. Even with our 2nd round of guys were in, they didn't necessarily get sacks, but it just didn't give time for your O line to rest. I think had a little time been given, there were opportunities to move the ball through the air, there was just no time.

Special Teams
Went about like i thought, great legs on the field, nothing ground breaking in the returns. Was disappointed ND's kicker missed that long one.

X Factors
ND was able to move the ball around and not stay limited to depending on one or two players. With the pressure from the defensive line, Love and your WR's were just too limited. It sounds like the crowd was good. I thought the reffing was so so. I don't know what is happening this year, but holding calls in the middle have been garbage, both for and against ND.

Coaching
For the first time in awhile, I feel like ND out coached a good team. I felt like Shaw was tentative and thought that the normal stanford grind it out way would prove to be successful. which to be fair, it was a 1 score game at the end of the third. I am sure he felt like it would finally break ND. But i was watching the stats throughout the game, and even those the score was close, the stats just weren't showing any progress. And instead of it breaking in his favor in the 4th, it broke the other way. For whatever reason, Kelly/Long can better gameplan for Book. He is obviously pretty good, but they could not find a way to use BW's strengths, so this is how ND will move forward.

Good luck the rest of the year, thanks for entertaining for me a couple weeks. I see at least 6 more wins on Stanfords schedule. The big one obviously is Washington. If you guys can win that one, winning the PAC12 should be a done deal, don't see anyone coming out of the South being able to beat you.

Thanks and good luck.

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - fullmetal - 10-05-2018

I finally saw the game (40 min recap on YT). The defense played about a B- game imo, and most of that was whiffed tackles. I can't fault the players for only rushing three. Apparently the Stanford defensive coordinator forgot that rushing three with an extremely mobile QB is a recipe for a first down, because that's pretty much what happened there. Book made a few great throws and exploited the three-man rush, Boykin was a powerful receiver, and that flow-right, throw-left uncovered TD was the story of the ND offense. Solid offense, but if Stanford tackles like I wish they would have, I think maybe ND scores 10 fewer points.

Stanford on offense: that offensive line...gives up sacks, can't make holes, and lets rushers in while zone blocking (that's an assignment thing, I think, right?). Hell, watching the backside rusher make the tackle on Love behind the LOS just hurt me inside. I don't think the OL looked fast enough or was strong enough to reach block. The line gave up pressure and penalties too. I think I saw ND DL stutter step toward the OTs and force them back, allowing the DL to read and choose a gap or a route around the OT...that's what happens when the OT is worried about speed on the edge, I guess.

KJ made some of those quick slant throws I've been looking for, and that was good...but ND caught on eventually and turned one into an INT. KJ was playing with fire a bit as there were a couple other throws that could have been INTs. He doesn't use the RB check down much, seemingly preferring to take his chances with a receiver in coverage (I'm...not a fan of those decisions).

Love can't run sideline-to-sideline without an effective OL. ND was committing borderline defensive PI several times. But as everyone could plainly see, losing the LOS on offense isn't a recipe for success.

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - NDIrish - 10-05-2018

(10-05-2018, 12:50 AM)fullmetal Wrote: I finally saw the game (40 min recap on YT). The defense played about a B- game imo, and most of that was whiffed tackles. I can't fault the players for only rushing three. Apparently the Stanford defensive coordinator forgot that rushing three with an extremely mobile QB is a recipe for a first down, because that's pretty much what happened there. Book made a few great throws and exploited the three-man rush, Boykin was a powerful receiver, and that flow-right, throw-left uncovered TD was the story of the ND offense. Solid offense, but if Stanford tackles like I wish they would have, I think maybe ND scores 10 fewer points.

Stanford on offense: that offensive line...gives up sacks, can't make holes, and lets rushers in while zone blocking (that's an assignment thing, I think, right?). Hell, watching the backside rusher make the tackle on Love behind the LOS just hurt me inside. I don't think the OL looked fast enough or was strong enough to reach block. The line gave up pressure and penalties too. I think I saw ND DL stutter step toward the OTs and force them back, allowing the DL to read and choose a gap or a route around the OT...that's what happens when the OT is worried about speed on the edge, I guess.

KJ made some of those quick slant throws I've been looking for, and that was good...but ND caught on eventually and turned one into an INT. KJ was playing with fire a bit as there were a couple other throws that could have been INTs. He doesn't use the RB check down much, seemingly preferring to take his chances with a receiver in coverage (I'm...not a fan of those decisions).

Love can't run sideline-to-sideline without an effective OL. ND was committing borderline defensive PI several times. But as everyone could plainly see, losing the LOS on offense isn't a recipe for success.

Thanks for the follow up, good luck this week!

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - Bruce Wang - 10-05-2018

Games have consequences. This alum lost a bet with a Hunchback and has to wear a green "Fighting Irish" shirt in the office today.

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - NDIrish - 10-05-2018

(10-05-2018, 06:46 AM)Publius Wrote: Games have consequences. This alum lost a bet with a Hunchback and has to wear a green "Fighting Irish" shirt in the office today.

Ha! Nice, should upload a picture of that! Still holding the edge in the Kelly era.

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - Bruce Wang - 10-05-2018

(10-05-2018, 07:43 AM)NDIrish Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 06:46 AM)Publius Wrote: Games have consequences. This alum lost a bet with a Hunchback and has to wear a green "Fighting Irish" shirt in the office today.

Ha! Nice, should upload a picture of that! Still holding the edge in the Kelly era.

I can't figure out how to upload a picture in this new version of the board software. Trust me, it's a particularly ugly bright green. The evil woven into its polyester burns my flesh.

RE: Notre Dame Game Thread - NDIrish - 10-05-2018

(10-05-2018, 08:10 AM)Publius Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 07:43 AM)NDIrish Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 06:46 AM)Publius Wrote: Games have consequences. This alum lost a bet with a Hunchback and has to wear a green "Fighting Irish" shirt in the office today.

Ha! Nice, should upload a picture of that! Still holding the edge in the Kelly era.

I can't figure out how to upload a picture in this new version of the board software. Trust me, it's a particularly ugly bright green. The evil woven into its polyester burns my flesh.

ha, it grows on you. Throw a little gold on it and you are good to go. Come on over, we can always use some more decent fans.