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Re: Week 6 in opponents - czaja - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 08:25 AM)martyup link Wrote:People, you are talking about the Kal weenies.  I want them to be down and stay down.  I want our guys to drag Oski around the football field like the goat in a game of Buzkashi.  I want to win the Axe so many times that Kal finally says "just keep it."

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Re: Week 6 in opponents - winflop - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 08:50 AM)el mono link Wrote:[quote author=martyup link=topic=13101.msg133985#msg133985 date=1444577155]
People, you are talking about the Kal weenies.  I want them to be down and stay down.  I want our guys to drag Oski around the football field like the goat in a game of Buzkashi.  I want to win the Axe so many times that Kal finally says "just keep it."

Sign me up for this 1000x.
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I want Low APR U to be good enough through the season so that the Weenies get their hopes up, only to have them dashed when our boys take them to the woodshed year after year after year.  The greatest moment in the two dozen or so Big Games I've attended remains The Revenge, when 50,000 Weenies went from absolute pandemonium to dead silence faster than a Bryce Love TD run.  It was MAJESTIC.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - needle - 10-11-2015

My best guess is that a two-loss team will win the Pac this year. Too many good-to-very-good teams, plus dangerous ones like Washington State.

In that scenario, I don't see the Pac champion getting to the playoff, but I do think that there's probably more parity across the board in college football than in years past. So, root for a lot of upsets, I guess.

Surprisingly, I think that the college football playoff this year is already very predictable: undefeated Ohio State, one-loss Bama/undefeated or one-loss LSU, undefeated Clemson/Florida State.

But who would get the fourth slot? Both Baylor and TCU have a much better chance of going undefeated than Utah, that's for sure. Even if it's a one-loss Baylor/TCU against a one-loss Pac team, I'm not sure who wins that beauty contest, especially given the Big 12's exclusion from the playoff last year.

In my just-for-fun projections for the season, 'Bama would ideally get the same scrutiny as the Pac winner and Big 12 winner, as their out-of-conference schedule of Wisconsin, Middle Tennessee, Louisiana-Monroe, and Charleston Southern is a joke. LSU's is even worse: Syracuse, Eastern Michigan and Western Kentucky, with a game against McNeese State already canceled. But that's not quite yet the world we live in...


Re: Week 6 in opponents - stupac2 - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 09:06 AM)needle link Wrote:Surprisingly, I think that the college football playoff this year is already very predictable: undefeated Ohio State, one-loss Bama/undefeated or one-loss LSU, undefeated Clemson/Florida State.

You think tOSU is going 3-0 against Michigan, MSU, and the championship game? That seems rather unlikely to me.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - 82lsju - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 09:06 AM)needle link Wrote:Surprisingly, I think that the college football playoff this year is already very predictable: undefeated Ohio State, one-loss Bama/undefeated or one-loss LSU, undefeated Clemson/Florida State.

since Alabama and LSU will play each other in the regular season and maybe in the SEC championship game one of them is likely to have at least two loses.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - gocard14 - 10-11-2015

Alabama/LSU can't play each other in the championship game, same division.  There are too many variables in play right now and too many games left to play to really predict anything, but realistically, there are 6 categories of teams that could make it.

(1) SEC team #1: Florida, LSU, or Alabama would all go if they win out.  Alabama and LSU play each other, Florida and LSU play each other, Florida plays FSU, and the winner of the SEC East plays the SEC West champ.  My guess is LSU beats Florida, then Alabama or LSU beat team in championship.

(2) Clemson vs. FSU winner

(3) Baylor vs. TCU winner if undefeated, a 1-loss baylor or TCU probably would be left out, as they may play just 1 or 2 ranked teams this year

(4) Pac 12 champ:  If this is a 1-loss Stanford, Cal, or Utah team they have a decent change of making it.  A 2-loss Pac-12 champ (very possible this year) is probably on the outside looking in.

(5) Big 10 champ. An undefeated OSU or Mich St. definitely makes it.  A 1-loss Michigan almost definitely makes it after wins over OSU and MSU.  A 1-loss OSU or MSU that wins the conference. may or may not make it depending on how everything else shakes out. I can't see a 1-loss Big 10 team that doesn't win the conference making it this year.

(6) SEC team #2.  A 1-loss LSU team that only lost to SEC champ Alabama or Florida could make it, as could a 1-loss Florida team that only lost in the championship game (after beating LSU and FSU in the regular season).

As a Pac 12 fan, I'm vehemently rooting for FSU, Clemson, Baylor, and TCU to lose, the SEC/Big 10 will sort themselves out.


Re: Week 6 in opponents - fullmetal - 10-11-2015

Yeah, I'm just rooting for everyone ahead of us to lose.  TCU, Bama, and MSU all had their moments last night, sigh.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - winflop - 10-11-2015

Remember that the Big XII has a championship game this year, so there's a higher probability that its champion will have at least one loss, maybe even two.

The way the ACC is shaping up as far and away the worst Power 5 conference, the only way the Pac-12 champ isn't in the playoff is if it has two losses.  Always a possibility, but I'm thinking the way so many perennially good teams are heading south (ASU, AZ, UCLA, U$C, UO) I think the chances of Stanford or Utah being a one loss conference champ look better and better every week.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - 82lsju - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 04:44 PM)winflop link Wrote:Remember that the Big XII has a championship game this year

no they don't

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/05/05/no-big-12-championship-game-2015-bob-bowlsby

see the composite schedule here

http://www.big12sports.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=106580&SPID=13139

Re: Week 6 in opponents - stupac2 - 10-11-2015

The Big 12 petitioned the NCAA to let them have a championship game despite only having 10 teams, and the petition was denied.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 05:57 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:The Big 12 petitioned the NCAA to let them have a championship game despite only having 10 teams, and the petition was denied.

Can they not find two schools to join?

Re: Week 6 in opponents - washingtonismoney - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 06:03 PM)ThePassionOfTheChryst link Wrote:Can they not find two schools to join?

They could easily find two schools to join. The question is whether they bring enough revenue to offset the pie being split 12 ways rather than 10.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - stupac2 - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 06:17 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:They could easily find two schools to join. The question is whether they bring enough revenue to offset the pie being split 12 ways rather than 10.

Yeah. Clearly they could invite, I dunno, SMU and Houston, but what would they add? Then again, with WVU in the conference already, maybe they should invite Boise and, I dunno, UCF? Clearly the need to get to 12 teams.

Although, really, what needs to happen is going down to 4 conferences of 16. It's probably workable but would take too much coordination and too many people in power would lose out.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - Mick - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 06:17 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:[quote author=ThePassionOfTheChryst link=topic=13101.msg134085#msg134085 date=1444611808]

Can they not find two schools to join?

They could easily find two schools to join. The question is whether they bring enough revenue to offset the pie being split 12 ways rather than 10.
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The problem is that the big five conferences have heavy attendance that smaller conference schools can't match.  SEC averaged 78k in 2014, Big Ten was next at 67k.  Big 12 was third at 58k and the Pac 12 was fourth at 53k.  The ACC brings up the rear at 50k average game attendance, but then it's a big dropoff to the American  Conference.

Probably is that the most likely schools have half the attendance.  Houston might be likely, they averaged 28,311 last year and had the highest average increase from 2013 to 2014.  SMU would be intriguing, they're at 21,528.  Marshall's at 27,461.  Tulsa drops to 20k.  What about the Mountain West conference?  Boise State, with their 33k?  Colorado State at 27K?

Re: Week 6 in opponents - washingtonismoney - 10-11-2015

Somewhere out there, a BYU fan: "What about us?"

They averaged 57k last year and frequently 60+.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - winflop - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 05:57 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:The Big 12 petitioned the NCAA to let them have a championship game despite only having 10 teams, and the petition was denied.

Oops for some reason I thought Bumbling Bob pulled that one off

Re: Week 6 in opponents - thunder_chik - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 07:21 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Somewhere out there, a BYU fan: "What about us?"

They averaged 57k last year and frequently 60+.

BYU + UDFG = 12

Re: Week 6 in opponents - stupac2 - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 08:07 PM)thunder_chik link Wrote:BYU + UDFG = 12

I think it's more likely that ND will drop down to D3 (as they're threatened to do if players are allowed to be paid) than join a conference.

Re: Week 6 in opponents - winflop - 10-11-2015

(10-11-2015, 08:20 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=thunder_chik link=topic=13101.msg134110#msg134110 date=1444619263]BYU + UDFG = 12

I think it's more likely that ND will drop down to D3 (as they're threatened to do if players are allowed to be paid) than join a conference.
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They are already halfway into the ACC not sure when that starts but IIRC they are playing 5 ACC opponents every year?

Re: Week 6 in opponents - cardcoug - 10-12-2015

(10-11-2015, 07:21 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Somewhere out there, a BYU fan: "What about us?"

They averaged 57k last year and frequently 60+.

Indeed, we've all been thinking that for a while now; even Bronco Mendenhall publicy said he wants to be in a conference and that the big12 would be a great option. On top of their solid home attendance, they attract more eyeballs for tv than anyone outside the power 5 (and many inside) and sell lots of tickets on the road, so from a financial perspective they make at least as much sense as any other available school (-ND obviously). The two reasons people usually say are holding the big12 back from extending an invite are BYU's no-play-on-Sunday rule and it's reluctance to give up broadcasting rights, since BYU sports is a big draw for BYUtv, which the church regards as extremely important.
Adding BYU and Boise seems like a great option to me, but I doubt current big 12 members would be very excited about trips to provo and boise, and I have no idea how much weight those two issues actually have.